From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 7 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 13:21:44 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 7 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html **listadmin note: Here it is, folks. Sorry it's so late. I just got back. Today's Topics: Re: Joe & Sara's answers Re: Mature music? Re: Sara asking questions Re: The New Flame Rule... Objectable place Guitar Tabs Re: Guitar Tabs art Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics Re: Something different AND better Let's talk about Soundgarden F Reading 95 Chris Too Old? Pah!! Concert Perceptions Homophobic Chris?? RE: Kim...was he once a woman? Re: Something better. Sexual Ambiguity/SG & Velvet Underground? Re: Let's talk about Soundgarden Re: Something better. Re: Chris Too Old? Pah!! Re: Something better. Re: Something better. Something different. -Reply Face Pollution Re: your mail junk and stuff BdMtrFngr: Give the guy a break!!!! }:( Strings o' Cornell Grind Re: BdMtrFngr: Give the guy a break!!!! }:( Hey Everyone! Re: Something different. -Reply Re: Superunknown Cover Art... ARE they looking on? How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? Re: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? Fwd: Foolish Re: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? chill out new alice!!! RE: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? RE: Something better. Re: Superunknown Cover Art... Re: Fwd: Foolish RE: Fwd: Foolish Re: Australia Chris & Kurt Re: is CC Jesus' twin? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Joe & Sara's answers On 5 October 1995, Joseph A. Burnett wrote: >>to all the people arguing over ripoff bands, etc.........guess what! >>soundgarden has influences from Led Zeppelin, so, they're a bunch Led >>Zeppelin wanna-bes, right?................................ Then Sara Louise Hoeck wrote: >Just wanted to say that I agree. I hope everyone else does too, because it >is true if you think about it. Hey, that would mean that all my other >favorite bands are rip-offs too. That's sad. Now you ruined my day, Joe. >Just kidding. Talk to you guys later. -Sara I think this is the point I tried making a couple of months ago when Silverchair was slammed. Anyway, it's quite invigorating to see the same arguments debated by new people - gives us all fresh insight. Anyway, (& I'm another one who uses that word a lot!), let me hereby officially welcome you to the soundgarden mailing list, Sara. I like what you write and the way you put your views across. i.e. in an amusing & light-hearted way without shoving them down our throats. You also have a great attitude, and this sorts of attitude is fantastic at beating flame-throwers at their own game!! Cheers Carolyn the Music Freak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Mature music? On 5 October 1995, Dana wrote: >Some of the posts in the last few days make me laugh because I know exactly >how you feel....................... >The moral of this very long story is don't join them, beat them!! Three Cheers for Dana. That's THE best posting I've read on this list well, at LEAST since, um...........last week? Dana, I tip my hat to you - woops I'm not wearing one. doh! I know, I'll raise my glass to you tonight when I have my first drink for the weekend............ That was a damn good anecdote - more more MORE, peoples!! Carolyn the Maniacal Face ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Sara asking questions On 5 October 1995, Sara Hoeck wrote: >Hi, it's me again. I know I've written a million times today, but since >some of you do the same thing, I don't feel so bad. GOOD!! I am another Motor Mouth (or Motor Fingers here - hey that's another mf that I didn't even have to try & think of!!) and I like it when [at least a few of] us write a lot. Makes it easier to get to know people! >will probably have some stupid questions to ask, so can you guys just bear >with it? And if it is just the stupidest question you have ever heard, Sara, no questions that are asked for a reason are stupid. In fact, questions you ask are probably the same ones that others of us on the list want to ask but are just to scared to! So ask away!! And any flames you get, forward them to me & I'll deal with 'em. {did that sound tough enough??!!} Carolyn the [yeah you guessed it] Motor Fingers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: The New Flame Rule... On 5 October 1995, Moon Druid wrote: >Dear SOMMS readers, >....................I have read the rules for flaming, and I >agree with them. However, I don't agree with people that are willing to >flame, but not willing to post to the mailing list. If you plan on flaming in >the future, at least talk on the mailing list. You'll make more friends that >way, and you'll keep your faces from getting smashed in the next time we see >you. Yippie-Yi-Ay. Maybe YOU should be called The Man With The Plan!!!! In other words, Moon Druid, MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY. Carolyn the Mystery Face (thanks Seth) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Objectable place Dear List: ( and especially MoonDruid ): Some time ago, our friend druid wrote: "...talk on the mailing list. You'll make more friends that way..." I've been reading the list for several months (I think) now. Perhaps many of you don't even remember a single post from me. Why? As you can see, I live in Mexico a beautiful country but unfortunately all the SG news I get come from you, so I can never express myself on some matter because I don't have info to share, I may post regarding something on which I strongly desagree but that's it. Does that mean I won't have many friends on the list? I think mine is a painful situation. Isolated... URB@NO PD: I never flame nobody :^) ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Guitar Tabs (I guess you should have gone through this a thounsand times, but...) Seth, why don't you put a link in the web page to the soundgarden guitar tablatures, afterall, you wrote in your E-Mail form that you don't have them, so you must have had a lot of requests in the past. Please don't flame me. I know there aren't many tablatures but at least those are from Soundgarden. URB@NO ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Guitar Tabs From: seth > Seth, why don't you put a link in the web page to the soundgarden guita > r tablatures, afterall, you wrote in your E-Mail form that you don't have the > m, so you must have had a lot of requests in the past. Please don't flame me. > I know there aren't many tablatures but at least those are from Soundgarden. I'm working on it. I've gotten all of the tabs from ftp.nevada.edu (thanks Jeremy) and I'm currently in the process of formatting them. Many songs, like "Black Hole Sun," for example, have several versions of the tablature, each trancribed by a different person, so I'm trying to figure out a good way to index them. They WILL be done. Eventually. seth ------------------------------ Subject: art From: seth If you haven't checked out the art gallery yet, please do so. Both Dan Ladle and URB@NO have done some great stuff, and it's there for you to see. [I did a couple of images, too; I'm not really happy with them, but I put them up anyway] And please, I urge you to contribute. I'd be more than happy to keep you anonymous if for some reason you don't want to be associated with your work. I'll probably link the gallery to the homepage (unless any of you object) because it would be great if anyone who visits the page could send me their artwork, too. The gallery is at: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/contrib seth ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics > The official Soundgarden folks are working on the lyrics. > Seth told us SG web management hired an intern to REVIEW > lyrics as printed on the unofficial site. When they will > appear on the official page -- we don't know. If you'd like > to work on them anyway, I'm game. (Who's to say an intern > can listen better than we can, right?) If we do this, it > would be best to email our individual interpretation to ONE > PERSON ONLY to avoid clutter, and have that person send the > results/questions to the list. > > Vikki I'd be happy to take care of this. If anyone want's to participate send me (yes, Email) 'your' lyrical interp.s of 'Flower.' I'll wait a few days... see what I have & go from there. By the way, just 'cuz I'm not an 'elitist' -cough- doesn't mean I don't know what's going on. I've read every post for several months now and I, in my worthless little unelitist (new buzz word) heart/mind, feel that I'm as important as the all the other folks [ except of Seth... Seth for Pres 98! (c: ] here at the list. If anyone disagrees, I'm sorry. Mutes or people too. Side note: I have a gif.. or jpeg (something to that effect) & I'd like to send it to Seth, but I'm not sure how to 'code' it. If anyone could tell me how, I'd me ever so appreciative. And about Ty Cobb (the player): He until Lou Brock (if I recall correctly) was the major league all-time leader in stolen bases with 892 (but don't quote me on the figure.) Unknown Man in Red Slicker... (REALLY obscure Soundgarden allusion. Check out the 2-5-94 show for more info) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics From: seth > By the way, just 'cuz I'm not an 'elitist' -cough- doesn't mean I don't know > what's going on. I've read every post for several months now and I, in my > worthless little unelitist (new buzz word) heart/mind, feel that I'm as > important as the all the other folks [ except of Seth... Seth for Pres 98! > (c: ] here at the list. If anyone disagrees, I'm sorry. Mutes or people > too. Nobody on this list is more important than anyone else. Everyone has the right to post as much or as little as he/she wants, and those people who post more just tend to become friendlier (sometimes) with each other. But your opinion is always welcome here, and I value it no less than I value opinions that come from anyone else. > Side note: I have a gif.. or jpeg (something to that effect) & I'd like to > send it to Seth, but I'm not sure how to 'code' it. If anyone could tell me > how, I'd me ever so appreciative. When you compose mail in AOL, there is a little button that says "Attach File" or something like that. Just click it, choose the file you want to attach, and send me the message. > And about Ty Cobb (the player): He until Lou Brock (if I recall correctly) > was the major league all-time leader in stolen bases with 892 (but don't > quote me on the figure.) Cobb was definitely a record-holder. I think he's had over 40 major league records, but the batting average is the only one he still holds. But, it seems more likely that Soundgarden would deal with his cruel and self-destructive personality than the fact that he has the fourth most RBIs (1,961) in major league history. I'd be VERY interested to hear the new song... If any of you have seen the movie "Cobb" (which is a slight exaggeration of how things really were, but it approximates the truth) with Tommy Lee Jones, you know what I mean. seth ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Something different AND better Love it! See if you can hang on for a ride around my mind... >OK. Here's something a little more feasible than the cereal idea. What >about a Soundgarden Saturday morning cartoon? Hell, the New Kids on the >Block did it, right? I would definitely get up early to watch it. OK - Such a cartoon produced by one Jackhammer would be called SuperLouderMotorFopp and would be about a high school dropout fronting a band including a psychology graduate who recruit a bass player and drummer to start up a detective agency. But this is no ordinary detective agency: these guys have street cred and no-one picks them for the detectives they are, whilst producing incredible music as a brilliant cover! With plenty of musical interludes (eg. car chasing scenes to the tune of Rusty Cage) and Jesus Christ Pose in the background as they solve another mystery, this show would become a hit! Anyone else? >OK. This is a blatant attempt to break the animosity on this list, and a >silly one at that. I don't know why I thought of this, and I'm sure you >don't either. Anyways, here goes: > >If Soundgarden and Kelloggs teamed up to market a Soundgarden breakfast >cereal, what would it be like? Ok, here's my breakfast cereal. I'm calling it Superunhealthy (take the 'un' out if you're a health freak) >Some things to think about: > *Wheat flakes or puffed corn? Nup, a combination of fruit loops and coco pops for shape with plenty of sugar. > *Shape(s)? Suns (must be black with a hole through them), Limos, Waves, Mailmen, and a spoon and surprise included in every pack - well, spoonman and she likes surprises > *Marshmallows? Fruit? Nuts? Chopped steak? Marshmallows with little crutons (give the kids some fibre) > *Whose picture on the box? > *Prize inside (perhaps a rare import)? The Soundgarden Mailing List's Member Directory (all 300+!) should be included on all four sides of the box (ie. wrapped around) while if you send in five tokens, you get a autographed pin-up of the band free! Don't mind me! I'm sane! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: Peter Scott Subject: Let's talk about Soundgarden >From: lasiu@mojo.europe.dg.com (Liesl A Asiu) >Subject: Can this be done...? > >Attention Everyone! > >It seems to me that some of the messages we see flying around here are >really of no interest to anyone besides the two or three people involved. >Can we maybe think of who we want to reply to... ie the sender or the entire >group, before we send things off? This will cut down on the time wasted >trying to pick through the garbage to find something that is interesting, >not to mention related to Soundgarden! >I know we all think that what we have to say is important but come on.... >some of us want to stay in touch with fellow SG fans, but without having to >wade through a million messages that are really just a load of nonsense. I >mean, what would SG themselves say if they had to read the crap that comes >down this line? They would probably think we are a bunch of extremely sad >individuals. >Hey, some of you may think this is a bunch of crap........ >Anyway, if this keeps up, I'm afraid I will be just another unsubscribe >message soon. >El-Ay Here, here my friend. You've said what I've been thinking for a while. I recently posted some 'serious' questions about Soundgarden that I thought would have some impact on the list, but it wasn't to be. I did receive a very nice reply from Jamie stating she/he(?) liked my posting and was no doubt looking forward to the responses herself/himself. I did get a response to the film question - thanks, it's been bugging me for ages - and 'one' addition to the Soudgarden journey theme but that was it. Does that mean the other 247 of you really are more interested in everyone else's favourite drinks, top tens and whether or not Kim started life as a man or a woman, rather than talk about Soundgarden? Maybe there should be two lists; Soudgarden - the band and its music; Soundgarden - misc.crap (you can put this posting as the first entry!) Now, onto things Soundgarden-y. A few people have posted that they saw the band at Reading and they were boring.... I suppose you mean visually, more than musically. Could it be the 'sensible' hair cut that has sent Chris all moody and brooding? Well, come on, they're not getting any younger are they - I can't mosh like I used to! Kim has always been rooted (Tony Iommi-like) to the spot, Matt can't really go bouncing around now can he, Ben seems more interested in seeing how many positions he can contort himself into and Chris, well Chris as someone already mentioned, plays guitar now on virtually all the songs which obviously restricts his movements. The last time, and only time I have to confess, that I saw Chris crowd surfing was during the BMF tour of March 92, and even then it seemed like a token gesture rather than an impulse. The music is what is important and what emotions it stirs in YOU. EVERY time I've seen SG the crowd have had a good time - regardless of what the band were doing on stage. Forget Chris surfing etc, watching him take fifteen minutes to stretch his guitar strings half way across the stage and be awash in the feedback was far more interesting. ___ ___/ /__ /__ ___/| |__/ /__|/ / // Cheers /__// Pete Scott |__|/ ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: F Reading 95 > I dunno, Soundgarden seemed pretty happy when I saw their interview on > 120 Minutes.. and I was told that onstage at Reading Chris said > something to the effect of "I drank a lot of water, and I got diahhrea." > I would have laughed my ass off if I'd heard that for myself. Did Chris > really say that though? Can anyone verify this? > Thanks > -$ToLeN PR@yErS > > > > Whether they were happy in an interview on MTV maakes no difference to the fact that they played a wholly lacklustre gig. As for Chris mentioning diarroeha on stage I certainly never heard it and I was 5 rows from the front for the entire gig. He did apologise for missing last year and he said something about them flying by Aer Lingus but that was it. He did'nt even say "cheers, bye" whatever, they just sloped off stage. Oh whatever, nevermind - -- Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Chris Too Old? Pah!! > Well, wouldn't you know it.. when I finally posted info about SG at the > Sunstroke Festival, 2 of you had already beaten me to it. Where do you get > the time to keep so up to date on everything?! I didn't have time to read > the Digest for over a week, but I caught up on everything this afternoon & I > HAD to print out the post from John Grieves, re: Chris not being as young as > he used to be. I put it on the bulletin board in my office...everyone had a > good laugh over that one! CC is 31 and TOO OLD to get around on the > stage...we loved it...best post from the entire week! (Just out of curiosity > John...how old are you?) > > > > > I too laughed when I read this, its a little absurd to think that Chris is rooted to the spot on stage noe cos' he's past it, got brittle bones!! Look at Mick Jagger for F**ks sake!! I'd like to hear a better theory. - -- Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Concert Perceptions > > I'm responding to Daniel Garrett (and all others who were disappointed with > SG at the Reading Festival '95). Dan wrote: SG were a massive let-down, a > terrible anti-climax. They looked like they just came to take the money > and run. CC's voice sounded pretty ragged. They had no charisma, power, > sense of occasion, nothing. > > I was at that concert. It was outstanding from where I was standing (the > front row -- directly in line with Ben). The sound and Chris's voice were > flawless. Cornell's voice was effortlessly powerful and controlled and his > facial expressions and stance were arrogant and teasing. Ben was into it > too, definitely putting on a hysterically funny show -- flailing himself > about the stage as usual, making faces at us, etc. Cornell was confident > and laid-back and deservedly proud of himself. > > Thing is, we both love this band (same taste). We both were elated to be > there (same enthusiasm and expectations). What I'd like to know is where > you watched the show from (stage-right, left or center and how far were you > from the speakers). I've read drastically different reviews of concerts > from people who attend the same show and end up in either Shangrila or > acoustic-hell. > > I'm confused, Vikki :( > ??????????????????? > > > > Vicki, I was stage right, 5-6 rows from the front in the crush, from there it was just as I said it was, shame I was'nt where you were standing. Glad you enjoyed it though. Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Homophobic Chris?? On the subject of whether Big Dumb Sex has homoerotic overtones, could someone clarify that statement?? I clearly remember reading a review of a SG gig back in 92 where the reviewer said the gig was only marred by some anti-gay comments from our Chris, don't have all the details but I DEFINATELY read it, does any one know anymore about it?? - -- Daniel Garrett Stretch the skin over my head.... ------------------------------ From: Fan of SG Subject: RE: Kim...was he once a woman? I'm sorry guys, Kim is Indian. However, my point was that his name has origins which do not include kimberly. Plus, he is an awesome guitarist. mike ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Something better. OK im going to say this once and once only. Never, ever, compare soundgarden to the New kids on the Block. Soundgarden is one of the, if not the, coolest bands of all time;whereas the new kids were a bunch of dancing fairies. And that is why they had a cartoon, and that is why soundgarden shouldn't. On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, The Back Door Man wrote: > OK. Here's something a little more feasible than the cereal idea. What > about a Soundgarden Saturday morning cartoon? Hell, the New Kids on the > Block did it, right? I would definitely get up early to watch it. > > BDM > > "'Cause I heard it in the wind > and I saw it in the sky. > And I thought it was the end > and I thought it was the 4th of July." > --C. Cornell > > > ------------------------------ From: "Scott J. Schmidt" Subject: Sexual Ambiguity/SG & Velvet Underground? Thanks for the response, Jamie I thought maybe I had stepped too far out on a limb with my first post, but... October 5 I wrote: >>Yes, yes. I'll go so far as to say that some of us actually appreciate a >>little sexual ambiguity in our bands.... And I'm pleased that SG doesn't >>always sing blatantly straight material. October 6, Jamie responds: >Now does it really matter if a band is sexual ambiguity or not (love how that >rolls out your mouth - ambiguity)? Good music is good music and we all know >that SG makes good music. The "Rock Star" image has always been - I'm middle >of the road, but I could jump to either side in a heart beat. Case in point >David Bowie, Janis Joplin, the singer in REM (Michael ??? can remember right >now - I will as soon as I send this out). We were never told out right >that they were gay or not (really none of our business) - but didn't it >just adds more color to the artist. It does add more flava to the artist - absolutely. I grew up in Smallsville, Illinois (not its real name) where muscial tastes were pretty limited. If you were a teenage male you listened to AC/DC, Judas Priest, Quiet Riot, Ratt, etc. etc. Bands that hit you over the head with their straight lyrics. In the mid '80's there was only one "alternative" radio program I could hear - a half hour every Friday night on WXRT(?) from Chicago. I wasn't exposed to music that I could really realte to until I got to college. I guess the ambiguity is a sign of great lyric writing - I'm sure it's a hell of a lot harder to write a song that extremely different people can relate to equally well. But that's what great musical artists do - they transcend boundaries. And SG, aside from being musically unmatched (IMHO), have that transcendent quality too. And that's why I love 'em. Oh yeah, and CC is god (or is he Jesus?). OK, I'll step away from the podium now. >As for the Big Dumb Sex being on the gay side - I have been told this before >and I just can't see it. Maybe it's because I'm a women and to have Cornell >say these thing to me - - - well we all get the idea. I guess I'll just have >to ask one of my gay friends to listen to the song and tell me their >opinion. I'm sure that's just my own dirty mind at work. ;) >I do like Melissa Etheridge and her sexual preference is of no concern to me. >She has a powerful voice and her music can be interpreted as either gay or >straight, male or female. Her new video - something about Little Secret - not >sure on that only have seen the video once - check it out, if you >thought "Your the Only One" was racy - wait till you see this one. I'll keep my eyes open - we have 3 video channels on NYU-TV. I think I've seen the Crash Test Dummies cover of "Peter Punkinhead" one too many times (ARGH!). Love XTC, though! Here's a collaboration idea I'll just toss out there. Velvet Underground reunited last year for a while - maybe an SG/VU collab? It could be a logistical nightmare - and I don't know who'd supply the heroin - but it has possibilities, I think. Great potential for some excellent lyrics and dark, brooding arrangements. Could be too depressing, though. They'll have to keep the songs uptempo. Anyone? Scott ------------------------------ From: LAsiu@mojo.europe.dg.com (Liesl A Asiu) Subject: Re: Let's talk about Soundgarden >Now, onto things Soundgarden-y. A few people have posted that they >saw the band at Reading and they were boring.... >I suppose you mean visually, more than musically. Could it be the >'sensible' hair cut that has sent Chris all moody and brooding? Well, >come on, they're not getting any younger are they - I can't mosh >like I used to! Kim has always been rooted (Tony Iommi-like) to the >spot, Matt can't really go bouncing around now can he, Ben seems more >interested in seeing how many positions he can contort himself into and >Chris, well Chris as someone already mentioned, plays guitar now on >virtually all the songs which obviously restricts his movements. > >The last time, and only time I have to confess, that I saw Chris >crowd surfing was during the BMF tour of March 92, and even then it >seemed like a token gesture rather than an impulse. The music is what >is important and what emotions it stirs in YOU. EVERY time I've seen >SG the crowd have had a good time - regardless of what the band were >doing on stage. Forget Chris surfing etc, watching him take fifteen >minutes to stretch his guitar strings half way across the stage and >be awash in the feedback was far more interesting. > > ___ > ___/ /__ > /__ ___/| > |__/ /__|/ > / // > Cheers /__// Pete Scott > |__|/ > > > Pete, you and I seem to be on the same wave length..... Believe me with some of the notes the guy has to sing, it's a wonder he can even stand! I guess he could run around and get all out of breath just before he has to sing the chorus from Slaves and Bulldozers and maybe manage a small peep.... then we would all be complaining that his voice is washed up. Give the guy a break, folks. We all luv em really, don't we! Liesl ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Re: Something better. On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, BdMtrFngr wrote: > OK im going to say this once and once only. Never, ever, compare > soundgarden to the New kids on the Block. Soundgarden is one of the, if not > the, coolest bands of all time;whereas the new kids were a bunch of > dancing fairies. And that is why they had a cartoon, and that is why > soundgarden shouldn't. I couldn't agree more. Enough said. (this BdMtrFngr guy must be pretty cool. i wish i knew him) mike ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: Chris Too Old? Pah!! Referring to the live performance of the Superunknown material, Kim explains "the nature of the material isn't particularly visceral, like some of our earlier things are, where we can jump around and play wild and crazy. The material doesn't really lend itself to that; it's a little bit more introspective and contemplative, so it becomes silly for us to bounce around like circus clowns, y'know -- to be insincere." Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Chris Too Old? Pah!! Author: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) at nylanr01 Date: 10/6/95 10:17 AM I too laughed when I read this, its a little absurd to think that Chris is rooted to the spot on stage noe cos' he's past it, got brittle bones!! Look at Mick Jagger for F**ks sake!! I'd like to hear a better theory. Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: LAsiu@mojo.europe.dg.com (Liesl A Asiu) Subject: Re: Something better. Yeah, the only cool one that came slightly close Kiss with their comics - and even then I thought it was a pathetic attempt to scrape the last bit of change from the pockets of fans. I will stick to X-Men and that sort. Imagine Chris in a superhero outfit..... Noooooo! Liesl >OK im going to say this once and once only. Never, ever, compare >soundgarden to the New kids on the Block. Soundgarden is one of the, if not >the, coolest bands of all time;whereas the new kids were a bunch of >dancing fairies. And that is why they had a cartoon, and that is why >soundgarden shouldn't. > >On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, The Back Door Man wrote: > >> OK. Here's something a little more feasible than the cereal idea. What >> about a Soundgarden Saturday morning cartoon? Hell, the New Kids on the >> Block did it, right? I would definitely get up early to watch it. >> >> BDM >> >> "'Cause I heard it in the wind >> and I saw it in the sky. >> And I thought it was the end >> and I thought it was the 4th of July." >> --C. Cornell >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Re: Something better. > >OK. Here's something a little more feasible than the cereal idea. What >about a Soundgarden Saturday morning cartoon? Hell, the New Kids on the >Block did it, right? I would definitely get up early to watch it. > >BDM > > "'Cause I heard it in the wind > and I saw it in the sky. > And I thought it was the end > and I thought it was the 4th of July." > --C. Cornell >That's a cool idea! The New Kids on the Block cartoon sucked, but a Soundgarden one might be cool. Or else, they could just have live concerts every Saturday morning. Now that would reallly be great!-Sara > > > ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Something different. -Reply If Soundgarden and Kelloggs teamed up to market a Soundgarden breakfast cereal, what would it be like? Some things to think about: *Wheat flakes or puffed corn? *Shape(s)? *Marshmallows? Fruit? Nuts? Chopped steak? *Whose picture on the box? *Prize inside (perhaps a rare import)? What do you guys think? No flames, PLEASE! BDM <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< It's nice to know that at least a few of us still have a sense of humour isn't it. Dan ------------------------------ From: "HOLY O.J." Howdy! This has nothing to do with soundgarden, but I thought it was really wierd, soI figure I'll tell you about it. About a year ago I had a dream. I went to my refrigerator and opened it. There wasn't much in the frige, but there in the middle was a carton of orange juice. Somehow in that dream sense that we all have I knew that the O.J. was God. I had to take God with me somewhere, so I want to get some twine to tie the carton on the roof of my car(just try visuallizing this). When I came back the Carton was gone and now God was a live baby rabbit and a can opener. So the last thing that I remember is tying the rabbit and can opener together. Kinda strange huh? Anyway I am new here and I figured this would be a good way to introduce myself Neil "Holy O.J." Atkinson By the way I do think that Soundgarden Rocks, but then again so does everyone else here, so I figured I would write what I just did. ------------------------------ From: Michael Barnes Subject: Face Pollution Does anybody know what Chris is singing at the end of face pollution? Is it 'yeah'? Confused but happy, MB ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: your mail On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, HOLY O.J. wrote: > Howdy! > This has nothing to do with soundgarden, ...... Ok, letsd stop right there. The point of this list is to post things that deal w/ soundgarden. End of story. Don't ever post again (unless you plan to tell me something about sg that I don't know already! Ass Hole. ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: junk and stuff lo all---------first, i am curious to anyone who lives in the chicagoland area----for i am going to COD, and frankly, i have no friends there-----all my friends are scattered around the globe-------so, my weekends are spent behind this computer------and you know i love you guys------but there's other places i'd rather be this weekend.........so tomorrow, Material Issue is playing at NOrthern Illinois U.........its like four bucks.......i'm bored......someone talk to me.... Big JOe (since there's already a well established and vocal Little Joe on somms, i figure that makes me big joe.......) ------------------------------ From: gstanway@you.wincom.net Subject: BdMtrFngr: Give the guy a break!!!! }:( Hey, man... it was the guy's first fucking post and you're flaming him already?!?!?!?!? What the fuck is this all about? How the hell can you START a meaningful conversation if your response to someone saying hi is to tell them to fuck off?!?!?!? Jesus Christ... this list is more hostile than I thought... > Ass hole. Was this a comment, or your signature? It would be somehow fitting... You know, this list is more than a way for people to discuss Soundgarden... it's also a way to meet people with common interests. There are quite a few of us here who've become like family, and it isn't completely due to Soundgarden. Now Neil is new to this list, and one of his first greetings here told him never to post again, unless he had info on SG that BdMtrFngr didn't know. How the hell do you think he feels about that?!? Has it gotten to the point where we don't give a shit about how people feel anymore? Do you think Seth wants new folks with something to contribute to get chased off the list by careless, heavy-duty flaming? I doubt it. Neil, stick around. Some of us care, believe it or not. Glenn I'm also sorry to say that I'm starting to understand why people are unsubscribing. Unfortunately, I'm considering it, myself. ------------------------------ From: gstanway@you.wincom.net Subject: Strings o' Cornell Hey... anybody know what kind of strings Chris uses on his axe?? I'm pretty sure Kim uses heavy-gauge Ernie Ball Super Slinkys, but I don't know about Mr. Cornell... Glenn ------------------------------ From: gstanway@you.wincom.net Subject: Grind I've heard the new Alice In Chains single, "Grind", and I must admit that I'm impressed. I hope the rest of the new album is like this. :) The song pretty much mixes tones from Dirt and Jar of Flies, and it does it successfully! I can't explain it; you'll have to hear it yourself. Think SG will release any singles from the EP version of "Alive In the Superunknown"??? Glenn "May the sun never blind your eyes... Hear a sound from the voice inside..." --Alice In Chains, "Grind" ------------------------------ Subject: Re: BdMtrFngr: Give the guy a break!!!! }:( From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Way to go Glenn - we need more people like you and Neil Jamie >You know, this list is more than a way for people to discuss Soundgarden... it's >also a way to meet people with common interests. There are quite a few of us >here who've become like family, and it isn't completely due to Soundgarden. >Now Neil is new to this list, and one of his first greetings here told him never >to post again, unless he had info on SG that BdMtrFngr didn't know. How the hell >do you think he feels about that?!? Has it gotten to the point where we don't >give a shit about how people feel anymore? Do you think Seth wants new folks >with something to contribute to get chased off the list by careless, heavy-duty >flaming? I doubt it. >Neil, stick around. Some of us care, believe it or not. > > >Glenn > >I'm also sorry to say that I'm starting to understand why people are >unsubscribing. Unfortunately, I'm considering it, myself. > > ------------------------------ From: GntilGroov@aol.com Subject: Hey Everyone! Hey all you other Soundgarden-Lovers!!! Well, actually I'm quite new when it comes to getting into Soundgarden. My friend was the one who loves them and actually got me into them. And I'm sure glad she did. The most I would here of them was a few songs that got airplay, and did notice that I thought Chris Cornell had the MOST AMAZING vocals, and when i listened to louder than Love and BadMotorFinger, I LOVED IT!! I knew it was also the rest of the band and Chris who all together really do make a "sound-garden" of music. So, KEEP ROCKIN AND PLAY IT LOUD! A New SG Mail-List Subscriber ----Jessica--- ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Re: Something different. -Reply Thank you, Dan. Actually, let me re-type that in all caps. IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT AT LEAST A FEW OF US STILL HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR, ISN'T IT? Why the hell do some of you think I posted it in the first place? BDM On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Daniel Ladle wrote: > It's nice to know that at least a few of us still have a sense of humour > isn't it. > Dan > > "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: Superunknown Cover Art... >What is the significance of the cover art for Superunknown? To look at it > right side up, you see the "Screaming Elf" image (or whatever, forgive my > ignorance). Turn it upside down, and you see the silhouette of a forest > against a white sky, with flames(?) burning below. Remember...the WHOLE album is about dyslexia. You are right, it looks JUST like four guys, and flip it over and it's a forest fire. Absolutely right on BOTH ends. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: ARE they looking on? Ben said... >I wouldn't mind having a look. [If I were SG] I think that we're talking about a technology gap here. Primus would look onto their list...they're computer guys. SG, I dunno. Do you think that Kim, Chris, Matt, or Ben are computer junkies? Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? Just cuz I figured this may be intresting, what does your computer have on it that's SG related? I have the entire desktop as Chris and Kim with their guitars (sgguys1.jpg on the web page). A few wav's here and there, and I'm now looking for an icon and an animated cursor. Moon Druid ------------------------------ Subject: Re: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? From: seth > Just cuz I figured this may be intresting, what does your computer have on it > that's SG related? I have the entire desktop as Chris and Kim with their > guitars (sgguys1.jpg on the web page). A few wav's here and there, and I'm > now looking for an icon and an animated cursor. I don't actually have anything visible or audible that relates to Soundgarden. I have many, many directories filled with all kinds of SG-related material, though: discogs from several people all of the images currently on the Web page all of the images that have ever been on the Web page images that have not yet appeared on the Web page a ton of Photoshop files in various stages of completion a few WAVs an RA file (soon, Tom, soon I will get to this) Eventually, everyone will have access to most of this stuff (except the Photoshop files)... seth ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Foolish Heh heh...just thought I'd forward this to y'all. Anyone have something to say about this? Moon Druid - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: TRLOFTUS@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu To: MoonDruid@aol.com Date: 95-10-06 18:05:46 EDT I am not the dumbass who is wasting his money on america online. You are stupid. I am doing this for free through college so I am not paying a dime. You are fucking dipshit. You wish you had near the intelligence that I had because if you did like me you wouldn't be wasting your time on a useless mailing list where you here from the biggest shitheads in the universe. These people need to get out and you are one of them. You are probably some fat piece of white trash that has an negative IQ score. If it wasn't for the fact that I have a computer lab on this floor I probably would never use the internet You must be one of those desperate people who need someone to talk to so bad that you need the mail from hundreds of other losers like yourself. I hope you grow up, get a life, and seek help but right now you are a loser. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Just cuz I figured this may be intresting, what does your computer have on it >that's SG related? I have the entire desktop as Chris and Kim with their >guitars (sgguys1.jpg on the web page). A few wav's here and there, and I'm >now looking for an icon and an animated cursor. > >Moon Druid > > I have at lease 15 BMP of the band - some customized to my taste. I also have the silly little piece that comes with the Encarta software. And of course several *.wav for sound effects. Jamie ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: chill out On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, BdMtrFngr wrote: > Ok, letsd stop right there. The point of this list is to post things > that deal w/ soundgarden. End of story. Don't ever post again (unless > you plan to tell me something about sg that I don't know already! > Ass Hole. just chill out bdmtrfngr. seth has already posted about this matter. oj is gone, and thankfully, so is that thread. so don't worry about it. there's enough soundgarden here for everyone :) ps. did anyone write to jay davies about his unsub message? I did, and he really stuck it to me in his reply. anybody else had problems? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: new alice!!! i apologize in advance for posting without mention of sg (wait, i just mentioned them...nevermind) has anyone heard the new alice in chains track? i heard it on the radio (the edge in omaha, ne) several times today...evidentally someone at the station has friends in high places, because they played it before anybody else, according to my friend who does regional marketing for a competing station... anyway, the name of the song is `grind' and it's really good...different for aic, though...it's a really slow, heavy, plodding song with a lot of guitar noise going on...layne's vocals are phenomenal as usual, i think there's at least 4 voice tracks going on all the time...like i said, different for aic but after a few listens the song really grows on you...i have high hopes for the rest of the album, which i understand is coming out in a few weeks, correct??? well, let me know if you hear the song or anything else off the album...i'd like to hear what you think... ...later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: URB@NO Subject: RE: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? Well, since I've just installed Win95, I haven't 'dressed' it completelly. My Desktop has the Badmotorfinger cover as wallpaper, my system sounds include several "Yeah" samples from various songs, including a cry of "Outshined" instead of the awful ding. I assigned no Windows starting sound but every time I turn the computer on, the Autoplay feature plays my Superunknown CD. As for the Shut Down clip, I sampled the end of Mailman. I'm looking forward to replace the Windows95 logo that appears when you boot the 486 for som SG cover or photo. URB@NO - ---------- From: MoonDruid@aol.com Sent: Viernes 6 de Octubre de 1995 2:52 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: How decked out in Soundgarden is YOUR comp? Just cuz I figured this may be intresting, what does your computer have on it that's SG related? I have the entire desktop as Chris and Kim with their guitars (sgguys1.jpg on the web page). A few wav's here and there, and I'm now looking for an icon and an animated cursor. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: URB@NO Subject: RE: Something better. About the idea ofa Soundgarden cartoon, I think THE BAND (at least Kim) would never allow it ( Even less if once NKOTB did one). If anyone happens to have the June 1992 issue of Guitar World, read the interview made to Kim, Diamond Darrel (Pantera), Snake Sabo, Scotti Hill (both from Skid Row). There, the interviewer asked Kim that since he had been an avid Kiss fan, if he had liked the Marvel Kiss Comic book. I think the question is similar to the cartoon series. To quote Kim on that one, his answer was: "No. [I didn't buy it] Actually it kind of bugged me." URB@NO - ---------- From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Sent: Viernes 6 de Octubre de 1995 9:57 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Something better. > >OK. Here's something a little more feasible than the cereal idea. What >about a Soundgarden Saturday morning cartoon? Hell, the New Kids on the >Block did it, right? I would definitely get up early to watch it. > >BDM > > "'Cause I heard it in the wind > and I saw it in the sky. > And I thought it was the end > and I thought it was the 4th of July." > --C. Cornell >That's a cool idea! The New Kids on the Block cartoon sucked, but a Soundgarden one might be cool. Or else, they could just have live concerts every Saturday morning. Now that would reallly be great!-Sara > > > ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Superunknown Cover Art... Ok. can you please tell me why the whole album is about dyslexia? Thank you. On Fri, 6 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > >What is the significance of the cover art for Superunknown? To look at it > > right side up, you see the "Screaming Elf" image (or whatever, forgive my > > ignorance). Turn it upside down, and you see the silhouette of a forest > > against a white sky, with flames(?) burning below. > > Remember...the WHOLE album is about dyslexia. You are right, it looks JUST > like four guys, and flip it over and it's a forest fire. Absolutely right on > BOTH ends. > > Moon Druid > ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Fwd: Foolish Why the hell do you send crap like this to everyone? Isn't this list about soundgarden. On Fri, 6 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > Heh heh...just thought I'd forward this to y'all. Anyone have something to > say about this? > > Moon Druid > --------------------- > Forwarded message: > From: TRLOFTUS@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu > To: MoonDruid@aol.com > Date: 95-10-06 18:05:46 EDT > > I am not the dumbass who is wasting his money on america online. You > are stupid. I am doing this for free through college so I am not > paying a dime. You are fucking dipshit. You wish you had near the > intelligence that I had because if you did like me you wouldn't be > wasting your time on a useless mailing list where you here from the biggest > shitheads in the universe. These people need to get out and you are > one of them. You are probably some fat piece of white trash that has > an negative IQ score. If it wasn't for the fact that I have a > computer lab on this floor I probably would never use the internet > You must be one of those desperate people who need someone to talk > to so bad that you need the mail from hundreds of other losers like > yourself. I hope you grow up, get a life, and seek help but right > now you are a loser. > > ------------------------------ From: URB@NO Subject: RE: Fwd: Foolish BdMtrFngr: (And to the List) Perhaps it was wrong that MoonDruid sent a non-SG message, But if you hate this kind of crap, why the hell do you send 3 more? There are many quarrels about non-SG shit but this stupid kind of fights are the least SG-related posts on the list. C'mon people, let's put an end this awful situation. Posts arguing about non-SG material have become more than non-SG material itself. Let's put an end to it. URB@NO >---------- >From: BdMtrFngr >Sent: Viernes 6 de Octubre de 1995 9:31 PM >To: MoonDruid@aol.com >Cc: somms@MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: Fwd: Foolish > >Why the hell do you send crap like this to everyone? Isn't this list >about soundgarden. > >On Fri, 6 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > >> Heh heh...just thought I'd forward this to y'all. Anyone have something >to >> say about this? >> >> Moon Druid >> --------------------- >> Forwarded message: >> From: TRLOFTUS@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu >> To: MoonDruid@aol.com >> Date: 95-10-06 18:05:46 EDT >> >> I am not the dumbass who is wasting his money on america online. >You >> are stupid. I am doing this for free through college so I am not >> paying a dime. You are fucking dipshit. You wish you had near the >> intelligence that I had because if you did like me you wouldn't be >> wasting your time on a useless mailing list where you here from the >biggest >> shitheads in the universe. These people need to get out and you are >> one of them. You are probably some fat piece of white trash that has >> an negative IQ score. If it wasn't for the fact that I have a >> computer lab on this floor I probably would never use the internet >> You must be one of those desperate people who need someone to talk >> to so bad that you need the mail from hundreds of other losers like >> yourself. I hope you grow up, get a life, and seek help but right >> now you are a loser. >> >> ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: Australia > On 4 October 1995, Chris Mackenzie wrote: > >I am jealous of Australia. > > SEE, Moon Druid!! I TOLD you this is a cool, happening place down here!! > > Just think! If you have the Somms List Members Meeting Place Down Under, > you could all buy as many Soundgarden Superunknown albums with She Likes > Surprises on them as you want! > > C'mon, everyone, get down to this big brown land of > ours..................I'll even be your tour guide! > > Carolyn the Mystery Factor > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave > And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Australia? Come on you gave us Neighbours, Kylie, Mental As Anything and Prisoner CBH - cool??!! Sorry Carolyn only kidding, i'd love to come down to that big brown land of yours, are you paying??!! Daniel Garrett P.s. I don't understand why She likes Surprises is'nt on all formats of Superunknown, its at least the 2nd best track on there, although Chris does sound a little like Axl on the verse. ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Chris & Kurt Does anyone know what sort of friendship Chris may have had with the late, great Kurt Cobain?? They obviously knew each other coming out of the same scene and i know they liked each others band, Chris wore a Nirvana t-shirt a lot and Kurt said Soundgarden were an influence when he started out with Nirvana. Anyone got any gossip on this?? Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: James W Bonus <71023.2776@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: is CC Jesus' twin? On Oct. 5, 1995, Benjamin Jon Macqueen wrote: >Howdy, I know this may sound a tad pointless but I was just sitting at my >computer, trying extremely unsuccessfully to finish an essay that was due >in 2 days ago when a thought popped into my head. Does anyone think that >Chris looks a tad like Jesus, (yes, that's right, the Son of God and all >that jazz) on the inside of the Badmotorfinger cover? I'm not implying >that CC is God's nephew or anything (but he could be a distant cousin), >but I just thought it was interesting. > >Cheers >-Ben..... >-s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au > >p.s.-I hope I didn't offend any Christians on the list!? Offend any Christians? Are you kidding? We're furious! :) James ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 62] ***************************************