From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 11 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:45:40 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 11 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 9 Oct 1995 let me sleep so my teeth won't grind... some Soundgarden questions Re: why did they record it? Re: Decoding Soundgarden Re: why did they record it? Re: favorite non album tracks slaves & bulldozers Big Bad Ben. Re: Big Bad Ben. slaves and bulldozers -Reply Re: favorite non album tracks Slaves and Bulldozers Re: a silent peson Re: (not) Slagging Ben (fwd) just a thought... RE: Erudite #9, 78,1 Re: Ty Cobb Re: Chris - Homophobic? --> Actually Green River Re: Australia Re: We are all homophobic??? Since when?!? Re: Punk Rock F Big Veins, again :^) Re: Once again it's on! Re: GUITARS Re: Sara Hoeck's letter Seattle Scene Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 10 Oct 1995 MAILMAN! Cornell Quote Re: Ripoff bands discovering soundgarden -- birth of a thread? Re: just a thought... RE: Erudite #9, 78,1 SG videos - in the movies Re: Seattle Scene re GirlBomb List Business - IMPORTANT! Re: EJ Fry Re: MAILMAN! Re: Ripoff bands Re: GirlBomb Re: GirlBomb Seth's concerns Foppbomb Re: Big Bad Ben. Re: Seth's concerns SG/WEB ?s Re: a silent peson Girlbomb II Isn't this list for... Worst SG track HEEEEEEY Kate Gotta love those antichrist songs! Stacy, Stacy, Stacy... Jeremy, dude...calm down.. Re: 665 --> 667 in REVERSE!!! Why I Like Soundgarden Re: your mail Re: GirlBomb Re: Seth's concerns Re: Why I Like Soundgarden Re: Isn't this list for... Sg related Sorry to bother you again but... Can't we all just get along? fave/least fave list Re: Ripoff bands are a figment of your imagination. Re: Gotta love those antichrist songs! Re: Green River etc... RE: Erudite #9, 78,1 < Totally useless, but entertaining reply Re: Foppbomb hi there.. Re: Gotta love those antichrist songs! Re: Bush question Re: discovering soundgarden -- birth of a thread? Re: GirlBomb ------------------------------------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 9 Oct 1995 >> >i think that green river was members of mudhoney and motheerlovebone. >jeff ament and stone gossard were in it and i don't remember who from >mudhoney right now. of course it is like 3 in the morning for me. > >anyway, there is no one from soundgarden on the album...mark arm >(vocals) and steve turner (lead gtr) from mudhoney are on it, as well as >stone gossard (rhythm gtr) and jeff ament (bass) from pearl jam...i can't >remember who the drummer is, but i thought that he went on to play for >another seattle band...i dunno... > The most easily obtainable dose of Green River (in the U.S., I should say) is on the _Deep_Six_ compilation, released (or re-released?) by A&M in '94. The disc includes two songs by GR and three by SG -- the liner notes claim these are both bands' first released material (ca. 1985). The liner notes list as members, Mark Arm (Mudhoney vocals), Stone Gossard (Mother Love Bone/PJ), Jeff Ament (MLB/PJ), Bruce Fairweathwer (MLB guitar), and Alex Vincent (must be the drums, money). ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: let me sleep so my teeth won't grind... On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, LITTLE JOE wrote: > Ouch.....Slaves and Bulldozers the worst song!!! That's the song that > first made me get into Soundgarden, listening to it live off SOMMS. > > BTW..... Little Joe is a great song, especially live. Poor blind dog > never could appreciate their older stuff. yeah, that live cut of slaves and bulldozers from somms is probably the best one I have ever heard. matt does the opening riff of the song on his drum kit! how many drummers out there could do that stuff with their own bands? and as for being the worst song, I'm afraid that if you think that, then you probably wouldn't like much smashing pumpkins music (sorry, I can't remember who it was). slaves and bulldozers is lyrically a very cool song, and the way it quietens down in the middle, only to roar off again at the end is way cool.probably one of their top 20 songs. but I guess we all have different tastes. as for little joe, songs in concert are a different matter. little joe certainly does have something when it's played live, but the original recorded version leaves a lot to be desired. chris sounds like he's on a pogo stick in the verses :) but I think that gil has shown me the way, and I'll have to change my vote for worst song to motorcycle loop. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: some Soundgarden questions From: seth Okay, this was sent to me from the Web page, and I can't really answer all of these questions thoroughly. If anyone can help me out, I'd be most appreciative (this is a good situation for all of us, since this guy is willing to transcribe an article for our page if I can answer his questions): - ------- Forwarded Message To: saperl@MIT.EDU Subject: SG/WEB- Questions for Seth Hi -- Checked out your page for the first time last week and I'm very impressed. I'm trying to compile a timeline-style history of the band for my fanzine (e.p. magazine) and your page has been a big help. I've read several of the articles and it's filled in a lot of the gaps. But I still have a few questions. Maybe you could help? First, a question provoked by your page. Who were the Shemps. I've never heard of them. Was Chris Cornell the drummer? If not, do you know the names of any of the bands Chris drummed with before Soundgarden? Second, is it true that SG's first gig was at a club called the Top of the Court in Seattle? Third, who was the original fourth member of Soundgarden and when did Matt join on drums? Fourth, when and why did Hiro really leave the band? This seems to be Soundgarden's greatest mystery! Fifth, what the hell is wrong with Jason Everman? Why did he get the sack from Nirvana and Soundgarden!? Sixth, finally, is the new album being recorded without a producer? Any ideas on possible song or album titles? Hope you can help me with my questions. In return I can transcribe for you an interview from the British music paper Sounds from 1989 (with the band talking about tracks from Ultramega OK and Louder than Love. Look forward to hearing from you. Jon. - ------- End of Forwarded Message thanks, seth ------------------------------ From: Alex Lyberopoulos Subject: Re: why did they record it? My least favourite is I awake, although the lyrics are not from the band. I don't like the vocals or lyrics and music does nothing for me. Having said this it isn't terrible by most standards. Plus there are a few songs on UltramegaOK that i don't like that much:Circle of Power, 665 667(are they songs?), All your lies. On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, blind dog wrote: > > quite simply, I'd like to know what soundgarden song is least > liked by everyone on the list. we talk about the stuff we like, but what > about the soundgarden music we *don't* like? personally, mine is little > joe. I know there is a guy somewhere on this list who took that as his > name, but I'm afraid that that song is my least favourite. I don't > really like how chris sings it, and there really isn't much to it. so > how about the rest of you? (sorry gil:) > > also, if there are 300 people on this list, then you wouldn't > know it by the number of postings. sure, we generate a lot of mail here, > but I'm wondering what all those silent people out there have to say. > come on guys, time to stop mooching :) say something about the band we > all love. otherwise things will become very stagnant, and sooner or > later it will really turn out to be a turd of a list. nothing to say > means nothing to do, in the world of mailing lists, and if the 'oldies' > of the list start saying the same stuff, then what will become of > us? let's find something to discuss for about three months, and then we > can talk about the new album, eh? > > btw, did anyone get a copy of the ireland sunstroke festival on > tape? specifically the soundgarden portion? please mail me if you have > it. > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson) Subject: Re: Decoding Soundgarden Let's get this lyric transcription completion/correction correction thread rolling! In Flower, I believe the line is "eyes of opal green" not "eyes of purple green." That's 'opal' as in 'translucent' as opposed to 'purple' as in...purple. Well, it's a start, anyway. SAmmmmmmmmmmmmmmsonomy ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: why did they record it? On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Alex Lyberopoulos wrote: > My least favourite is I awake, although the lyrics are not from the band. > on UltramegaOK that i don't like that much:Circle of Power, 665 667(are > they songs?), All your lies. really, you don't like all your lies? that song is pretty good. the riff really bounces along. and when they perform it live, the song goes into another gear. especially the chorus 'all your fears are lies'. its one of the best songs off the crown of thorns bootleg. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Alex Lyberopoulos Subject: Re: favorite non album tracks What an easy question. I love "Cold Bitch" a B side on a few singles. Specially when it slows down for a short time then starts again. "But in you heart i freeze" On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > Well, if you haven't guessed yet, i'd like to know what everyone's > favorite non album sg song is. I guess its pretty easy to figure out > what mine is huh? Is it the same thing for you, blind dog? Are there > any other names that i am forgetting? -j > > *************************************************************************** > "The words you say -"The Day i Tried to Live" > never seem to live up to by > the ones inside your head" Soundgarden > **************************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: slaves & bulldozers speaking of slaves and bulldozers, does anyone have any thoughts on what the song is actually about? it isn't terribly apparent to me, at least not from memory. ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Big Bad Ben. This has probably already been answered before, but was Ben in any remotely well-known bands before he hooked up with with SG? Also, did we ever answer what the tour video with the kid on the bicycle was about? Do you guys like Tad? I saw them open for SG in the summer of '94 and I really couldn't make a judgement. They turned up so loud that all I could hear was guitar noise. Any thoughts on who will open the shows on the tour for the next album? Maybe Silverchair? Let's hope not. Or will SG do like Led Zeppelin and tour alone with no supporting acts? Though it would never happen, I'd like to see SG and AIC tour on the same bill. What do you think? BDM "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Big Bad Ben. >Any thoughts on who will open the shows on the tour >for the next album? Maybe Silverchair? Let's hope not. Or will SG do like >Led Zeppelin and tour alone with no supporting acts? Though it would >never happen, I'd like to see SG and AIC tour on the same bill. What do >you think? > >BDM SG and AIC - I'd love to see that, but who would be the main bill (seriously, I'm sure there's a lot of AIC fans out there who would barrack for the other side). Although I've never seen it, Silverchair are supposed to be OK live - but I'll leave that alone. Who has been involved as producer of Soundgarden albums? And what else has (s)he produced? It can be interesting to note the links between bands eg. Bruce Fairburn has produced Aerosmith, AC/DC and Nirvana (I think?)... All opinions welcome! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: slaves and bulldozers -Reply Dear Jen, What on earth is Noodling? Dan ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: favorite non album tracks > What an easy question. I love "Cold Bitch" a B side on a few singles. > Specially when it slows down for a short time then starts again. > "But in you heart i freeze" > > I totally agree, Cold Bitch has got the longest, most amazing riff I have (nearly) ever heard. Where does Chris pull them out from?? - -- Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Slaves and Bulldozers I can't see how anyone could put Slaves & Bulldozers as one of their least favourite SG tracks. It has to be an archetypal SG song, one of the doomiest, heaviest things they ever committed to vinyl and the "the wreck is going down" refrain, one of the catchiest. Sorry but for me its UP THERE!! Apparently, when they toured with Guns n' Roses in 92' Slash used to come on and play this track with them, a prize 'noodler' if there ever was one!! Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Liesl A Asiu Subject: Re: a silent peson I agree, if there is a subject that does not look interesting to you just trash it! I am all for responsible mailing and not sending messages to the list when it's not warrented but I also think that you should not be so concerned about what we feel we want to talk about. This is supposed to be fun, remember! > >If this is how you feel, then by all means, unsubscribe yourself. > >On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Limo Wreck wrote: > >> Blind dog, >> i consider myself to be a major soundgarden fan, but most of the time i >> consider this lists postings worthless dribble. I don't care what Susan Silver >> looks like. I know Chris isn't homophobic. Kim has always been male. I don't >> want to listen to Black Hole Sun MTV converts tell me their opinion on what >> songs rule. I don't care what people have on their computers. >> I don't have the time to read 30 damn messages a day. If i'm lucky, i check my >> e-mail about once every 3 days. Where do you people get your free time to >> respond 10 times...? > > > > ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: (not) Slagging Ben > Actually all of the band hate touring especially nowadays if you saw > them at reading you would understand. Why should Ben LIKE the fans , > when they go round slagging him off. > Mark > > If the band hate touring then they should'nt disappoint the fans with below-par gigs and just stop touring altogether. And I presume you mean fans like me slagging Ben? I did'nt actually slag him I just relayed the details of an interview he gave in a magazine that I thought those fans who don't wear rose-tinted spectacles might be interested in - discuss. Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) just a thought... > if you look at the songs from badmotorfinger through to >superunknown, the first song 'rusty cage' has chris singing about, of >course, how he is going to break his rusty cage. but the last song from >superunknown (like suicide) has him safe inside his gilded cage. is this >an improvement? are they getting just too darn happy? one more time >around might do it? > only a suggestion though :) Probably not seeing eye dog, Like suicide is about a bird smashing itself into Chris's window, plus Chris falls on black days on superunk, if you listen to the lyrics of that song, it sounds like everything he tries fails, so I doubt if they're that happy. Or fresh tendrills, sounds like he waited for something for a long time, and never received it. Now he's lost because he knows he waited in vain. Just a few of my thoughts, Clown ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: RE: Erudite #9, 78,1 >Hello-- Maybe your personal god's proper name is "Yahweh", but that >doesn't mean everyone else's is. Please avoid trying to name my god. >Thank you very much. >Kate In regards to the naming of gods, Christians and Muslims often get confused because Muslims say Allah and Christians say god. What most of them don't realize is that god in Arabic is Allah and Vice Versa, nor do they realize that before the start of the Islamic religion that Christians in Arabic speaking countries referred to god as Allah and in fact still do, the muslim religion is just a differrent method of worship. God doesn't recognize language, cultural or racial barriers. So why whould we argue over our supreme beings monniker. When it comes down to it we are all worshipping the same thing. "To call a rose by any other name would it not smell as sweet" -Shakespeare. Clown >Maybe ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: Ty Cobb Trivia fact, Since we're discussing soundgardens relation to baseball, did you know that Randy Johnson A.K.A. The big unit is a huge soundgarden fan? He's also a good friend of the bands and sat in and listned when the band recorded fourth of july. It was an all day thing but I would have loved to be there. I could definitely listen to that song all day. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "This song is about killing your fucking boss" - Chris Cornell _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: Chris - Homophobic? --> Actually Green River As far as I knew, Green River was composed of Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard, Jeff Ament and I guess three other fellows (I don't know who). At the time, Pearl Jam was already Pearl Jam, just freshly baked. Eddie had just arrived from California. It was Eddie's and Mike McReady's first record with the band. Pearljamesque; URB@NO On Sun, 8 Oct 1995 Experiment@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 95-10-07 19:51:33 EDT, Scott wrote: > > >***ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOTE (sorry to yell, but I had to get your > >attention): Here's a question for the die-hard SG fans in the audience: has > >anyone out there got the lowdown on Green River? If I'm remembering > >correctly > >(and I don't think I am) it was a band featuring members of SG and/or > >Mudhoney and/or MotherLoveBone. I don't know if they even released anything > >other than a single or two, but apparently they were one of those great > >collaborations that were going on in Seattle in the mid-to-late '80's (if > >only > >I'd known). *SIGH* > > I don't know about Green River . . . but Soundgarden DID do a sort of > collaboration with Pearl Jam as Temple of the Dog (either Soundgarden or > Pearl Jam actually had a different name at the time . . . actually, maybe it > was Pearl Jam and Green River?) . . . but you all probably know all about > that already and I'm just wasting my time . . . sigh . . . > > Soundgarden and Green River? . . . > > The Guitarist > > "Lives we make > never seem to ever get us > anywhere but dead." > ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: Australia On Sun, 8 Oct 1995, Andrew Northcutt wrote: > O.K.! I said it isn't THAT good but I didn't say it wasn't good. You > want a closer trip to get it? Go to Mexico...I got it there. Chiao! > SGF Better yet, contact me and I might send it to the US. Afterall Mexico is deep in an economic crisis which means you'd get the CD's for 1/2 the price I guess :^) Mexican (and proud of it); URB@NO ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: We are all homophobic??? Since when?!? WARNING: The post you are about to read has nothing to do with Soundgarden. It is just a little essay about homophobia. If you feel offended by such content in any way. Please delete this post NOW. =========== HOMOPHOBIA IS A FACT. IN EVERYONE OF US ================== Some time ago, I had a school assignment -> a research about homophobia. Homophobia is a little like good and evil. We all have a little bit of it within ourselves. It doesn't matter how good you try to be, you will always keep within yoursel the tiniest of hates to that little something. The same goes for he who tries to be as evil as the devil himself. He might always feel pity in the most extreme situation. Personally, I don't hate homosexuals or lesbians. (Neither religious goups, some race or some other society). I might as well have an homosexual friend if some homosexual wanted to be my friend (have you ever wondered if any of your friends is, secretly, gay?, or even yourself?). If I went around telling people that, they may think that I'm not a homophobic. But (and there's always a "but") if some gay came to me and tried to kiss me, hug me, convince me or anything related to homosexuality, I just wouldn't tolerate it, he would earn my hate. It is like a guy and a girl being friends. Modern society finds it hard to believe that they are not lovers, modern society finds it hard to believe that a straight guy can be a gay's friend. Homophobia is just a sotial pressure which makes individuals hate a determined group. URB@NO ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: Punk Rock  F Hey friends, what about those great Punk bands like Ramones, Black Flag or VoidVod? They're punker than anyone Not-Punk; URB@NO On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Daniel Garrett wrote: > > > > Um, Daniel, you said that Offspring were ripoff artists...Um, if it > > wasn't for Offspring, "real" punk music would have never hit mainstream > > America. -j > > > j, > > I can appreciate that you are a fan of Offspring, fair enough, each to his own, > whatever you're into. My point is that Offspring, to me are an unashamed > Nirvana rip-off band, with a dreadful whiny singer, in fact its possible to > sing specific Nirvana melodies over certain Offspring songs, to me that is > unforgiveable. Besides I think the equally awful Green Day and Bad Religion > are just as responsible for bringing Punk into the mainstream in the US > - > Daniel Garrett > ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Big Veins, again :^) Dudes: As I posted earlier, I used to play in a band. Our bassist was the best non-professional player I've ever seen. He played his bass with all his strenght. DO YOU REALLY THINK HE HAD TINY LITTLE VEINS? C'mon pals haven't you ever played a bass, it is never as soft as playing an harp. The string are quite tight. URB@NO PD: He never tasted one shot of heroin On Mon, 9 Oct 1995 UnknMan@aol.com wrote: > >Were you here earlier for the "Big veins" discussion. My theory was that he > >was on heroien. It's just an assumption, read the disclaimer below. > > This really bothered me back when we discussed Sheppard's veins. I've never > done heroine (or any other of that nonsense for that matter) and I have veins > alot like Sheppard's. No, I'm not any bigger than him.. I'm his height > (well. I guess he's about 6'2" or 6'3") and I'm lighter than him (I guess > he's over 165lbs definately.) I guess my large veins come from doing various > lifting and what not... I'd probably develop the same thing if I played a > bass (a big, somtimes bulky instrument) and slung it like I had Epilepsy > (sorry, best description I could muster). I'm not saying that Ben > does/doesn't have a drug problem.. I'm just saying that after looking at a > guy's arms you can't really accuse him of injecting crap into his arm's.. > unless the tale-tell 'tracks' are visible. I personally have never noticed > these marks on Sheppard's arms... and I'd say this is bulging vein argument > is unjustifable... (c: Everyone have a great day... > > Oh, I never really liked Green River much, but I believe that Bruce > Fairweather (MLB.. no not Major League Baseball) played precussion for them.. > but don't quote me on that. > > On a different note: on the song 'Touch Me'... the female vocals are > Stephanie Barber, right? Where have I heard this name before? Anyone, > anyone (opps.. I can't steal someone elses line) (c; > > non-elitist from an AOL account that doesn't ever have anything important to > say... uh.. I mean: > UnknownMan... > ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: Once again it's on! Yes man your posts are oaky. About Brad. This band is Stone Gossard's side project from Pearl Jam. I've never heard about any Soundgarden members in it but I'm not sure. I alse never heard them. URB@NO On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Chris Dawg wrote: > Howdy!! Can you guys let me know if my stuff is gettin' through? I'm not > sure if my first message is getting posted or not. Another question: Has > anyone heard of or have any info on a group called "Brad" that suppposedly has > some Seattle residents/ SG members in it? > > "The day I tried to live > I stole a thousand beggars' change > and gave it to the rich"-- Love, peace and hairgrease, Chris Dawg > ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: GUITARS On Sun, 8 Oct 1995, Andrew Northcutt wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Oct 1995 Experiment@aol.com wrote: > > > Any Soundgarden-type guitarists out there? > > > Just WHAT exactly do u mean? > SGF Actually, I'm more like Fats-Dominos, well just half of him. Take out the Dominos and leave the Fat. Yes that's me. :^) (You'll see when the directory is ready). Big; URB@NO ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: Sara Hoeck's letter Beloved pals: One of the thing I think is happening to us, is the lack of subjects. We're all (well, almost all) avid Soundgarden fans. One of the main phenomena (was that spelled right?) is that when someone (like Sara) wants to tell us (her friends) something about her, she just gets flamed. Have you ever tried to imagine how the list would be if only SG was spoken here. I think we would only receive about five messages a day and all from the same subjects. C'mon we're a cyber-society, we're supposedly friends and we can read someone's life from time to time. Else, I think this would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO boring, it would be like a computer to computer dicussion. URB@NO PD: John's right, if someone doesn't want to read a post, just erease it. That is why E-Mail was conceived with that "SUBJECT:" field. I'm getting tired of so much hate mail. :^) On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, John Grieves wrote: > Don't want to sound rude, Limo Wreck AKA Jeremy Crocker, but why don't you > get the digest if the volume of mail you're receiving is a problem? The last > thing I want to see (and shoot me if I'm wrong) is the list stifled because > some people want less mail... or failing that, unsubscribe. > > Just suggestions... > > Jackhammer. > > > ------------------------------ From: LaMONT SANFORD My friends and I have always wanted Chris Cornell (in the Badmoterfinger days) to play Jesus if Jesus Christ Superstar ever had real rock stars in it. It would rock. As for my least favorite soundgarden song: Definitely "Exit Stonehenge". Jesus save souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS Go in Peace and Serve the Lord Aaron Gary Beyer ------------------------------ From: Michael Kitzman Subject: Seattle Scene This is for those who where wondering who was in Green River and how they are connected to Soundgarden. The Living Green River #3 Malfunkshun#2 Duff McKagen--| |---Mark Arm |--Stone Gossard Greg Gilmore | | Alex Vincent | Andrew Wood others | | Stone Gossard---------| Regan Hagar Jeff Ament | | Jeff Ament------------| Kevin Wood | ---------| | Bruce Fairweather-------| ----------- | | | | 10 Min. Warning |--------Mudhoney Lords of the Wasteland Duff McKagen Steve Turner Regan Hagar Andrew Wood David Garngues Mark Arm Bruce Fairweather Steve Varewot(sp?) Matt Lukin Stone Gossard Paul Seiger Danny Peters Jeff Ament Greg Gilmore | | | | | ----------------| | | 10 Min Warning Lords of the Wasteland #2 Feedback ------------------------------| Bruce Fairweather Tom Nerm, Steve Varewot, Regan Hagar Matt Cameron Paul Seiger Andrew Wood Daniel House Greg Gilmore-------Greg Gilmore | Daniel House Stone Gossard |--------------------------------| Jeff Ament | ------------------ | | (a very Condensed) Skin Yard Mother Love Bone Daniel House, Ben McMillan |-- Bruce Fairweather Jack Endino, Greg Gilmore-------|---Greg Gilmore, Jeff Ament Matt Cameron, Jason Finn | Andrew Wood, Stone Gossard | | | Mike McCready (from Love Chile, | | | Shadow, and Warrior) | |-----------------| --------------------------- |-------------| | | | | | Soundgarden | Blind Horse Luv Co Kim Thayil | Jason Finn Jeff Ament, Tim Dijulro Scott Sundquist | Bruce Fairweather Mike McCready, Chris Friel Hiro Yamamoto | others Shawn Smith, Tom Gunn Chris Cornell | Greg Gilmore replaced--Richard Stuverud - ------------------| --------------- ----------------------- | | | | | | Soundgarden #2 Love Battery un-named Rehersals Hiro Yamamoto Jason Finn Stone Gossard Kim Thayil Bruce Fairweather Jeff Ament Matt Cameron Ron Nine Mike McCready Chris Cornell Kevin Whitworth - ------------- -------------------- | | | | Soundgarden # 3 Temple of the Dog-----------| Ben Sheppard Stone Gossard, Eddie Vedder Kim Thayil Jeff Ament, Mike McCready Matt Cameron---------Matt Cameron ----------------- Chris Cornell--------Chris Cornell | | | Mookie Blaylock aka Pearl Jam Mike McCready, Eddie Vedder Son of Man Jeff Ament, Stone Gossard Dave Krusen-----------------------Dave Krusen Tal Goettling ----------------------- Greg Gilmore (replaced DK) | others | Pearl Jam #2 Dave Abbruzzese replaced Matt Chamberlain Jeff Ament Eddie Vedder Stone Gossard --------- | Brad Stone Gossard Regan Hagar Shawn Smith Jeremy Toback The safe bed is on your knees, bow your head to the trinity-CC ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 10 Oct 1995 >Doll. Mark Arm sings, but there is another guy who plays guitar, not >Steve Turner. His name illudes me at present, but Stone Gossard and Jeff >Ament are both on it and a guy called Bruce Fairwhether plays drums. He >is apparently in another band at present, but I dunno who. From what >I've heard they were pre Mudhoney and pre Mother Love Bone and the two >consequenting bands formed from this. Correct me please if I'm wrong on >this points. Hope this info helped you out. > >Cheers. >- -Ben..... >- -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au Bruce Fairweather was the lead guitar player for Mother Love Bone, so I assume that's what he played in Green River. Alex Vincent was the other member of GR. Presumably, he played drums. >> >The other thing that has been bothering me for a while is that the >list has become stagnant. Those who have been here since the beginning >have discussed everything imaginable that relates to Soundgarden. It's >up to the new people to ask questions and start interesting threads, >and don't hesitate to post if you have something to say about >Soundgarden. We may have heard it before, but that only allows us to >give better replies. We'll all be back to square one in 43 days. > >seth (listadmin) > Agreed. But good threads do start occasionally and then die. To wit, the lyric compilation thread whose progenitor has already declared dead after one day. I tried to follow up with a post about a line in "Flower" but I don't see it in my digest, so I'll repost. I think the line goes "eyes of opal green" instead of "eyes of purple green." That's 'opal', meaning translucent, as opposed to 'purple' meaning purple. So come on. Let's roll with this one. SSSSSSSSSSS ------------------------------ From: Andrew Northcutt Subject: MAILMAN! I want to start a poll: What do you all think Mailman's lyrics are about? I've got this all wacky idea and wanted to know if it I'm not the only one. Thanx SGM ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Cornell Quote From a July 1995 interview with Chris Cornell...What's been the pinnacle of Soundgarden's career? "I think the closest to that is when our record debuted at #1 in the U.S. We did it without having to be Pop stars. That's probably the moment when all of what we've tried to do and everything we felt about music brought us to a point where we were successful. Hopefully that will stand out as inspiration to other people who play music they think no one's gonna like." Vikki ------------------------------ From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington) Subject: Re: Ripoff bands Well, fellow Soundgarden fans, this would be my first post, so be gentle. Although many of you seem to be upset with the amounts of postings concerning other bands besides SG, I personally think that it makes everything else more interesting. So here we go: Silverchair is a ripoff band definately. I hear so much Soundgarden in their songs it amazes me. However, this is one of the reasons that I bought their CD. I don't idolize any particular bands, but I just like the music. So, if I find something that sounds similar, but not exactly like something I already have, I will most likely look into it. I mean, if you're talking about bands sounding similar, most of the grunge bands today get their roots (at least so they say) from Led Zeppelin and such. My muddled point is that all bands are going to sound a little bit like something that was done earlier, but each band seems to change it just enough to make it original (and therefore good or bad). The only band I do not see this with is the Offspring, who just completely ripped off Nirvana. In response to Bush, I don't see that much SG in them. I saw them live with the Toadies (who rock so hard), and the lead singer, Gavin, actually seems to be different than all the depressed, moody singers I'm used to. In my opinion they are good, though not as good (obviously) as SG. In response to STP, I agree that they capitalized on the whole "grunge" (I hate that word) period, but then again, who really didn't? I also saw them live, and the personality of the band just makes them stand out in my opinion. "Core" is one of the best albums I've ever heard (up there with Superunknown, In Utero, Rubberneck (toadies), and Vs.). Anyway, just thought I'd share my feelings with you all. I can't exactly say my opinions on SG will be too valid, because I only have Badmotorfinger and Superunknown, but I'll try my hardest. -Matt ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson Frederick M.) Subject: discovering soundgarden -- birth of a thread? From reading people's posts it's apparent to me that most listmembers discovered Soundgarden around the time Badmotorfinger was released. Mr. Listadmin admits as much in his testimonial on the web site. As for moi, I first encountered Soundgarden in an article about some new bands in Rolling Stone in 1988. Comparisons were made between Ultramega OK and the work of Zeppelin and Sabbath. Cornell rejected the Zeppelin comparison, saying "they were just a bunch of idiots who wrote cool riffs," which bugged me, but was understandable given the looming spectre of Kingdom Come at the time. Thayil was conciliatory, noting that Zeppelin was a good band, but "everyone is getting compared to them these days." So they were forgiven. And I proceeded to seek Ultramega OK. I never found it. Yet the name 'Soundgarden' stuck to my cortex like an octopus in a Bugs Bunny cartoon (it has a way of doing that), and in late '89 (Freshman year of college) I happened upon Louder Than Love. Fandom struck. In summer '90 I saw the band open for Danzig at University of Maryland, College Park. (Was Jamie there?) In fall '91 I got my BMF. Then, with the advent of Nirvana and Pearl Jam, BMF got popular, spawned all those videos, and was joined in record stores by the earlier releases. (Finally I got my Ultramega and my Screaming Life/Fopp. Then, recently, I got my hands on Seattle Scruffs, Stolen Prayers, and Deep Six -- and, of course, Superunkown). I think the fact that BMF brought fame to Soundgarden in the wake of the "Seattle explosion" brought on by Nevermind gave BMF something of a black mark for me. It just didn't seem right that a band that kicked such ass in its own right, and whose music I had introduced to my friends (making converts of some, irritating others), was now being sold to the masses on MTV as "one of those new grunge bands from Seattle. I had liked thinking of SG as a metal band -- Sabbath with brains. Now their fan base was growing out of "grunge cred," if there can be such a thing. Pissed me off. (I couldn't even listen to Nirvana until shortly before the end, and as for PJ - -- I'll stick with Mother Love Bone, thank you.) So...well...I guess that's my story. Now, some people will think I'm bragging about being an "authentic" fan and that I don't want SG to be popular. I'm not saying any of this. But feeling the way I do about, say, Badmotorfinger, is not uncommon, even among artists (look at how Cobain regarded the fans he aquired after Nevermind). So make of it what you will. And let the (self-indulgent, though mercifully SG-related) thread begin. Sammson ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: just a thought... On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, blind dog wrote: > > > I was thinking on the way to uni today that maybe soundgarden's > lyrical content (esp. chris') may look like it is getting less aggressive > and more oppressive, but maybe it is getting more optimistic. > i agree with you on this one. In my opinion, the lyrics in the newer material is more poetic and optomistic. Also, i think that because of this , the lyrics are more open to interpretation by the individual. Example: fourth of july to some of us is about nuclear holocoast and to others is about a bad acid trip. ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: RE: Erudite #9, 78,1 I wish that i understood this. For the life of me i cant figure it out. On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Kate Mercier wrote: > > Hello-- Maybe your personal god's proper name is "Yahweh", but that > doesn't mean everyone else's is. Please avoid trying to name my god. > Thank you very much. > > Kate > > > > Maybe > > ------------------------------ From: "Scott J. Schmidt" Subject: SG videos - in the movies On October 10, Benjamin Jon Macqeen wrote: >Subject: Hands All Over > >Howdy, I recently saw the film clip for Hands All Over and I was just >wondering, for any of those who have seen it, who is the blonde guy. >>From what I remember, Yamamoto did the bass on LTL but on the film clip >there is a guy with blonde curly hair running around. I'm confused, >please clarify this little discrepency for me. > >Cheers >- -Ben..... This is a little off the subject, but there was a brief bit of a video for "Hands All Over" in the movie "Pacific Heights". Was this the same video, or was it something made up for the movie? I vaguely remember bits of war and destruction footage, but no shots of any bandmembers. I suppose I'm the only one who's seen this. Any other movies with Soundgarden videos in em? I'm guessing not. Anybody got the comprehensive list of all Soundgarden's soundtrack contributions? Scott ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Seattle Scene Dude, you gotta get out more. You have a bit, just a bit, too much time on your hands. On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Michael Kitzman wrote: > This is for those who where wondering who was in Green River and how they > are connected to Soundgarden. > > The Living Green River #3 Malfunkshun#2 > Duff McKagen--| |---Mark Arm |--Stone Gossard > Greg Gilmore | | Alex Vincent | Andrew Wood > others | | Stone Gossard---------| Regan Hagar Jeff Ament > | | Jeff Ament------------| Kevin Wood > | ---------| | Bruce Fairweather-------| ----------- > | | | | > 10 Min. Warning |--------Mudhoney Lords of the Wasteland > Duff McKagen Steve Turner Regan Hagar Andrew Wood > David Garngues Mark Arm Bruce Fairweather > Steve Varewot(sp?) Matt Lukin Stone Gossard > Paul Seiger Danny Peters Jeff Ament > Greg Gilmore | > | | > | | > ----------------| | > | 10 Min Warning Lords of the Wasteland #2 > Feedback ------------------------------| Bruce Fairweather > Tom Nerm, Steve Varewot, Regan Hagar > Matt Cameron Paul Seiger Andrew Wood > Daniel House Greg Gilmore-------Greg Gilmore > | Daniel House Stone Gossard > |--------------------------------| Jeff Ament > | ------------------ > | | > (a very Condensed) Skin Yard Mother Love Bone > Daniel House, Ben McMillan |-- Bruce Fairweather > Jack Endino, Greg Gilmore-------|---Greg Gilmore, Jeff Ament > Matt Cameron, Jason Finn | Andrew Wood, Stone Gossard > | | | Mike McCready (from Love Chile, > | | | Shadow, and Warrior) > | |-----------------| --------------------------- > |-------------| | | > | | | > Soundgarden | Blind Horse Luv Co > Kim Thayil | Jason Finn Jeff Ament, Tim Dijulro > Scott Sundquist | Bruce Fairweather Mike McCready, Chris Friel > Hiro Yamamoto | others Shawn Smith, Tom Gunn > Chris Cornell | Greg Gilmore replaced--Richard Stuverud > ------------------| --------------- ----------------------- > | | | > | | | > Soundgarden #2 Love Battery un-named Rehersals > Hiro Yamamoto Jason Finn Stone Gossard > Kim Thayil Bruce Fairweather Jeff Ament > Matt Cameron Ron Nine Mike McCready > Chris Cornell Kevin Whitworth > ------------- -------------------- > | | > | | > Soundgarden # 3 Temple of the Dog-----------| > Ben Sheppard Stone Gossard, Eddie Vedder > Kim Thayil Jeff Ament, Mike McCready > Matt Cameron---------Matt Cameron ----------------- > Chris Cornell--------Chris Cornell | > | > | > Mookie Blaylock aka Pearl Jam > Mike McCready, Eddie Vedder > Son of Man Jeff Ament, Stone Gossard > Dave Krusen-----------------------Dave Krusen > Tal Goettling ----------------------- > Greg Gilmore (replaced DK) | > others | > Pearl Jam #2 > Dave Abbruzzese replaced > Matt Chamberlain > Jeff Ament > Eddie Vedder > Stone Gossard > --------- > | > Brad > Stone Gossard > Regan Hagar > Shawn Smith > Jeremy Toback > > > > The safe bed is on your knees, bow your head to the trinity-CC > > > > ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: re Silverchair is a ripoff band definately. I hear so much Soundgarden > in their songs it amazes me. ....... The only band I do > not see this with is the Offspring, who just completely ripped off Nirvana. Personally i would be damn happy if every band out there in musicland sounded like nirvana and soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU Subject: GirlBomb One day a friend and I were going to lunch and a Soundgarden song came on. My friend quickly turned off the radio spouting off something in the process. She said that she didn't agree with SoundGardens music because Chris Cornell is a Womaniser. I was about to defend him but I stopped because I didn't know if he was or not. In retrospect I narrowed my problem down to my own ignorance. Can someone who knows what being a "womaniser" means enlighten me? LaughingBoy ------------------------------ Subject: List Business - IMPORTANT! From: seth Okay, listen up: If you want to unsubscribe, send ONE MESSAGE (yes, count it, ONE) to SAPERL@MIT.EDU (NOT the list, understand?). I will remove you from the list as soon as I possibly can. DO NOT send more unsubscribe messages. It may take up to 2 days for you to stop receiving list mail, but that's how it is, and I have no control over that. Once again, for those of you who have memory problems, that address is: SAPERL@MIT.EDU SAPERL@MIT.EDU SAPERL@MIT.EDU SAPERL@MIT.EDU SAPERL@MIT.EDU Got it? I have no problem with you unsubscribing, but it should only inconvenience one person: me. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: Frizzle Fry Subject: Re: EJ Fry My friend and mentor, if you will, Baron Benjamin Jon Macqueen wrote: > Mr. Ej, you seems to be passing a shitload of judgement on everyone > else! Take a pill and chill out! > Hey! That's MR. EJ to you! Oh, never mind. hee hee ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: MAILMAN! At 01:04 PM 10/10/95 -0400, Andrew Northcutt wrote: > I want to start a poll: >What do you all think Mailman's lyrics are about? I've got this all wacky >idea and wanted to know if it I'm not the only one. > Thanx > SGM > Methinks that the standard opinion held not long ago was that it was about a mailman who went on a shooting spree in the USA. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think someone told me that being a mailman in the USA is really stressful (not sure why) and that they have a relatively high suicide rate.... All opinions welcome... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: Andrew Northcutt Subject: Re: Ripoff bands > In response to Bush, I don't see that much SG in them. I saw them > live with the Toadies (who rock so hard), and the lead singer, Gavin, > actually seems to be different than all the depressed, moody singers I'm > used to. In my opinion they are good, though not as good (obviously) as SG. > >I don't think Bust is a SG ripoff, it is a NIRVANA ripoff doesn't anybody hear me? SGM ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) At 04:09 PM 10/10/95 -0400, BdMtrFngr wrote: > Silverchair is a ripoff band definately. I hear so much Soundgarden >> in their songs it amazes me. ....... The only band I do >> not see this with is the Offspring, who just completely ripped off Nirvana. > >Personally i would be damn happy if every band out there in musicland >sounded like nirvana and soundgarden. > The only problem is, if this was to happen, would Nirvana and Soundgarden just fall into mediocrity if everyone else sounded like them? Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: GirlBomb At 02:33 PM 10/10/95 GMT+7, WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU wrote: > One day a friend and I were going to lunch and a Soundgarden song >came on. My friend quickly turned off the radio spouting off >something in the process. She said that she didn't agree with >SoundGardens music because Chris Cornell is a Womaniser. I was about >to defend him but I stopped because I didn't know if he was or not. > In retrospect I narrowed my problem down to my own ignorance. Can >someone who knows what being a "womaniser" means enlighten me? Around Australia, being a womaniser means that you have little respect for women (beyond their bodies anyhow) and pretty much use them for meaningless sex... for the Aussies, a classic example is our old prime minister, Bob Hawke. Note: being a womaniser does not stop you from getting married and still using women! As for Chris Cornell being a womaniser, I make no comment - I don't know one way or the other... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: GirlBomb Your friend is wrong. A basic description of a womanizer is a man who simply uses women for sex. This is an unfortunate assumption that Cornell often falls prey to because of his rock god good looks and charisma. But, it is just a stereotype. Chris Cornell is a happily married man. His wife is Susan Silver, the intelligent and savvy business woman who is manager to Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. She began managing SG about a year after she and Chris started dating. They have been together for a decade. So...loan your SG CD's to your friend and introduce her to what she's been missing. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: GirlBomb Author: WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU at nylanr01 Date: 10/10/95 2:33 PM One day a friend and I were going to lunch and a Soundgarden song came on. My friend quickly turned off the radio spouting off something in the process. She said that she didn't agree with SoundGardens music because Chris Cornell is a Womaniser. I was about to defend him but I stopped because I didn't know if he was or not. In retrospect I narrowed my problem down to my own ignorance. Can someone who knows what being a "womaniser" means enlighten me? LaughingBoy ------------------------------ Subject: Seth's concerns From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) I am not new to the mailing list but usually silent. Here is a new Soundgarden question for everyone on the list. Name the ONE reason why Soundgarden is your favorite band or one of your favorite bands. I will start off with my reason: Chris Cornell's voice/vocal range. Looking forward to seeing some interesting posts on this subject. nephend (one of the "greyhairs") ------------------------------ From: WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU Subject: Foppbomb I don't know if it's still a topic but my most hated Soundgarden song to date is Spoonman. I still don't know what mind altering drugs the band was on when they wrote that piece. ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: Big Bad Ben. Terry Date produced Louder than Love, and Bmf Superunk was produced by Michael Beinhorn. _______________________________________________________________________________ They're all a Bunch Of Clowns With Bazookas. -Kim Thayil _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Seth's concerns At 06:39 PM 10/10/95 -0400, nancy e phend wrote: >I am not new to the mailing list but usually silent. Here is a new >Soundgarden question for everyone on the list. Name the ONE reason why >Soundgarden is your favorite band or one of your favorite bands. I will >start off with my reason: Chris Cornell's voice/vocal range. Looking >forward to seeing some interesting posts on this subject. > >nephend (one of the "greyhairs") That's hard - I'd have to say musical complexity - there is no KISS (keep it simple, stupid) principles involved in this music! This includes the time signatures, harmonies etc. etc. Jackhammer. ------------------------------ Subject: SG/WEB ?s From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) Seth, found a couple of old articles that might help with the questions you posted. In the April 1994 issue of SPIN: "...that Thayil and Yamamoto and Chris Cornell formed Soundgarden as a power trio with Cornell both drumming and singing; that Matt Cameron came aboard as a drummer in '86, and Ben Shepherd took over from Yamamoto and temp-guy Jason Evermans as bassist near the beginning of '90." So I guess this means there was no original "fourth member" of Soundgarden. Also says Jason Everman was never a permanent member. And lastly when Hiro left. Hope this helps. I will keep looking to see if I can answer any of the other questions. nephend P.S. In the September 1992 issue of SPIN it insinuates that the first place that Soundgarden played was a club called the "Gorilla Gardens, an unsavory all-ages club." Can't confirm on this though. ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: a silent peson On Oct 9, 4:42pm, EJ Fry wrote: > Subject: Re: a silent peson > > Wait, you forgot to metion that YOU SUCK. > > On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Limo Wreck wrote: if i suck for voicing an opinion, which by the way seems to be favorable due to the amount of responses i got in favor of, then you must swallow. - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "To die unsung would really bring you down" -Helmet "When they come to ethnically cleans me, will you speak out, will you defend me?" -Pop Will Eat Itself "I'm high as a kite and my teeth are green. Mary fuckin Christmas" -Dennis Leary ------------------------------ From: WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU Subject: Girlbomb II Just for the record I did realize that Chris was a married man, but it was songs like ColdBitch that got my thought processing pot a'simpering.( I decided to use the word "simpering" rather than "sterring" just because ) Aside from this you guys have givin' me something to work with. Thanks. Heptozigman ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com 5-10-09 18:32:36 EDT, fryej@ucsub.colorado.edu (EJ Fry) writes: >Noel Redding? Better than everyone, including Ben??? You've gone mad >methinks! You have obviously never listened to the likes of Les >Claypool, Kai Eckhardt, Victor Wooton, Charlie Hayden, Paul D'amour, Doug >Wimbish, etc. etc. Noel Redding was a guitar player originally, the man >had no bass skills. Well...Noel is good...but I don't feel that Ben ranks up there. Hell, I don't even think he's as good as Hiro. I think they sound great without Hiro, and Ben fits in better, but Hiro was a stronger player. And yes, Les can kick any bassist's ass any day. Which band is Noel in? Moon Druid BTW - What do all the SGers think of Bush? ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Isn't this list for... >Anyway, I thought the purpose of this mailing list was to bring us (SG >lovers) together.... if that means that one of us are not even allowed to >share something not directly dealing with SG then what is the sense? >Lighten up will you.... I agree. I think that we should be allowed to talk about the Presidents of the United States of America and not be flamed. I think we should be allowed to talk about our love...or lack there of...of Silverchair. Maybe we Soundgarden fans have different opinions about music than Live fans. Maybe we Soundgarden fans like to do different things on the weekend than Annie Lennox fans. Most of all, maybe we Soundgarden fans can act a little more civil sometimes. We're on this list to chat about our favorite band, make new friends from all over the world, find out if it's REALLY worth it to buy that new Chilli Peppers CD...our views on music should bring us together as friends. If I wanna ask "Is it worth it to buy the Foo Fighters albim?" I'm asking YOU becauase we're the ones that like SG. If I post on the Foo Fighters mailing list, they're going to say YES and if I post on the Megadeth mailing list they'll say NO. So, since I listen to Soundgarden, and you all listen to Soundgarden, and we all like the music that Soundgarden makes (and if you disagree with any of the above statements, then why are you here in the first place?) then I think that I should be able to get an answer WITHOUT being flamed by people like BadMtrFngr who have nothing better to do but insult people that he doesn't like! That was what Adolf Hitler did!!! Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Worst SG track >On the subject of people's worst SG song, my opinion is that Exit >Stonehenge is a load of toss and Full on Kev's Mom comes a close >second. Don't get me wrong SG are my fave band in the known universe Wow!!! No way!!! I love Full On Kev's mom. I mean, it's no Gun, but I like the fact that it's fast, deep, and a real kicker to mosh to. Lemme tell ya, it REALLY get's the crowd excited when you sing "Full On Kev's mom" after the solo. Okay, now for the question. I would have to say that my LEAST favorite is....well...lemme put all this in table format. This is spitting out a LOT of questions in a row. Least Fave song - I Awake Fave Song - Gun...or Ugly Truth....I can't decide!!! Fave lyric - I don't understand you, and I can't see why I'd ever want to - Ugly Truth CEREAL - Louder Than Life Flakes, defintely flakes of bran (Hey, they're gettin up there :) and wheat. Rasins too...rasin-nuts!!! (For Ben). Marshmellows, uh-huh. black microphones, blue guitars, white drums, yellow hypdermic needles (just kiddin), orange dogs, green tour busses, and red suns with a hole in them. Picture on the box - a few of them. First off, the picture that Jan took of Chris. Next up, Kim, Chris, Ben, and Matt jammin at the last concert on the Motorvision tour. Then, a picture of them from the most rescent tour in Europe. Finally, a picture of Chris with a shaved head. Collect all four!!! Free prize - a live concert recording >peoples least fave band member?? Ben gets my vote since I read an >interview where he said he hates touring, despises the fans and said >he liked to spit on them and kick them at gigs- nice guy!! Also I >think the songs he's written (except Somewhere) are not that hot. I agree as well. Ben's the new guy. I love Somewhere. As far as touring goes, it might be a little too much time away from friends, too much stress, all that. >Just my opinion. ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: HEEEEEEY Kate >Hello-- Maybe your personal god's proper name is "Yahweh", but that >doesn't mean everyone else's is. Please avoid trying to name my god. >Thank you very much. Try to avoid bringing your religious beliefs that nobdy cares about into the mailing list. Thank you very much. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Gotta love those antichrist songs! >I wonder why CC decided to record two reversed psychotic-sounding Satan >worship tracks on the CD? I mean, it's not as though they were necessary >or anything... Who was it...duh...oh well...someone said that it said "Santa!" so I checked and it sounded like Santa to me. Any thoughts? Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Stacy, Stacy, Stacy... >Well, again I'm reeling from a heavy bout of hate mail, but for once I > think that just maybe I was right. I'm not going to say any more on > the Stone Temple Pilot's issue, what's had to be said already has, and > I guess it just goes to show how many people on this list have nothing > better to do than compare music rather than listen to it. Or flame people for no apparent reason and trade magic cards. (TM) >On a general note, I don't own Soundgarden's "Louder Than Love" LP, and > nobody seems to mention it, is it a worthy purchase? Without a doubt, get it. It has some of their best songs EVER!!! Gun, Hands All Over, Big Dumb Sex, definitely worth purchasing. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Jeremy, dude...calm down.. >And if Soundgarden was reading this list, i bet they would kill us all. The >only reason i read this is to get NEWS about Soundgarden and maybe some >concert, bootleg stuff. Jeremy...c'mon. Bad mood or something? I mean, yeah, you're probably bogged down in mail you aren't to crazy about reading, but a lot of us wanna see it. So c'mon, please, don't stoop down the ranks of others on this list. Speak out in a happy manor. Thanks for the input...it'll help in the future. But just chill out a little. He IS making a good point, however. We're spending a lot of time on small issue. I'm not saying stop, but I am saying that we're spending a lot of time on small issues. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: Experiment@aol.com Subject: Re: 665 --> 667 in REVERSE!!! >>I wonder why CC decided to record two reversed psychotic-sounding Satan >>worship tracks on the CD? I mean, it's not as though they were necessary >>or anything... >> >>(maybe it's sarcasm... satire of all those bands who pretend they're the >>antichrist etc...) >> >>Anyone else have any thoughts to share on the matter? >> >>Avatar. > >Definitely Chris's way of poking fun. He has a quick wit and can and does >slipp it in to his music. I think the band (I know this is going to sound >strange) is really normal ever day type people - that's normal in the sense >that they deal with every day problems in the usual ways. Their life style >may >be allot different from ours - but only because of the profession they are >in. >They eat, sleep, get up set at social problems like we do, but I don't think >they are closet Satan worshipers or over the edge on the black arts in any >way. > >Jamie Does anyone know if any of the members of Soundgarden have any Religious relationships? If so, what they are? The Guitarist ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Why I Like Soundgarden Well, I first started listening to Soundgarden because I'd heard so much about them and finally I had the opportunity to listen to them and they just totally blew me away. "Rusty Cage" was the first SG song I ever heard, and I was totally amazed. No song has affected me like that. So I guess I like Soundgarden because of their songwriting style and their ability to rock your socks off, to use a lame term. I didn't think Chris was anything special until a couple of months I started listening to them. Then I realized "you know, this guy has the best-sounding voice I've ever heard.. just a good sound, a PHENOMENAL range, and he can sing anything." What it boils down to is I like Soundgarden because of everything.. the songs they write, the way they play, the way they sound, the lyrics.. everything down to the songtitles. People will probably disagree with me and say EVERY band has some flaws, but I think Soundgarden is perfect, they appeal to me in every way. My two cents, you probably want your money back Foreshocks ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: your mail On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, John Grieves wrote: > >> not see this with is the Offspring, who just completely ripped off Nirvana. > > > >Personally i would be damn happy if every band out there in musicland > >sounded like nirvana and soundgarden. > > > > The only problem is, if this was to happen, would Nirvana and Soundgarden > just fall into mediocrity if everyone else sounded like them? Probably not. imho, other bands wouldn't be able to keep up with soundgarden. - -j *************************************************************************** "The words you say -"The Day i Tried to Live" never seem to live up to by the ones inside your head" Soundgarden **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: GirlBomb On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, John Grieves wrote: > At 02:33 PM 10/10/95 GMT+7, WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU wrote: > > One day a friend and I were going to lunch and a Soundgarden song > >came on. My friend quickly turned off the radio spouting off > >something in the process. She said that she didn't agree with > >SoundGardens music because Chris Cornell is a Womaniser. I was about > >to defend him but I stopped because I didn't know if he was or not. > > In retrospect I narrowed my problem down to my own ignorance. Can > >someone who knows what being a "womaniser" means enlighten me? > > Around Australia, being a womaniser means that you have little respect for > women (beyond their bodies anyhow) and pretty much use them for meaningless > sex... for the Aussies, a classic example is our old prime minister, Bob > Hawke. Note: being a womaniser does not stop you from getting married and > still using women! > > As for Chris Cornell being a womaniser, I make no comment - I don't know one > way or the other... > Question: What effect would it have on sg's music if CC is a womanizer? Should that make you stop listening to the band? I mean sure, i would think of that as a serious problem, but i'm sure many people listen to other musicians who have serious problems. -j *************************************************************************** "The words you say -"The Day i Tried to Live" never seem to live up to by the ones inside your head" Soundgarden **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Andrew Northcutt Subject: Re: Seth's concerns > I am not new to the mailing list but usually silent. Here is a new > Soundgarden question for everyone on the list. Name the ONE reason why > Soundgarden is your favorite band or one of your favorite bands. I will > start off with my reason: Chris Cornell's voice/vocal range. Looking > forward to seeing some interesting posts on this subject. > > nephend (one of the "greyhairs") > >I got me an answer...I like SG because of the guitar sounds, the f@$^% odd-time signatures they have(hey, I'm a drummer, complexity is what catches my attention), and Matt has had a HUGE influence in my drum-playing along w/Nick Menza. Matt has great "drum riffs" for every wierd-sounding song. Well, I could talk about him all night. But I also admire Chris. Chris for his voice range and his riffs, he's the master at all kinds of shit-looking tunings(I got the tabs for BMF and SUnk...wonder if I could transcribe for the home page?). There are tunnings as wierd as "Somewhere" in which ALL the strings are tuned to E to "Fell on Black Days" which is in normal tuning. I really don't have much to say about Kim and Ben but that doesn't mean I dislike them, I just don't admire them that much. But the truth is that if they were separated, they wouldn't be so great. So I like SG because of the MUSIC(what else?!) that's all(4 now) MEGAMAN-2000 ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: Why I Like Soundgarden On Tue, 10 Oct 1995 foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com wrote: > Well, I first started listening to Soundgarden because I'd heard so much > about them and finally I had the opportunity to listen to them and they > just totally blew me away. "Rusty Cage" was the first SG song I ever > heard, and I was totally amazed. No song has affected me like that. So I > guess I like Soundgarden because of their songwriting style and their > ability to rock your socks off, to use a lame term. I didn't think Chris > was anything special until a couple of months I started listening to > them. Then I realized "you know, this guy has the best-sounding voice > I've ever heard.. just a good sound, a PHENOMENAL range, and he can sing > anything." > What it boils down to is I like Soundgarden because of everything.. the > songs they write, the way they play, the way they sound, the lyrics.. > everything down to the songtitles. People will probably disagree with > me and say EVERY band has some flaws, but I think Soundgarden is > perfect, they appeal to me in every way. > My two cents, you probably want your money back > Foreshocks > > Exactly what he said. That's how i feel too. -j > *************************************************************************** "The words you say -"The Day i Tried to Live" never seem to live up to by the ones inside your head" Soundgarden **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Andrew Northcutt Subject: Re: Isn't this list for... O.K. I AGREE...I say that the Foo Fighters is O.K. but that Candlebox just Went DOWN :-[ they got no powerfull riffs anymore. That's all! :-) MEGAMAN-2000 ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Sg related > > Least Fave song - I Awake > It appears to me that "I Awake" is the winning vote getter so far for least favorite song on the list. Anyone want to come out and defend "I Awake"? Any one want to tell me who K. McDonald is? > Fave lyric - I don't understand you, and I can't see why I'd ever want to - > Ugly Truth > You think like i do. That is one of the most fun sg lyrics to sing, esp. when you are angry at someone. > CEREAL - Louder Than Life I should really take the time to put my wierd imagination to work on the cereal idea. How about "Grunge Life"? Ben'll eat it. "Ben eats anything". No that's not creative enough to be one of my ideas, and it is too much of a ripoff. How about an adult cereal paradoxically called "Toybox", that offered such prizes as guitar strings (yes, Ernie Ball strings do break, its a rarity, but it's happened to me) the band has broke, pieces of drumsticks that Matt has shattered, and other property sg has damaged or destroyed. The cereal must consist of unusual cereal foods, such as bacos, peanuts, grits, and even crackers. Why? because like sg's music, their cereal would have to taste different. Well, i'll go now yall, -j *************************************************************************** "The words you say -"The Day i Tried to Live" never seem to live up to by the ones inside your head" Soundgarden **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Sorry to bother you again but... ...does anyone remember this cheesey MTV after school show called Hangin' With MTV? And it would come on around 3 or 4 o'clock and they would have guest bands? Well in 1992 when Soundgarden was on tour with Lollapalooza they guested on this show. I wanted to tape it but I had no VCR. Does anyone remember this or have a tape of this? And if you do, what is that hat Chris is wearing? My memory serves up a picture of Chris in a Houston Astros cap but I'm not exactly sure... Trying to make conversation, Stolen Prayers ------------------------------ From: "Daniel S. Perry" Subject: Can't we all just get along? I just have a few things to say then I will get out of your face... Chris Mackenzie: I found SuperUnknown at a Blockbuster store as an import. It included both Badmotorfinger and SuperUnknown with "She Like Surprises." - --- So, there is hope. On the topic of worst song: come on, it's S o u n d g a r d e n!! Only degress of like, lust and love... not hate. On the topic of worst band member (yes, this is to Daniel Garrett): I'm impressed that you know Matt so well as to hate or dislike him. Personally, I reserve such judgments until I know someone personally. He is a wonderfully talented individual who deserves no less respect than any of the other band members. To Jeremy Crocker: Yeah... you're a real fan; always on the lookout for that illegal and bootleg stuff that is sold with no respect towards the band. It is album and concert profits which allow Soundgarden to swiftly produce another album. To TRLOFTUS@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu: You amaze me. Here's a quote from your flame, "...wasting your time on a useless mailing list where you here from the biggest shitheads in the universe..." I guess you were absent on the day they taught the difference between the words, "here" and "hear." You are so incredibly smart and socially above the rest of us I find it quite astonishing that the best insult with which you can come up is, "shitheads." You are the next Einstein, Crick or maybe even Hawking. As for musical and intellectual "rip off" bands: every band that you have ever listened to developed their style based on a previous talent, sometimes it has just been more obvious than others. Imitation is a mode of gratitude and respect. If you prefer the former rather than the latter, good for you, the world loves you for it. Personally, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and the likes, all had something that Silverchair, STP and others lacked (this is my opinion). It seems clear that Silverchair and STP were going for sounds that had already been established, which is fine, but they failed to bring enough of their own influence and musical intuition to make themselves able to stand alone. So, unfortunately, they get accused of stealing the souls of other bands (which I think is unfair). Well, I'm spent. I like the list. I don't mind hearing about bands I don't like. It's just part of the list's evolution. You'll survive!! Daniel S. Perry, southern California, USA. ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: fave/least fave list My least favorite Soundgarden song (I forgot who brought this up):... damn, this is hard... probably 'Tears to Forget'... I've never dug the sound of the vocals. Nice riff, rambling bass line, strong drum track.. I just don't care for the vocal line. Also 'Sub Pop Rock City' is awfully 'goofy' but I respect the creativity.. "I just wanna know what the heck's going on?" Any song that can go from a phone conversation to a funky mega solo.. heck, ya gotta like it (c: My favorite non-album song (thank you toy box man for the ACTUAL Soundgarden - -related subject): I'll pretend that Screaming Life & Fopp are each albums (c: Otherwise I'd say 'Kingdom of Come' or 'Hunted Down'... so: 'Cold Bitch'.. or maybe 'Fresh Deadly Roses' (yeah, I like that one. Wanna make something of it?) (c; Ya'll take care. UnknownMan frozen in UnknownWoman's heart... (c: No, I'm not talking bad about my girl, it just sounded cool. ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" while we're on this whole bass player thing, what about flea? and, though i hate to even bring up the name of this band, the guy from rush is pretty sweet too, even though it does rush no good. i still think sg's distinctive quality gets most of its uniqueness from chris cornell's vocals. no one, and i mean no one ever, can compare to the range and power that chris can produce, certainly not live. and the argument about noel redding being the best ever is kind of moot, because how can you really compare him to the likes of people like claypool and flea, where their instuments practically make up the sound of their bands, when redding was a side show, a second fiddle, a back-up noise to the greatest rock and roll guitarist of all time? in another setting, maybe he could have displayed his talents, but anyone could have backed handrix and still have been in one of the greatest musical threesomes of all time. ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Re: Ripoff bands are a figment of your imagination. On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Matt Harrington wrote: > Well, fellow Soundgarden fans, this would be my first post, so be gentle. > Although many of you seem to be upset with the amounts of postings > concerning other bands besides SG, I personally think that it makes > everything else more interesting. So here we go: > Silverchair is a ripoff band definately. I hear so much Soundgarden Blah blah blah blah blaaaah, blah blah blah... *snip!* > on SG will be too valid, because I only have Badmotorfinger and > Superunknown, but I'll try my hardest. > > -Matt It's generally not a good idea to go accusing two bands of ripping off others in your first post. I've listened to Soundgarden, Nirvana and Silverchair enough to say that there are a few songs between them that sound fairly similar, but there is nowhere near enough similarity label Silverchair a "ripoff band" as you so eloquently put it... You should also listen to "SMASH" a bit more before you go saying that Offspring are ripping off Nirvana, because there is little similarity between the two. Nirvana have a much wider variety of music on their albums, SMASH sounds like several arrangements of the same music with slight lyrical variations (still sounds good though :) Basically the deal is that these bands are influenced by each other to some extent... they aren't necessarily copying the other band. Anyway... welcome to the list, we look forward to having more contributions from Soundgarden fans on the net. (well, I do anyway... :) One Silverchair song I can imagine Soundgarden doing is Israel's son... It would sound really cool with Chris' voice... anyone else think so? (I wonder if Chris would object to singing a song written by a 16 year old?) See you around... - - Avatar ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Gotta love those antichrist songs! On Tue, 10 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > >I wonder why CC decided to record two reversed psychotic-sounding Satan > >worship tracks on the CD? I mean, it's not as though they were necessary > >or anything... > > Who was it...duh...oh well...someone said that it said "Santa!" so I checked > and it sounded like Santa to me. Any thoughts? > > Moon Druid > sounds like something chris would od to me ------------------------------ From: troll@interlog.com (Christopher S. Andrade) Subject: Re: Green River etc... >>O.K., here's what I know and only because I happened to hear about it yesterday on a Pearl Jam retrospect on a local radio station. If I remember hearing correctly, Green River was what ended up turning into MotherLoveBone. Green River broke up and Andrew Wood joined Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament to form MLB. Ben, Matt, and Chris were very good friends of the band, Chris actually lived with Andrew as roommates. When Andrew Wood (the lead singer for MLB) died, the remaining members went on their way. Stone, Jeff and Mike McCready Jammed together a lot but only instrumentals. They found this guy from San Diego through a friend and they formed Mookie Blaylock (band named after some basketball player, sorry, I'm not too up on my basketball), his name is Eddie Vedder. They opened up for Alice in Chains by that name and that was the show that got them going. Meanwhile, they were also recording this album with Chris, Matt and Ben called Temple of the Dog. Mookie Blaylock then became Pearl Jam named after some Jam that Vedder's grandmother used to make with a very highly potent herb of some kind. And the rest goes on from there... >> >>This is to the best of my knowledge, it may not be 100% accurate so please, if there is any error that you know of, feel free to correct me. >> >>>>***ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOTE (sorry to yell, but I had to get your >>>>attention): Here's a question for the die-hard SG fans in the audience: has >>>>anyone out there got the lowdown on Green River? If I'm remembering >>>>correctly >>>>(and I don't think I am) it was a band featuring members of SG and/or >>>>Mudhoney and/or MotherLoveBone. I don't know if they even released anything >>>>other than a single or two, but apparently they were one of those great >>>>collaborations that were going on in Seattle in the mid-to-late '80's (if >>>>only >>>>I'd known). *SIGH* >> >>>I don't know about Green River . . . but Soundgarden DID do a sort of >>>collaboration with Pearl Jam as Temple of the Dog (either Soundgarden or >>>Pearl Jam actually had a different name at the time . . . actually, maybe it >>>was Pearl Jam and Green River?) . . . but you all probably know all about >>>that already and I'm just wasting my time . . . sigh . . . >> > ******************************************************************************** crazy t.v. dreams might be true not what it seems. food and cavities, chewing words tear at the seams he don't feel so good, don't feel bad not that he should I don't feel so good, don't feel bad not that I should ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: RE: Erudite #9, 78,1 < Totally useless, but entertaining reply On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, BdMtrFngr wrote: > I wish that i understood this. For the life of me i cant figure it out. > > On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Kate Mercier wrote: > > > > > Hello-- Maybe your personal god's proper name is "Yahweh", but that > > doesn't mean everyone else's is. Please avoid trying to name my god. > > Thank you very much. > > > > Kate > > > > Maybe > > Some Religious crap by the sound of it... I know what to do... Buy yourself a blank cassette tape and a microphone... stick the tape into your stereo, plug the mic in and record the message onto the tape. Take the tape apart and flip the reels of tape around so that the reverse side of the tape itself faces towards the outside of the cassette. Reassemble the tape, stick it in your stereo and press Play |> ... This procedure effectively reverses the message. All will be revealed... :) - - Avatar... ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Re: Foppbomb On Tue, 10 Oct 1995 WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU wrote: > I don't know if it's still a topic but my most hated Soundgarden > song to date is Spoonman. I still don't know what mind altering drugs > the band was on when they wrote that piece. > > Have you heard Circle Of Power? I'm sure you'd change your mind afterwards. - - Avatar ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: hi there.. I need your advice on something. I plan on blowing close to a hundred dollars on Soundgarden bootlegs, I'll tell you what they are, please tell me, if you've heard these bootlegs, if they're worth buying: Stingray Supermainstream Violently Happy Stolen Prayers Reading '95 Any help is greatly appreciated. (Sorry this isn't a very SG informative post, but at least it gives us something to talk about.) - -Foreshocks ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Re: Gotta love those antichrist songs! On Tue, 10 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > >I wonder why CC decided to record two reversed psychotic-sounding Satan > >worship tracks on the CD? I mean, it's not as though they were necessary > >or anything... > > Who was it...duh...oh well...someone said that it said "Santa!" so I checked > and it sounded like Santa to me. Any thoughts? > > Moon Druid > Well, maybe it's about Christmas!!! Yeah, that's it. Actually, Beyond the Wheel is between 665 and 667... does this mean it is 666? The song of the beast? Aaaargh!!!! My head's started spinning and I'm drawing upside-down pentagrams on my bathroom mirror in goat's blood because I've listened to Beyond the Wheel too many times!! Hang on... No it hasn't, it's just an advertisement for the Exorcist... Phew! I think maybe Chris and the others just decided to put an end to the "theories" about rock bands being Satanic and give the evangelists something to rave on about... :) It's okay though, we all know these songs don't affect us at all... they can sing about Satan all they like and it won't make any difference! Oops, I gotta go now... I'm late for the Black Mass - - Avatar standing in a pentagram with a black candle at each point holding an upside-down crucifix and wearing a Santa hat :) He He... ------------------------------ From: troll@interlog.com (Christopher S. Andrade) Subject: Re: Bush question >BTW - What do all the SGers think of Bush? They aren't a bad band. I kinda like them regardless of all this talk of them being ripoffs of this band and ripoffs of that. Everyone will eventually ripoff a style. It's the sincerest form of flatery, but that's going off on another topic. Good band though. Also, useless tidbit of info here, but in Canada, the band is known as "Bush x" because long ago, there was a Canadian band called Bush and had a copywrite on the name. Band is non-existent now, and i've never heard of them (don't even know what kind of music they play that's how obscure they are) but they still hold copwrite. ******************************************************************************** crazy t.v. dreams might be true not what it seems. food and cavities, chewing words tear at the seams he don't feel so good, don't feel bad not that he should I don't feel so good, don't feel bad not that I should ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: Re: discovering soundgarden -- birth of a thread? From: Jamesetta Simpson >Yet the name 'Soundgarden' stuck to my cortex like an octopus in a Bugs >Bunny cartoon (it has a way of doing that), and in late '89 (Freshman year >of college) I happened upon Louder Than Love. Fandom struck. In summer '90 >I saw the band open for Danzig at University of Maryland, College Park. >(Was Jamie there?) Summer '90 - I was somewhere but, where who knows? I was just coming out of the fog that was the '80 - a freighting time for heavy metal/blues lovers. I hid most of the time - waiting for a new and glorious sound to come forth - - - - - - - - Ahhhhhh that sound coming from the Northwest part of the country, could it be, yes music - real honest to goodness music. May the lords of riffs and guitar smashing be praise - we have music again...... >SG as a metal band -- Sabbath with brains. Now their fan base was growing >out of "grunge cred," if there can be such a thing. Pissed me off. (I >couldn't even listen to Nirvana until shortly before the end, and as for PJ >-- I'll stick with Mother Love Bone, thank you.) A man who knows his music - Sammson you are my soul's voice speaking in the wilderness... >And let the (self-indulgent, though mercifully SG-related) thread begin. You have taken the threads of good sense and sew together a vest of good taste. Except on little rip in the fable - Did you really go to see a Danzig concert????????? Jamie PS: Love the phases -- my cortex like an octopus in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. Try this one -- stings the eyes like the tail of Pippie Le Pu. (and no I'm real sure that's not how you spell it - Pippie ....) PSS: Does this have anything to do with anything - Hell no - and I don't care, I can't sleep and shit happens. ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: GirlBomb At 08:31 PM 10/10/95 -0400, Chicka Jackeen wrote: >Question: What effect would it have on sg's music if CC is a womanizer? >Should that make you stop listening to the band? I mean sure, i would >think of that as a serious problem, but i'm sure many people listen to >other musicians who have serious problems. -j It wouldn't change my listening habits - I've already said that the personal lifestyles of the members are interesting but the reason why I'm into the band is because of the music... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 66] ***************************************