From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 5 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 01:10:42 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 5 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: CC's image change Suggestions Can this be done...? Superunknown Cover Re: O.J. Re: who cares?? -Reply hi. Collaborations contd ?Donde estamos? Musical Integrity Soundgarden faq? Opinionasia RE: Musical Integrity Re: Everything! My Story Re: O.J. Everything! Steve + Stacy + flames + opinions + new members Re: Top Ten Albums Re: ?Donde estamos? Flaming Bazookas Re: ?Donde estamos? Soundgarden - Gay Friendly? Re: POT USA's strings Tomorrow ROCKS Re: CC's image change Re: Musical Integrity Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises Re: Sara from Wisconsin Kim is Asian Re: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises jamie gathers no moss... Re: Superunknown Cover SOUNDGARDEN Kim Thayil's Bald Spot Tour? wednesday... Re:Best Lyric Re: jamie gathers no moss... Re: My Junk -- My Point is.. Re: Musical Integrity Re: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises art gallery Re: Tour? Re: SOUNDGARDEN Re: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises Mudhoney Epic...cool song...gotta get the disc Does Windows '95 really work? (Heh heh, just kidding) SOMMS Shirts Looking like you fave group... Hey, wait a sec...didn't we ALREADY go through this??? Stacy, Stacy, Stacy...we only have one of you...thank God LP LP LP LP LP!!!!! Why I'm on this list... Funny you should say that, C the MF Re: Nirvana in Pajamas Re: I'm being followed by a druid... Dream bash in Hawaii Heh heh heh...FREE THE JUICE!!! Getting some guitar tabs... Opinions on opinions Re: jamie gathers no moss... mouthful of cotton SMILE folks!! :-) is CC Jesus' twin? Re: opinions on opinions RE: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Daniel Garrett To: somms@MIT.EDU I was just writing to get others views on Chris and how between Badmotorfinger & Superunknown the guy has changed his image and stage behaviour to quite an extent. Obviously the major difference is his hairstyle, from having it shaved he's now got it in a curly "mop" style, he also does'nt seem to go on stage bare-chested anymore, plays guitar on almost all the songs (instead of half) and is basically motionless throughout the gig. This contrasts with how he was up to Badmotorfinger, he played up the Metal Sex God comparisons, long flowing hair, half naked on stage and in the videos and generally acting like he has ants in his trousers all the time he was performing. Is the reason for such a drastic change that he wants to be taken seriously as a singer/songwriter and not as some Rock Bimbo or is it that he just can't be bothered to give the whole rock performance anymore, has he got boring?? I only ask as I saw them at Reading and was well disappointed that the band (Chris esp) looked dead bored by the whole thing, played mostly the slow ones and did'nt seem to have the passion they had 2-3 years ago. Come on Chris go off your ead'!!! - -- Daniel Garrett She lived like a murder but she died................... ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Suggestions This is an open letter to everyone on the list, no flames involved, not directed at anyone in particular. Recent events on this mailing list have been a little bit disturbing to me... far too many flamethrowers are being used and as I've said before, you burn more than just the intended recipient. I am by no means perfect, but I'm sure a lot of people are after more than flames, and I think we're all above this, so can I put forward the following: 1. When offering your opinion on any topic, please think of the following: a. There are many who disagree with you b. Always give reasons for your opinion. c. Keep criticisms on the constructive level. d. Don't worry about anything, it's only a mailing list, even if it does involve Soundgarden! e. Throw flamethrowers in the bin, if you really have something personal with someone, contact them direct unless you REALLY think it involves the whole group. f. Most importantly, respect anyone's well formed opinion, PLEASE? 2. When criticising/applauding bands, please think about: a. Why do you (dis)like the band (be a little in depth, eg. "Mike Patton kicks ass" doesn't cut it!) b. Remember, there are people who (dis)like the band you're talking about for very personal reasons c. If you've only heard a handful of songs, don't make a rash statement. 3. People always have a delete button if your message isn't strictly applicable to them. A lot of people are on this list to learn a lot more about the world than just Soundgarden. I enjoy hearing how other people live, eg. through top ten lists, suggesting bands to listen to etc. etc. Be receptive to people's requests and don't get too irritated at all the requests for SG's new album/CD et. al. 4. Enjoy yourselves and learn a little. Be open minded! I'm not saying I'm above anyone, hell, I've only been on this list for a couple of months, but I've learnt a lot (but I'm still a LONG way behind!). I think it's great to be joined to such a list and I like the characters that have come through. Back to your regularly scheduled program...All opinions and suggestions gratefully accepted. Jackhammer, the (hopeful!) industrial strength flame retarder. ------------------------------ From: lasiu@mojo.europe.dg.com (Liesl A Asiu) Subject: Can this be done...? Attention Everyone! It seems to me that some of the messages we see flying around here are really of no interest to anyone besides the two or three people involved. Can we maybe think of who we want to reply to... ie the sender or the entire group, before we send things off? This will cut down on the time wasted trying to pick through the garbage to find something that is interesting, not to mention related to Soundgarden! I know we all think that what we have to say is important but come on.... some of us want to stay in touch with fellow SG fans, but without having to wade through a million messages that are really just a load of nonsense. I mean, what would SG themselves say if they had to read the crap that comes down this line? They would probably think we are a bunch of extremely sad individuals. Hey, some of you may think this is a bunch of crap........ Anyway, if this keeps up, I'm afraid I will be just another unsubscribe message soon. El-Ay Metal.... Motorbikes..... Madness!!!! ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Superunknown Cover Just wodering... What is the significance of the cover art for Superunknown? To look at it right side up, you see the "Screaming Elf" image (or whatever, forgive my ignorance). Turn it upside down, and you see the silhouette of a forest against a white sky, with flames(?) burning below. O.K., so I don't read a lot of music mags. Most of the info I get on SG and other bands comes from the lists. (Read: Please don't flame me.) Anyone? Greg ****************************************** *** Sieze the day. *** *** Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. *** *** And watch the rolling heads. *** ****************************************** *** greg@sfa.com *** ****************************************** ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: O.J. > > > >12:30 The O.J. Verdict Preview > > 1:00 Live coverage of the O.J. Verdict > > 1:30 Live coverage of the L.A. Riots > > > >Waiting on the edge of my seat... > > > >Greg > > I'll just be glad to not see my family name flashed around the world (and in > such a discussing manner). > I think all of them (judge, attorneys, members of the press, etc) are guilty of > poor taste. > > Jamie > PS: Steven - Steven - Steven > > > Well we all know the verdict now, I would just like to say it is pathetic, the guy deserved to rot. - -- Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: who cares?? -Reply In fact, Isn't it wrong to judge anything or anyone on their sexual preferences, food they eat, where they come from, or how they live their lives. As oppose to just judging bands this way. Love from Dan ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: hi. A couple of things.. first of all, has anyone heard Inflatable Soule? I guess it's made up of all Chris Cornell's brother and sisters, and judging from Chris's musical talent.. if that runs in the family, they've gotta be good. I'm new to this mailing list, so you might have discussed this before: does anyone have any cool Soundgarden stories? Like "I saw Soundgarden and Chris Cornell jumped into the crowd and HE TOUCHED ME! GOT SWEAT ALL OVER ME! IT WAS GREAT!" =D I'm dying to hear some experiences like this. If you've discussed them here before and you don't wanna put the other mailing list subscribers through torture by making them read your once-in-a-lifetime Soundgarden experience again but would still like to share, email me at foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com I've got one of those experiences myself... but unfortunately it has a sad ending =( I'll tell you some other time as right now I'm hungry and wanna go make pizza... cya - -=*< Love's like suicide. >*=- - -Chris Cornell ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (my lil quote thing.. isn't it sexy) - -Foreshocks ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) To: somms@MIT.EDU Well, I gotta say it, it feels good to be wanted, if only just a little bit. I also want to say, that I too, own both the Stone Temple Pilot albums and I think they're quite impressive. I don't really care that they might just sound like somebody else, I've not actually noticed this myself, but let's face it, how many songs have you heard that sound like others? I don't consider anything to be original, just the collaboration of many influences moulded into one, and they're usually very distintive, as is possibly the case here. Songs like "Creep" and "Sex Type Thing" I consider very interesting songs, and if anyone's heard "Kitchenware & Candy Bars" or "Big Empty" from the second album I'm sure it might change a few opinion. As for Steven Russel Jr.'s comment, it might just be easier to say "I don't like them" because "NO talent copycat rip off artists" is somewhat unfair, if you're gonna say something like that, then you really do need to justify it. Did anybody go to the Reading festival? My friends just got back and she said Soundgarden were very "average". It seemed like they just turned up, played because they had to, and left. Did anybody else think this? I don't consider myself abusive Little Joe, just someone capable of opinion and willing to voice it, if you don't like it, you don't have to read my mail. Like somebody said, I know I can't get my face on the cover of Rolling Stone, believe me, I've tried, but does that mean my opinion is any less than someone who might get in there? I mean after all, why should fame make an opinion more important than another. The points I make I consider valid, because you don't agree with them doesn't make it invalid, somebody DID actually agree with my "Seattle Top 10" comment, so how invalid is it now? If you don't agree, say so, but please don't make a statement for everyone else on this list. Oh yeah, and to set the record straight, it's Mr. ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Collaborations contd Gettingf back to the rapidly boring subject of collaborations!! May I put my suggestion in? It always struck me that Fresh Tendrils sounds just like the type of song Kate Bush would sing, now i'm not particularly a big fan of Miss Bush but i'd love to hear an acoustic duet of aforementioned song with CC. Anyone agree or am I as mad as i'm told??!! - -- Daniel Garrett Give me little bits of more than I can take................... ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson) Subject: ?Donde estamos? Someone (I think it was Chicka J.) asked where one might find a good place to sell/trade CD's. The search parameters are a little broad, geography-wise, don't you think? It occurs to me that the only person who has revealed his location explicitly is Mr. Listadmin -- from whose house I am now within walking distance (but I ain't sayin' nuthin' more). From what I've gathered there are people here from Australia, England, Mexico, Cleveland, Buffalo, Chicago, possibly North Carolina, possibly Missouri, and Cambridge, MA. I can only tell you what I know - and I don't know much - but I can hardly conceive of a greater concentration of buy/sell/trade/used/new/"import" CD shops than there is between Harvard and Central Squares in Cambridge, MA. I count six within a five block stretch of Mass. Ave. So if you're in the Boston area for a visit, this is the place to go shopping for all your bootleg needs. Second Coming Records is the place to start. From the Massachussetts Chamber of Commerce to you, via me. By the way since it's the distribution center of the mailing list and home to at least two of us (I ain't sayin' who), the logical site for any gathering is obviously Cambridge. I ain't sayin who, but it wasn't me. ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: Musical Integrity First, those of you that have been moaning (bitching) about the lack of soundgarden comments in this flame war over musical integrity. Please delete this message now. It is not intended for you. go back to work. > As for Steven Russel Jr.'s > comment, it might just be easier to say "I don't like them" because > "NO talent copycat rip off artists" is somewhat unfair, if you're > gonna say something like that, then you really do need to justify it. NO talent copycat rip off artists is a completely fair statement to make about STP. Why did they suddenly appear in 1992 copying a musical style that just became popular. Where they playing this style of music before Nirvana broke? NO! They were just another shitty butt rock band out on the streets trying to make a nickel. Yes!! Then Nirvana and Pearl Jam hit big....so they figured....god we can sound exactly like that. (Note grunge isnt the hardest style to play. It's almost like the liverpool explosion of the early 60's. All you need to play it is some instruments and the look). Butt, these idiots in STP came out saying they were grunge before grunge was grunge. They also made the idiotic statement that "we arent copying anyone...we've always looked like this...and sounded like this since we formed". come on. They heard the first notes of Pearl Jam's "alive" and soundgarden's "flower", put on their flannel shirts and said we can do this...but we're not that talented right now. We're gonna have to steal there musical style note for note. That's were the money is. Then when the major label's come a courtin, we'll get a record deal...because back in late '91 if you sounded even remotely like a seattle band...you were signed. My problem with STP is...they never told the truth about their beginnings. it was all fabricated lies by them and the record company in order to swindle the consumer to buy into the latest fad. Is it possible for them to actually make a great album? yes. Will they ever do it? no The backlash against them is so strong (cept in this mailing list) that there next album will mark the beginning of the end for them..because their lack of talent is starting to show (the only band that can continue to sell records without changing 1 oz. of their sound is AC-DC). Think Weiland suddenly developed a heroin habit because he has a chemical imbalence in his neurons...NO.. he developed the heroin habit because he thought to gain creativity in the music world, one must live the life of a junkie. As sad as it is...most (not all) of the great writers/musicians of all time have been under the influence of something. from rupyard kipling to kurt cobain. That friends is plain stupid. It also signifies the end of Weiland and STP. Feel free to email me and "JUSTIFY" STP's place in the musical world. You havent given me a shred of evidence to "justify" their musical superiority. Integrity means alot to me in the music biz. Soundgarden has it...STP doesnt. As for Silverchair. They are a bunch of immature 15 and 16 year olds (actually all 15 and 16 years are immature. this is a statement of fact) that have learned to copy a style of music. I'd like to see them grow into talented musicians. But they are just a record company creation at the moment. Do you think for one instant that they would of won that contest (that supposably launched their careers) in australia if the lead singer didnt look exactly like kurt cobain or if they didnt sound exactly like PJam or Nirvana? They are just cashing in your parents paychecks by copying a popular style. There is nothing wrong with this if your're still getting an allowance from your parents. But in the real world...this is a major turn off. If you think their style of music is superior to (pick a seattle band)..you probably feel that McCauley Culkin should of won an oscar for his work in _Home Alone_. ps. spell my fuckin' name right. Steven "you look like you've been losing sleep", said the stranger on a train I fixed him with an ice-cold stare and said "I've been having those dreams again" - Swervedriver ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Soundgarden faq? There's a Soundgarden faq? Could someone send it to me? - -=*< handing out these feelings over my soul that cannot be >*=- - dealt with - - -Jeremy Ray ^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ From: Askairi Williams Subject: Opinionasia Hey guys , what is going on ? This list is on E-mail so we can , and I do stress the word "can" say whatever the hell we want to . I strongly , check that , vehemently agree that some things are a little hard to discuss ( ie SG is shit by you know who ) and some that are worthy of discussion ( ie the kind of guitars and drums , etc that SG uses ) . I think that being afraid of the flame should not keep one's opinion from being known . Fellow Gardeners , speak your mind so that we will not be forced into censorship based on the opinions of the majority . Do not apologize for what you said but rather for how it was misconstued or misinterpreted . Take the following example : Let's say that someone in the band SG thought that they were shit . Chances are that it ain't going to happen , but let's say that it does . Will they get flamed for their view of themselves ? Of course not . Why ? Because of who they are . This just goes to show you that everything deserves to be put to a test and that all opinions , even those that are mundane , silly or even about PJ . With this I implore ya'll ( you really can't tell that I am from Texas can you ?) to go and be free to say what you want . And to all of ya'll , speak your opinion even if it is a flame . And to all who get flamed , keep on coming because if the flamers got the gas to flame then you too can put out your own opinion . The day I tried to live , I found out I got flamed I wallowed in the jelly and grease , And I learned that I was a breakfast ...... College Boy ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) You know what, I was feeling kinda happy today, but fuck it, Steven Russell Jr. I think I'll just tear you to pieces. Flamethrower on, I love myself, I really do. Okay, it's a very fair statement, this "NO talent copycat rip off artist", I mean, yeah, it's kinda catchy but unfortunately I don't agree. I really am very disapointed in your ability to judge music, with comments like "grunge is not the hardest style to play" and "all you need to play it is instruments and the look". Where the fuck do you come in on the scale? Is it that easy that your very own band are riding high on the current music scene? Nobody said anything about "superiority", they are your own compositions, they just happen to be a band I like, and in my opinion, no better or worse than any other, I haven't actually noticed any resemblence to any Pearl Jam or Nirvana record, but then again, I'm not going to compare them. If your record collection evolves around musical integrity it must be a very small collection, it's kinda hard finding something original these days, although I did once see a band play using only the most distasteful bodily noises, quite unique I thought. I think you might of been better with the one I gave you, the "I don't like them" one, because in all honesty, you talk a fair amount of shit. ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: RE: Musical Integrity I totally agree with Steven. While it is important to mention that STP intr= uduced several new chords and manners of playing (that just goes for Dean D= eLeo, the guitarrist), we must face that they're copying a style which at t= he time (and , hell, still now) was very popular. List, we have to accept t= hat without having copied the Seattle Sound they would have never topped th= e charts. = Once, I had a band. We used to write several semi-grunge songs. After a whi= le, we realized that there was no point in copying a style which was not ou= rs, even more if it wasn't from our country. After a while the band broke-u= p. That is why I definitely think that STP feels their hour is coming, they= won't last much. Enlightened daily by the sun... URBANO - ---------- From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Sent: Mi=E9rcoles 4 de Octubre de 1995 8:10 AM To: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Musical Integrity ------------------------------ From: nf46714@goodnet.com Subject: Re: Everything! > I am a proud owner of; Screaming Life, FOPP, Ultramega OK, Loudest Love, Louder > Than Love, Badmotorfinger, SuperUnknown (with She Likes Surprises), > Spoonman single CD (with Jesus Christ Pose and Beyond the Wheel, live), > Spoonman 12" single on clear vinyl with Exit Stonehenge, the SuperUnknown > LP on 2 orange vinyls and a poster by a man named Frank Kozik > To make a long story short... > I touched Chris Cornell. YES, TOUCHED!! Skin to skin. You own so many albums, AND you've touched Chris! You're a true fan, and my fucking hero. **Everywhere is in walking distance if you have the time** ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: My Story Ok, it goes a little like this. Picture it: Rochester, 1994. The day was June 14th, two days after Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman were found dead outside a condo in California. I couldn't care less about that; I was going to see SOUNDGARDEN. I was in Rochester, and I had a hundred dollars in my pocket, reserved exclusively for T-shirts. I was only 15 at the time, and I didn't know anyone of driving age that would drive 220 miles to see Soundgarden (I live in Albany), so my dad drove me. (Thanks Dad! The best experience of my life.) Thank god he didn't insist on going into the concert with me... being young sucks. So I left my house pretty early, because it was a long drive to Rochester. I ended up getting to the War Memorial (where Soundgarden was playing) around 3. I didn't feel like sitting in the car for four hours, so I went for a little walk around the War Memorial. I walked up the side past a few tour buses, and all these big burly asshole security guards (I HATE security guards) were standing around in yellow shirts. I walked past a tour bus and one of these security guard dudes held out his hand to keep me from going further down the sideawlk. So I stopped and this woman in a business suit got off the bus.. I'm not sure who it was but I believe it was Susan Silver... so then after she got off the bus and I walked up the sidewalk and then turned around and walked back down and something made me stop dead in my tracks: Who else was I staring at twenty feet away getting off one of the buses but Kim Thayil? I almost shit my pants. I stood there, simply drooling. Then I completely forget what happened for the next minute (I think I blacked out or something) but then I saw the back of Kim walking side by side with CHRIS CORNELL into the War Memorial... and I'm still kicking myself to this day over this.. I WAS TOO CHICKENSHIT TO SAY ANYTHING TO THEM!!! ARG!!!! I was afraid Kim and Chris would be pissed off by autograph hounds, I'd never met someone who I held in high regards like Soundgarden before and I was terrified. Plus, I was scared to death of getting my ass kicked by those asshole security guards if I approached them. Oh.. BTW.. The outfit I saw Chris wearing when he was walking into the War Memorial with Kim.. this flannel shirt... well, he was wearing the same thing on the Headbanger's Ball Soundgarden guested on right after thay played New York City. I dont know why, but I think that's kind of cool. I KNOW I KNOW I'M A TOTAL IDIOT FOR PASSING UP SUCH A GREAT CHANCE! I'M STILL KICKING MYSELF FOR NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO CHRIS AND KIM! ARG! I'll always remember that day though.. "The Day I Shared A Sidewalk With Soundgarden Just Before I Saw Them Play And Totally Rock The House And Damn I Was Too Chickenshit To Say Anything To Chris And Kim (SIGH)." p.s. Did anyone like the reference to the Golden Girls at the beginning? I love that show.. - -Foreshocks ------------------------------ Subject: Re: O.J. From: seth > > >12:30 The O.J. Verdict Preview > > > 1:00 Live coverage of the O.J. Verdict > > > 1:30 Live coverage of the L.A. Riots > > > > > >Waiting on the edge of my seat... > > > > > >Greg > > > > I'll just be glad to not see my family name flashed around the world (and i > n > > such a discussing manner). > > I think all of them (judge, attorneys, members of the press, etc) are guilt > y of > > poor taste. > > > > Jamie > > PS: Steven - Steven - Steven > > > > > > > Well we all know the verdict now, I would just like to say it is pathetic, th > e > guy deserved to rot. > -- > Daniel Garrett This discussion ends NOW. This is about as far from Soundgarden as any topic could be. Come on people, there are plenty of places on the Net to talk about OJ, but here is not one of them. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: "Daniel S. Perry" Subject: Everything! Well, this is my first submission after months of voyeurism (if I spelled it wrong... I don't want to hear a word from anyone!!) Just a few thoughts on some of the things being said and my Soundgarden experiences... I am a proud owner of; Screaming Life, FOPP, Ultramega OK, Loudest Love, Louder Than Love, Badmotorfinger, SuperUnknown (with She Likes Surprises), Spoonman single CD (with Jesus Christ Pose and Beyond the Wheel, live), Spoonman 12" single on clear vinyl with Exit Stonehenge, the SuperUnknown LP on 2 orange vinyls and a poster by a man named Frank Kozik of a Pearl Jam (whoopee-fricken-doo) and Soundgarden concert... great fucking poster! I had the pleasure of seeing Soundgarden at Lollapolooza 1992 (Irvine Meadows, CA) and at the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles (1994). For the 1994 tour I had purchased balcony seats but swindled my way onto the floor with a wristband and everything. To make a long story short... I touched Chris Cornell. YES, TOUCHED!! Skin to skin. He jumped off the stage to yell at some idiot with a flashlight... there, 2 feet before me stood Chris Cornell, I could not control my arm, it moved towards him through no volition of my own. I have lived a complete life (I'm 23). I will take up no more of your time. Thank you. God (Chris) be with you! ------------------------------ Subject: Steve + Stacy + flames + opinions + new members From: seth Okay, this whole Steve versus Stacy fight has gone far enough. The two of you obviously have irrenconcilable differences in your opinions about the right to judge music. Well, fine. So be it. This is, however, sometimes a Soundgarden list. While there is a small core of us who have become almost like "family" (I guess around 10 of us), I doubt that the other 279 subscribers want to hear us bicker endlessly like sibling rivals. I'm not saying you shouldn't flame people; as has been pointed out, flames are sometimes interesting. But a fight like this between two people really should be kept between those two people. Hey, if you don't agree, flame me. Send your flames to ME. Everyone has the right to his/her opinion. It's only when you come across sounding like your opinion is the _right_ opinion that it begins to get on the nerves of the other list members. People, just be cool. Relax. Attention new subscribers: don't be scared off by all the oldtimers with flamethrowers. Please post. Post something about Soundgarden. Hey, I hear the position of listadmin is opening up...anyone interested? Just kidding, of course. I wouldn't trade this for, um, the world. seth ------------------------------ From: roetrl17@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu Subject: Re: Top Ten Albums Just wanted to say that there are other Violent Femme fans in the world. I saw them in Milwakee (the same place where I saw SG ) and they sincerly kick ass. Randy On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > Carolyn, it makes me happy that someone put Violent Femme's first album > on their list. And you put it at the top. I mean how socially > acceptable were those lyrics in the early eighties? Not very, in my > opinion. Which increases my love for their music. But the reason i > like it is because it is so honest. "Promise" is just so me i was in awe > the first time i heard it. -j > > ***************************************************************************** > "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" > -"Plowed" by Sponge > ***************************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: ?Donde estamos? From: seth > I can only tell you what I know - and I don't know much - but I can hardly > conceive of a greater concentration of buy/sell/trade/used/new/"import" CD > shops than there is between Harvard and Central Squares in Cambridge, MA. I > count six within a five block stretch of Mass. Ave. So if you're in the > Boston area for a visit, this is the place to go shopping for all your > bootleg needs. Second Coming Records is the place to start. I would have to agree. I got the "Louder than Live" promo 12" from Second Coming Records. I got two 7" bootlegs at In Your Ear Records. I think I got my second copy of Badmotorfinger/SOMMS at Second Coming. I got the "Jesus Christ Pose" 12" with poster sleeve at either Looney Tunes or Second Coming. I've never quite been able to afford bootlegs, but they are plentiful around here. > By the way since it's the distribution center of the mailing list and home > to at least two of us (I ain't sayin' who), the logical site for any > gathering is obviously Cambridge. As well as being the former and original home of the unofficial Soundgarden Web page. It's settled, then. The great mailing list member gathering will be held here, in Cambridge. What are you people doing this weekend? seth ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Flaming Bazookas Miss Myrick, I have brought all of my fucking flamethrowers and Bazooka out of retirement to evicerate you, because I am in a bad fucking mood and because I feel like it. >You know what, I was feeling kinda happy today, but fuck it, Steven > Russell Jr. I think I'll just tear you to pieces. Flamethrower on, > I love myself, I really do. Haven't you read the comments on decreasing the animosity on this list do you have a life or what? You obviously have nothing better to do than to irritate people. Good thing you love yourself who else does? >Okay, it's a very fair statement, this "NO talent copycat rip off > artist", I mean, yeah, it's kinda catchy but unfortunately I don't > agree. I really am very disapointed in your ability to judge music, > with comments like "grunge is not the hardest style to play" and "all > you need to play it is instruments and the look". Where the fuck do > you come in on the scale? Is it that easy that your very own band are > riding high on the current music scene? Nobody said anything about > "superiority", they are your own compositions, they just happen to be C'mon any idiot knows that if you get a bunch of MTV friendly guys in flannels, playing what the call "alternative music" or just portraying the generic "Grunge" look and the right publicity the band will probably go far. > a band I like, and in my opinion, no better or worse than any other I > haven't actually noticed any resemblence to any Pearl Jam or Nirvana > record, but then again, I'm not going to compare them. If your Do you have fucking ears or do you just talk shit on this list for the fuck of it. You must get off by saying the opposite of what everyone else says, the first time I heard the Stone Temple Pilots i though they Were Pearl Jam. The first time most people heard Stone Temple Pilots they thought they were Pearl Jam. What the fuck are you talking about "I.... haven't noticed any resemblance" they are a commercial fake ripoff band, Pure and simple. Sure I even like some of there songs but respect them as artists? Hell no. > think you might of been better with the one I gave you, the "I don't >like them" one, because in all honesty, you talk a fair amount of shit. yes and your full of it. You obviously have nothing better to do than to be an annoyance. The purpose of this list is to discuss soundgarden to draw paralells between them and other bands. Trade bootlegs, discuss songs that we would like to see them do etc. You need to fucking realize that if Steve started the top ten list and set the criteria for it that is his fucking perrogative. So what don't you please shut the fuck up. Any idiot with half an ear can hear the shit stp ripped of From Pj and Aic. So please stop writing your constant bullshit messages. Your filling my mailbox with shit and it's beggining to smell. P.S. Your opinion isn't worth 1/1000000000 of Chris's Kim's Ben's or Matt's the write and perform the music. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: ?Donde estamos? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >> By the way since it's the distribution center of the mailing list and home >> to at least two of us (I ain't sayin' who), the logical site for any >> gathering is obviously Cambridge. > >As well as being the former and original home of the unofficial >Soundgarden Web page. It's settled, then. The great mailing list >member gathering will be held here, in Cambridge. What are you people >doing this weekend? > >seth Well there is a party plan for my house this weekend, but I would gladly cancel it and come to Cambridge. Any possibility of our wonderful boys being there? Seth, I hope your house is big enough. Jamie BTW: Surly I'm not the only one from the Washington, DC area that loves Soundgarden and is a member of this list. Love to hear from ya. ------------------------------ From: "Scott J. Schmidt" Subject: Soundgarden - Gay Friendly? Um, hello. This is my first post, so please bear with me if I muss it up somehow. Jackhammer wrote: >And for goodness sake, lay off Kim being a woman in a past time - it would >be much like finding out that one of the band members is gay --> to me, it's >interesting, but it wouldn't affect any of my views on their music Yes, yes. I'll go so far as to say that some of us actually appreciate a little sexual ambiguity in our bands. It's rare to find a band that's comfortable enough to be blatantly queer-positive (like, for example, Pansy Division). Considering the potential impact on their financial success, I can't really say that I blame them. But we FOD's take what we can get. And I'm pleased that SG doesn't always sing blatantly straight material. Am I the only one, or is "Big Dumb Sex" more than just a little gay-friendly? While I'm here, on the topic of Seattle bands, has anyone out there ever heard of Flop? I've seen 'em live a couple of times - talk about energy! Fast, rockin' songs, not quite in the same vein as all the other Seattle bands. Also, how about the Posies? Actually, they're from Bellingham, WA (which is where I went to undergrad school). Also not your typiceal run-of- the-mill Seattle band. Oh, and one more thing. CC is a god. Scott Struggling NYU Law Student ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: POT USA's strings In a message dated 95-10-03 11:48:24 EDT, toybox@email.unc.edu (Chicka Jackeen) writes: >Um, i think it was you, md that was talking about punk being easily >played on a three string guitar. I don't know, A5 and D5 can be pretty >tricky chords sometimes..... Hmmmm...that's true. Punk is power chords though, it's good, and I'm not discrediting it, because it's an entire style of music, but it's a lot simpler to actually play the chords than what Kim has to go through. Of course...punk is played fast and hard, maybe faster than grunge most of the time. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: aae831@Waldo.Angelo.Edu (Greendoc) Subject: Tomorrow ROCKS What is the deal about ragging all over Silverchair and STP? Anyway, back to my subject, STP may have no talent, but the music sounds good to me. Back to what I said yesterday, I don't care how much talent a band has, as long as it sounds good. Don't get me wrong, I don't idolize Silverchair. I've heard a couple of their songs and think that they are OK, but nothing special (except for Tomorrow). If you don't like it, don't buy it, and for god's sake, don't cover this SOUNDGARDEN mailing list with gratuitous crap about it. Greendoc P.S. I am afraid that I have not caught all these references between Silverchair and Nirvana (do you dare speak such blasphemy as to find likenesses?), but I do see the E. Vedder expressions. P.P.S. (Sorry if I got carried away) Greendoc aae831@ramail.angelo.edu "Take, if you want a slice, if you want a piece, if it feels alright" --"My Wave"--SOUNDGARDEN "Oh, well, whatever, nevermind" --"Smells Like Teen Spirit"--NIRVANA ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Hi! I am new on this list, so I don't know much about what everyone is talking about, especially Stacy or Steven, but it seems like everyone is doing a lot of fighting. why doesn't everyone just chill? Stacy has her opinion, Steven has his. Neither is wrong, but neither is right either. Opinions are what you think, not what is right or wrong. The purpose of this list is to talk about Soundgarden and possibly other cool music bands that we like, not to put each other down and fight. If you disagree, then fine, but you don't have to try to force your opinions on other people. I'm sorry if anyone gets mad at this message and I hope no one "flames"me. I've never heard anyone use that term before, so it sounds kind of funny to me Anyway, my name is Sara, and my home is in Little Chute, Wisconsin (right by Appleton if you've ever heard of that) but I am attending college at UW-Eau Claire. I joined this mailing list to hear about Soundgarden, since no one around me really likes them, but I don't like seeing people cut each other down. Anyway, I hope I continue to like being on this list, and I also hope that I stop saying anyway so much. Well, I have to get to a class, so . . . . Can't we all just get along? -Sara Lou ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: CC's image change At 12:36 PM 10/3/95 GMT, dgarrett@bcs.org.uk wrote: >Is the reason for >such a drastic change that he wants to be taken seriously as a singer/songwriter >and not as some Rock Bimbo or is it that he just can't be bothered to give the >whole rock performance anymore, has he got boring?? I only ask as I saw them at >Reading and was well disappointed that the band (Chris esp) looked dead bored >by the whole thing, played mostly the slow ones and did'nt seem to have the >passion they had 2-3 years ago. Come on Chris go off your ead'!!! > I think someone suggested a while ago that Chris is not as young as he used to be. It happens to a lot of lead singers, they throw themselves around in their youth but as they grow older eg. past their twenties (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're past it!), their bodies start to not appreciate being thrown around so much to the point that they begin to sustain physical injuries. Just my thoughts. I'd rather see him on stage (which I haven't yet!) standing up and moving a little than to see him perform from a wheelchair :) Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Musical Integrity At 10:10 AM 10/4/95 -0400, Steven Russell Jr. wrote: >First, those of you that have been moaning (bitching) about the lack of >soundgarden comments in this flame war over musical integrity. Please >delete this message now. It is not intended for you. go back to work. No need to delete - I like all posts. Those who think that this list should be strictly SG posts could possibly take more comfort in reading SG's FAQ sheet and discography for all information that they need to know rather than joining this mailing list... >As for Silverchair. They are a bunch of immature 15 and 16 year olds >(actually all 15 and 16 years are immature. this is a statement of fact) Silverchair are an interesting case - I too believed that they were a rip-off when I saw their first single "Tomorrow", but beyond that I see some originality coming into the group. Hopefully this continues, I found it interesting for them to comment on issues in the Middle East (in their song "Pure Massacre"), and I only hope that they will define a sound that is Silverchair's. Whilst not liking their current release Frogstomp, I appreciate that the lead singer's voice is very good (and deep) for a 15y.o. - - maybe there are great things to come. Cheers Stephen! JUST JOKES JUST JOKES (I'm currently ducking your punch) Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises DOH! I've had my head in the clouds again! Which countries/areas were lucky enough to get She Likes Surprises on their copies of Superunknown? I know that it bugs a lot of fans when different countries get different releases of albums, but Australia seems to be a lucky place because we are usually on the lucky side of the releases - we get the special tracks and b-sides and extra CDs. Jackhammer (currently melting down flamethrower to make guitar strings...) In Every Life We Have Some Trouble But when you worry , you make it double Don't worry, be happy! {who'd like to hear SG do a cover of that one?) ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Re: Sara from Wisconsin Howdy Sara, thanks sooo much for addressing this problem, because quite frankly it's giving me the willies also. I also thought we were here to discuss our common ground, not to pick shit through each other! But anyway, welcome to the list and I hope you stay on and become part of our little family! Thanks yet again... - -Ben - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: "VASANT RAMAMURTHY" Subject: Kim is Asian >I thought Kim was Indian (as in East...) >Am I wrong? Pls. let me know. > >Happy SG day! > >MB Uhh..Last time I checked, India was in the continent of Asia, and Indians were considered Asians. :-) BTW, read the recent article about Kim that I posted. It's on the SG web page. Vasant - -- Vasant Ramamurthy vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu Vasant.Ramamurthy@launchpad.unc.edu Check out http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html !! "Evenflow, thoughts arrive like butterflies" -Evenflow-Pearl Jam ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises I think basically any country that isn't in North America has it on theirs. I could be wrong though. I am jealous of Australia. Chris Mackenzie "Why aren't they singing - take you're vitamins, be a nice person?" - Soundgarden, Big Dumb Sex (New Version) "I dreamnt of Cindy & her thorazine screams and her perma-teen light & I've seen her loose her mind" - Truly, Angelhead ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: jamie gathers no moss... On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > Just got my Rolling Stone: > > After canceling the European leg of last year's tour because of Chris Cornell's > strained vocal cords, Soundgarden finished the job at Ireland's Sunstroke > festival, with two new songs: "Flies" and "Ty Cobb." An LP is due next > spring. thanks for the info jamie. who is on the cover, btw? and who here thinks that flies will be reminiscent of drawing flies? and as for ty cobb, wasn't he a baseball star of the fifties? they seem to be writing less about the dark underbelly of society now, and have written about other stuff. which lately has been a bit sporty in nature. first with kyle petty, son of richard, and now the ty song. do you think they could write an aggressive song about baseball? :) and if there is anyone on the list who went to the sunstroke festival (what a title!), then tell us what the songs sounded like. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: Superunknown Cover On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Greg Bensimon wrote: > Just wodering... > What is the significance of the cover art for Superunknown? To look at it > right side up, you see the "Screaming Elf" image (or whatever, forgive my > ignorance). Turn it upside down, and you see the silhouette of a forest > against a white sky, with flames(?) burning below. I'll have a go for you greg. the picture on the front of superunknown is a twofold sorta thing. the big one is the band picture. it didn't strike me first off as a picture of four guys, but if you look a little closer (took me a *long* time :), everyone from the band is there. with the forest fire at the bottom, I read that chris felt that everyone else thought that the mental image of soundgarden was a nice, pretty place with lovely blossoming flowers and beautiful colours everywhere (that's not my mental image. I think of scorched earth). so just to set everybody straight, they put that forest fire picture at the bottom. I also have to admit that I didn't see the upside down stuff straight away either :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: SOUNDGARDEN =CB=AAP]=AB=D7^W=AB=BB=DB=E3=CA=AF=CE=F23'=B8=A5=CE=D4 Hmmmm....allah sudde= n this list has turned into something I never expected: it has nothing to do with SOUNDGARDEN! When I first signed on, there was some pretty neat discussion and I learned some things about the band I never knew. Wow! This list was pretty cool! Now it seems everyone is bickering back and forth, and the people who dont fight each other tell each other how to fight or not to fight or fight with them or fight with me or let's not fight or etc. etc. What the hell?= =20 SHADDUP! Silverchair this, Nirvana that, Pearl Jam those. SOUNDGARDEN is the topic I signed up to discuss, I think a lot of people unsubscribe because that's not happening! There's my 2 cents. If you want to=20 respond, don't even think about it unless the word SOUNDGARDEN is=20 included in your message. "You know what I think alternative music is? A bunch of jocks with punk=20 rock hair cuts." -James Maynard Keenan TOOL ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Kim Thayil's Bald Spot When I saw SG last year, the first thing to catch my eye was the bald spot on Kim Thayil's head. I thought it was a pretty cool bald spot. Has anyone else noticed this great wonder? The should use it for an album cover - hey, their next album could be called "Bald Spot!", pretty nifty title, eh? Or maybe Kim Thayil could do a solo project and call it that. Chris Mackenzie "Why aren't they singing - take you're vitamins, be a nice person?" - Soundgarden, Big Dumb Sex (New Version) "I dreamnt of Cindy & her thorazine screams and her perma-teen light & I've seen her loose her mind" - Truly, Angelhead ------------------------------ From: Alex Lyberopoulos Subject: Tour? Newsflash. I heard that Soundgarden have been confirmed for a concert on new years eve at Macquirie Uni here in Oz. Apparently it would be an outdoor thing with about 20000 people, plus support is to come by Sonic Youth. This may be untrue but i hope not. I'll have to start working out and practising my air guitar and sing alongs in preparation. Hopefully the new album will be out by then. They might have to play for four hours to fit in all their great songs:) Please God let it be true. WHOOHOO!!! ------------------------------ From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) Subject: wednesday... Re: The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 4 Oct 1995 ------------------------------ From: fe666@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles Cortez) Subject: tee shirts.... > i have an idea for a shirt.....why dont we just > have badmotherfucker on the shirt instead of badmotorfinger > just an idea. And what does that have to do with Soundgarden? The goal of the t-shirt should be to represent somms, the mailing list, and not to be YASGT (yet another SG tee). I certainly hope 'badmotherfucker' doesn't best characterise this list (although I have my doubts at times). ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: tuesday digestion... >Um, i like core better than purple, i felt that stp had an identitiy when Tastes differ. > they did core. Not to try to limit people to a certain type of music, > but, um, it seemed like purple was a pile of songs made to get on the > radio. Yeah, i know, like "Lounge Fly" would ever get on the radio. But Well, Core has more raw energy, power, but Purple sounds moch more like a mature piece of work to me. Anyway, I seem to smell napalm so we better quit this discussion. :-) ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: The great weiland > > Actually, STP was around before PJ, but they couldn't land a deal (it > You cant honestly believe the list is going to belive this? STP the I honestly don't give a rat's ass. > founders of Grunge...the founders of the Seattle sound? They've secretely I never said that. Don't misconstrue my words. I just said that they existed and played the music they do before the whole Seattle scene got huge. > been hiding the famous seattle sound from everyone since the late 80's? Only Weren't you the one that was bragging about how he knew how the music bizz works a few days ago? Well, if you do then you should know what I'm talking about. STP had the same chance of succes in '89. as Rancid did in '92. None. Their sound/style wasn't 'in', they could not get signed. When the circumstances changed and it became the hottest thing around, they also got their break. > to unleash it upon the masses when .... and you said it not i.... when > those copycats from seattle finally started to break! Oh I bow down to Why can't you comprehend that two bands that never seen eachother, never heard eachother's music can sound alike? Why doesn everyone have to be someone else's copycat? Only 5 people in one group have the right to sound in a certain way and be true about it, all others have to be copycats? ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Sam M.) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 3 Oct 1995 > 8. White Album (Beatles) -- I'm not even sure if I have this one but it > plays in my mind. Has anyone else notice the similarity between the solos > of Thayil and Harrison? Yeah! But, what boggles me is... How the hell did George manage to copy Kim, when he was there before him? I'm confused. Maybe he gave him private lessons before SG became popular? Maybe he's a Martian and has a time-machine? Anyone? How can this be? Hey! Hey! Easy! Lower those shotguns! I'm only kidding! ------------------------------ p.s. Tomorrow I'm moving and might be not be able to post regulargly for some time... [SFX: Cheers and ovations spread throughout the virtual world...] Oh yeah? Well, don't count on it! - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ From: Alex Lyberopoulos Subject: Re:Best Lyric YES YES YES! Especially in the live version "It wouldn't pain me more to bury you fucken rich, than to bury you poor..poor..Jesus Christ Jesus Christ.. On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Benjamin Jon Macqueen wrote: > Howdy, by far and away my favorite all-time lyric of SG would be taken > from Jesus Christ Pose-"It wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich, than > to bury you poor, in your Jesus Christ Pose." I dunno why, but when > Chris belts this tune out it leaves me realing as he carries the note > from his trademark, intense scream to an almost devilishly low and dirty > growl. OHH, it really flips my trigger just thinkin' about it(!?).... > > -Ben.. > -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: jamie gathers no moss... From: seth > thanks for the info jamie. who is on the cover, btw? and who > here thinks that flies will be reminiscent of drawing flies? and as for > ty cobb, wasn't he a baseball star of the fifties? they seem to be > writing less about the dark underbelly of society now, and have written > about other stuff. which lately has been a bit sporty in nature. first > with kyle petty, son of richard, and now the ty song. do you think they > could write an aggressive song about baseball? :) Ty Cobb played for the Detroit Tigers in the beginning of the century and still has the highest lifetime batting average (.367) of any player to ever play in the major leagues. He was also one of the most despicable people to ever play the game. Besides being an outspoken racist, womanizer, and alcoholis, he was known to sit in the dugout and sharpen the spikes on his cleats to a razor's edge. Quite a few infielders left the game with bloody shins when Cobb slid into base, spikes first. So, I think that gives Soundgarden some material to work with. As for the Rolling Stone issue, is this the newest one? With Red Hot Chili Peppers on the cover? The one I threw out before perusing? seth ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: Re: My Junk -- My Point is.. My point is that I was answering someone's interesting topic discussion (See My Junk, sorry, I forget who sent it). It was about any cd you might have and you listen to a lot and is unheard of. David. ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: Musical Integrity > > Silverchair are an interesting case - I too believed that they were a > rip-off when I saw their first single "Tomorrow", but beyond that I see some > originality coming into the group. Hopefully this continues, I found it > interesting for them to comment on issues in the Middle East (in their song > "Pure Massacre"), and I only hope that they will define a sound that is > Silverchair's. Whilst not liking their current release Frogstomp, I > appreciate that the lead singer's voice is very good (and deep) for a 15y.o. > - maybe there are great things to come. > I have to say that Silverchair has accomplished a lot considering their ages. I mean I'm about their age and I haven't landed a big record deal or anything. Anyway, in my opinion they aren't that horrible of a band. I mean they aren't that great or bad or amazingly musically talented but they are young and have a lot of time to grow musically. Maybe in a couple of years by their 3rd or 4th album they'll have come to a level where I can truly respect them. But right now, although their lead singers voice IS very good I really can't listen to them. ps. I personally like Pure Massacre more than Tomorrow. "The Juice is loose... " -A friend's reaction to The Verdict. ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Chris Mackenzie wrote: > I think basically any country that isn't in North America has it on > theirs. I could be wrong though. I am jealous of Australia. in that case, where do the american members of our list get the song? is it on a cd single for you guys? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: art gallery From: seth The Soundgarden Mailing List Member Art Gallery is up and running, currently with contributions from Dan Ladle and me (but I'm not very artistic). This makes two things you people can send me: 1. a picture of you for the member directory, which can be found at http://www.sgi.net.soundgarden/list (by the way, this is required in order to remain on the listadmin's good side) 2. your Soundgarden-related artwork for the art gallery, which can be found at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/contrib So get to it. seth ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Re: Tour? Howdy, oh God I hope you are right my friend. If you are, you have just made my eon!!! By the way, where did you hear about it? Cheers! - -Ben.... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN SOUNDGARDEN SOUNDGARDEN SOUNDGARDEN ah, it feels good to hear it for a change! - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises From: seth > > I think basically any country that isn't in North America has it on > > theirs. I could be wrong though. I am jealous of Australia. > > in that case, where do the american members of our list get the > song? is it on a cd single for you guys? It was on the double-vinyl version of _Superunknown_ that was released here. It's also on the version of the album that comes with _Supermotorfinger_, which I've seen for sale around here for what breaks down into about US$12 for each CD. seth ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Mudhoney Howdy, sorry to be getting of the topic of SG again, but I was just wondering if anyone out there knows of a Mudhoney list. I don't know if there are many fans here, but I am a devotee of these industry stalwarts, and have been since SuperfuzzBigmuff. But anyway, if anyone knows anything it would be much appreciated! Cheers - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Epic...cool song...gotta get the disc >Faith No More's Epic (affected many people!), Hmmm? What was it about? How did it affect people? Shit, what was the CHORUS??? I forgot? My memory is getting bad. I CAN, however, remember the piano part at the end. GOT IT GOT IT!!!!" YOOOOOUUUU WANT IT ALLLLL, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IIIIITTT!!!!" Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Does Windows '95 really work? (Heh heh, just kidding) Don't you HATE alt.music.soundgarden? It's constantly "Does Win '95 really work?" or "Make 10,000 bucks!!!" UGH!!! Thank you Seth, for providing this mailing list. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: SOMMS Shirts >Well, I think we're quite far away from that. First we would need some >volonteers to coordinate the project, someone with artistic talents to >design them, someone to find a source of cheap blank t-shirts, someone >with access to printing facilities and so on. Yeah, I have all of those nearby. Someone would need to send me a design (just draw it out, nothing to special) and then we'll put it together. I have a prnting press nearby. Cheap shirts...very cheap. My dad and sis did shirts through them for a while now. So, send me email with your ideas. If ya wanna send it to me via email...talk with me. I can set that up. Let's try and put it on a black tee-shirt. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Looking like you fave group... >Man, they're 15-16 y.o. kids. Most groups sit in obscurity for years >before they sell anything. Silverchair just aren't old enough to get >their own image/sound, give them time to work on it. How many of you >guys out there look like a member of your favourite group? Scary...but I look a little like Chris. The new hairstyle is almost identical. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Hey, wait a sec...didn't we ALREADY go through this??? >i have an idea for a shirt.....why dont we just >have badmotherfucker on the shirt instead of badmotorfinger >just an idea. Hmmmm...is it just me, or did I JUST flame somebody for this? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!! Even though SG _DID_ want to call it Louder Than Fuck, and yes, they may have wanted to call it BMFucker...they DIDN'T. DO YA HEAR THAT? THEY DIDN'T!!!!! Next thing ya know, some fool's gonna come in here saying it should have been called "Screaming Fuck" and "Fuck" and "UltramegaFUCK" and "Superfuck" I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!! Look, this was a lot of vulgarity for me in a post, but I THINK I proved my point. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Stacy, Stacy, Stacy...we only have one of you...thank God Stacy said this...why, I don't know. >And finally, can I ask what you think of your own opinion, I find it "interesting". Why is it that EVERY FRIGGIN WORD that comes out of your keyboard is a flame? Does the phrase "Dish it out, but can't take it" ring a bell? C'mon, don't kid yourself. This is the Soundgarden mailing list, you're new here, and you need to be a little more careful with what you say until we get to know you better. Seriously, you could have improved that post by saying "I don't think that Plant and Cornell can really be compared. Know what I mean? They're from different genres of rock music." would have been a lot better than "NO!!! YOUR OPINIONS ARE WRONG. ALL BOW DOWN TO THE HIGH AND MIGHTY STACY!!!!" Shut up, think, be careful, and re-word your sentences. We don't like to read most of them the way they are right now. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: LP LP LP LP LP!!!!! >After canceling the European leg of last year's tour because of Chris Cornell's >strained vocal cords, Soundgarden finished the job at Ireland's Sunstroke >festival, with two new songs: "Flies" and "Ty Cobb." An LP is due next >spring. WOOOOOH!!! As soon as it comes out, I'm writing the story for the school paper (I already have it marked in advance :) I'll upload the text and the picture I use. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Why I'm on this list... I remember a little while back. I never read the digest, I thought it crowded up my mailbox. I had it, but I just deleted it, because I had better stuff to do with my time. Well, then I started reading it, but never taking an active roll in it, hell, never really posting in it, just browsing over it. Then I saw a post. Someone had sent yet ANOTHER "Take me off!!!" to the SOMMS address, and someone (Clown?) just flamed the hell out of her. It had a little to do with "If you were a REAL soundgarden fan, then you would be posting!!!" I felt like a slacker. Ya know? I WAS a real Soundgarden fan!!! So then I started posting. I figured that I had something to donate to this group, so I would. So thanks a lot, Clown. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Funny you should say that, C the MF >AND, btw, Moon Druid, how about all you northern-hemisphere-ers making the >big trip to come & see us Down Under?? Don't forget there are a few of us >on the list.................a really cool & happening place down here, you know!! Funny you should say that. My dad may have to move down there for a little while because of his job...go figure, he's a banker :/ But, hey!!! I might go down, I dunno. Right now, he's probably gonna be here, but if we're ever down there, I'll look ya up. Yellow pages...hmmmmm....MF...hmmmm...hmmmm..MF, where'd it go? Ahh, here it is! MF, Robert, William, Rupert, Carolyn!!! Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: Nirvana in Pajamas >Hello, I'd just like to ask everyone who hates Silverchair to keep it to >themselves... they were awarded 6 ARIA awards last night at (suprisingly >enough...) the ARIA Awards presentation. That's damn good for a group of >15-16 year old kids... Oh, don't get me wrong, I think they're a great band. Problem is that I think they're going to run into a few problems when the big desicions roll around. They've already made a few huge choices...hopefully they don't find themselves burried in the hype. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: I'm being followed by a druid... >> While munching on a multi-colored cereal, Avatar said... >Hmmm, probably Fruit Loops or something... Sounds good to me!!! >Yes, I was making comments very similar to those. I tried reversing 665->667 >and it sounds very much the same backwards. >Except for the "I love you, Satan" bit... :) Huh? Explain for me please. Just kiddin, or did you really reverse it? (Great, now I'm gonna record those songs and play them in reverse. DOH!) >> Don't worry, Av, you'll like it soon. >Cool, gotta get my $30 worth.. Jeepers!!! $30? What, are you a member of Columbia House or something :) >Thanks muchly for the advice... Anytime. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Dream bash in Hawaii Carolyn will win big bucks...and then do this!!! >Well, as I've already told Jamie, when I win my fortune (dream on Carolyn), >I'm going to organise a big bash for us all at somewhere like Hawaii, where Coolness. Sounds like fun. I'll be there...I just hope I'm still on AOL so y'all can tell me. No, wait...belay that wish. I hope I have a REAL internet connection so y'all can tell me!!! >we can book out a whole resort to ourselves and just have one continuous >pool party where we do nothing but swim, laze, laugh, eat, drink, be merry, >and listen to Soundgarden all day & night long!! In fact, I might just try Sounds good. I bring my CDs. :) >& win enough money to not only fly all of "my family" over there, but also >to entice Soundgarden themselves to come & join us for a few days.............. "Hey, Chris baby! What's up? Ohhhh, yeah! C'mon, we got this deal going for ya!! C'mon, you know you want to!!!" Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Heh heh heh...FREE THE JUICE!!! >12:30 The O.J. Verdict Preview > 1:00 Live coverage of the O.J. Verdict > 1:30 Live coverage of the L.A. Riots In school, during my morning free period (around 10:00) I was running through the halls (away from the deans :) screaming out FREE THE JUICE!!!! FREE OJ!!!! NOT GUILTY!!! NOT GUILTY!!!! over and over and over. Heh heh heh. So I was in chorus (yeah, wanna make something of it :)..) and the director said...after we finished rehearsing..."Okay, so, by a show of hands, who thinks he's guilty?" and a lot of people raised their hands "Who thinks he's going to jail?" and even LESS people raised their hands. So, she turned on the TV (Yeah, we have an entire Fiber-optic system in our school...nenner-nenner-neeener!!) and with perfect timing, we saw the verdict. Needless to say, I ran from the room screaming "THE JUICE IS LOOSE!!!!" So, any OTHER OJ Stories? Oh, to keep this SG related...do you think the guys think OJ was guilty or not? Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Getting some guitar tabs... Buying your own axe, eh Jackhammer? Well... >To the guitarists on the list, is the guitar tab for SG readily available in >books or is it hard to find? Just interested seeing as I'm actually buying a >guitar in the very near future... Cherry Lane makes the books, Jeremy has a link there on the Underworld. There IS an entire FTP site at Nevada that has the guitar tabs...but for some reason I can never get through...something seems to be wrong. The books themselves'll run ya about 18 bucks..but they're nice. They have everything down to Chris's "Yeah!"s to the guitar in the solo (good luck) As far as guitars go...here's a little compilation of what kinds of guitars the band members use (correct me when I'm wrong, Glenn the intoxicated Canuck!! :) Chris - Gibson Les Paul (Classic I THINK...) Gretch...uhhhhhh....something. Kim - Guild S-10(0?) Something else.... I had the opertunity to play a Guild today...very nice. Kim's model is fairly cheap, but always play whatever feels right to you. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: gstanway@you.wincom.net Subject: Opinions on opinions Hi friends and foes (hopefully, I don't have many foes... :) )... Hate to bother everyone again, but I had to mention something that's been bothering me. In the wake of the mushroom cloud hovering above Stacy.Meyrick's head from the severe beating we've all been laying on him, I've noticed people trying to say that some people's opinions are more or less important than others. Nothing could be further from the truth. Do I feel that my opinion is more 'important' than that of Chris Cornell?? No. No more so than I feel Cornell's opinion is more 'important' than mine. What I mean to say is that you can't place a level of importance on what someone thinks... they're thoughts. You can't rate them. Everyone has something to say, and they have the right to think what they wish: it's a fact of life. Chris isn't more "important" because he's the lead singer/rhythm guitarist of Soundgarden, a "superstar" rock quartet. He's just a man. So is Matt. So is Ben. And so is Kim (sex change...hahahaha! :) ). I'm a man, too, and my opinion can carry just as much weight as Mr. Cornell's. And I'm sure Chris would agree with me. Thanks for listening, Glenn ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: jamie gathers no moss... On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, seth wrote: > Ty Cobb played for the Detroit Tigers in the beginning of the century > player to ever play in the major leagues. He was also one of the most > despicable people to ever play the game. Besides being an outspoken > racist, womanizer, and alcoholis, he was known to sit in the dugout > and sharpen the spikes on his cleats to a razor's edge. Quite a few > infielders left the game with bloody shins when Cobb slid into base, > spikes first. So, I think that gives Soundgarden some material to work > with. sounds more like a pantera or white zombie song :) do you think they might pick this song up next year as the promo to the new baseball season? and I wonder who from the band is the stock car and baseball fan? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: mouthful of cotton does anyone know exactly what chris sings in the bridge just before the final chorus on spoonman? is it 'come on, like it all'? or am I a complete scuma who can't understand totally clear lyrics? it's just that that particular bit is the hardest to understand from superunknown for me. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: SMILE folks!! :-) Yes, it's me. Yesterday I was a very sick chick (and this time not from being hungover, but genuinely ill - bring out your violins now) so had to stay home from work. Today I'm not a lot better, and WOW just what I DON'T need to get me back on track was all the somms messages regarding flames, bitching, Silverchair, etc. etc. etc.!!!!! I still haven't had a chance to read them all yet, but decided I'd better post something to try and quell all the bad vibes out there. There are more things in life than to publicly humiliate/scorn/hurt people, you know!! Like listening to LOUD music, driving fast cars, eating (wo - not today perhaps, I'm still pretty nauseous right now), drinking & being merry, lazing in the sun, swimming in the sea, going to see your favourite band, breathing in some fresh country air........................... I suggest that Steven Russell (yes I spelt it right, Steve) and MR Meyrick (if you'd read one of his postings he did let us know he's a he so no need to call him he/she anymore) in future speak to each other privately and not to the whole group, UNLESS it's something we'll wanna hear. Ya hear?? This is NOT to mean I dislike Steve & Stacy - most of you know that I'm a pretty relaxed kind of girl with not a bad attitude - just that I reckon they'd both have more of a chance of settling their differences in private and not with the rest of us as witnesses............. Okay, that's my two bob's worth for now. BUT - you'll be sure to hear from me again in the not too distant future! Carolyn the Mad Factotum <-- found this word in the dictionary - - I learnt SOMETHING today ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: is CC Jesus' twin? Howdy, I know this may sound a tad pointless but I was just sitting at my computer, trying extremely unsuccessfully to finish an essay that was due in 2 days ago when a thought popped into my head. Does anyone think that Chris looks a tad like Jesus, (yes, that's right, the Son of God and all that jazz) on the inside of the Badmotorfinger cover? I'm not implying that CC is God's nephew or anything (but he could be a distant cousin), but I just thought it was interesting. Cheers - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au p.s.-I hope I didn't offend any Christians on the list!? ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Re: opinions on opinions Here Here Glenn Cheers - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: RE: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises List: I've got a my version of Superunknown which includes She Likes Surprises. = Eventhough it isn't my favorite song I listen to it from time to time. >On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Chris Mackenzie wrote: >> I think basically any country that isn't in North America has it on = >> theirs. I could be wrong though. I am jealous of Australia. I must say that even when we're on the south edge, Mexico is still North A= merica (we're together in NAFTA remember?). The CD wasn't manufactured here= however. The country of origin was in a label on the plastic wrap so it's = gone. = Also North American... URBANO Non SG PD: Are my messages arriving in some weird ASCII? I just can't get t= his fucking MS-Exchange right. Let me know. - ---------- From: blind dog Sent: Mi=E9rcoles 4 de Octubre de 1995 9:13 PM To: Chris Mackenzie Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Superunknown w/out She Likes Surprises > in that case, where do the american members of our list get the = >song? is it on a cd single for you guys? ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 60] ***************************************