From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 4 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 02:11:32 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 4 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Re: Top Ten Albums Re: Know the whole story, for God's sake!!!!!! Re: Kim...was he once a woman? Re: One happy, dysfunctional, SG loving, family!!! Re: who cares?? Re: Re: Re: Steve Russell Jnr vs Jovica Popovic Different SG releases? Re: Chaos? Sounds cool umm.. Re: My Junk tee shirts.... Re: My Junk Re: I'm being followed by a MoonDruid.... Re: SG office bods Haters of Silverchair Everywhere Re: SG office bods Re: Monday 2, October, 1995 Re: And the wreck of us is the death of us all -Reply Re: All bands really together More hate - more flames - more shit Interesting idea? O.J. All bands really together Re: SG office bods Re: Re: Re: Steve Russell Jnr vs Jovica Popovic Re: O.J. Re: Tired of top tens... Re: One happy, dysfunctional, SG loving, family!!! -Reply Re: All bands really together Member Directory Re: Top Ten Albums Re: tee shirts.... stacy meyrick DOES belong here POT USA's strings Re: Stacy Re: All bands really together Re: Member Directory tuesday digestion... Rolling Stone Re: tuesday digestion... Re: Haters of Silverchair Everywhere Re:Best Lyric Who needs talent? The great weiland RE: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 3 Oct 1995 Re: Top Ten Albums Re: who cares?? Re: SG office bods Re: your mail Missing mail ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Top Ten Albums Yes, it's me. Back with a Vengeance. Here are my top ten albums. Not just from Seattle, but from anywhere (yes, even Australia). The way I chose these was to ask myself which ten albums I'd select to keep if they were the only ones I could listen to for the rest of my life. Sound like a good way to choose? This meant I had to pick ones I wouldn't get sick of, and I had to go for a bit of variety. So here goes (& these are in no order): 1. Violent Femmes - (untitled) 2. Soundgarden - toss up between Superunknown & Badmotorfinger (probably Superunk) 3. Offspring - Smash 4. Beasts of Bourbon - The Axeman's Jazz 5. Pearl Jam - Vs 6. The Cramps - A Date With Elvis 7. The Cruel Sea - Three Legged Dog 8. Painters & Dockers - Kiss My Art 9. Nirvana - Incesticide (or In Utero or Nevermind or Unplugged in New York) 10. U2 - War And narrowly missing out were AC/DC (Back in Black), Hoodoo Gurus, Green Day, Talking Heads, Screaming Tribesmen, The Cure, Red Hot Chili Peppers............. Still, I think I could survive without these, but not without the ten above. Oh boy that was hard. Bye! Carolyn the Magnetic Factor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: gstanway@you.wincom.net Subject: Re: Know the whole story, for God's sake!!!!!! Okay, I'm sorry to everyone, but I have to say this: For God's sake, know what the hell you're talking about before you start flaming people!! Good God!!! It's hostile enough here already!!!! I keep reading message after message from people beating up on the initiator of the Top Ten Seattle list.... If you didn't want to contribute, you didn't have to bitch about it!!!! I mean, stacy.mayrick, for example, thinks the guy who started this is a prick because it was only for Seattle bands.... Sorry, but if you'd read the original post YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE POINT OF THE WHOLE @#$%ING THING WAS TO LIST ALBUMS BY BANDS FROM SEATTLE.... God... Why do so many people on this list have to be such assholes, when there was nothing done to provoke them in the first place.... C'mon people, we're better than that.... :) Best wishes, everyone... Glenn ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Kim...was he once a woman? At 10:37 AM 10/2/95 -0400, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: >>Does saying he has the best buns in the group count as something bad????? Hey, >this comment can't be any more sillier than saying Kim was a woman - give me a >break....... > >Jamie > Is Kim a baker? I never knew that... Though I think a lot of males in the music world come from bakeries, judging by the way my sister says so many have nice buns... Then others come from breweries (nice six-pack eg. Chris Cornell, again according to my sister). :) JUST JOKES! To the guitarists on the list, is the guitar tab for SG readily available in books or is it hard to find? Just interested seeing as I'm actually buying a guitar in the very near future... And for goodness sake, lay off Kim being a woman in a past time - it would be much like finding out that one of the band members is gay --> to me, it's interesting, but it wouldn't affect any of my views on their music Seeya round! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: One happy, dysfunctional, SG loving, family!!! I wrote: >>Just speaking from me though, I kind of feel like those of us who do all the >>talking are like family. And I guess that's because we do talk to each >>other a lot. And Moon Druid wrote: >Hmmmmm...wonder if we could all get together somewhere. Like, meet in >Chicago, IL sometime? It's in the center of the US, dontchaknow! (It's also >where I live...but don't tell anyone that!!!) Well, as I've already told Jamie, when I win my fortune (dream on Carolyn), I'm going to organise a big bash for us all at somewhere like Hawaii, where we can book out a whole resort to ourselves and just have one continuous pool party where we do nothing but swim, laze, laugh, eat, drink, be merry, and listen to Soundgarden all day & night long!! In fact, I might just try & win enough money to not only fly all of "my family" over there, but also to entice Soundgarden themselves to come & join us for a few days.............. Whatdoyareckon??????? AND, btw, Moon Druid, how about all you northern-hemisphere-ers making the big trip to come & see us Down Under?? Don't forget there are a few of us on the list.................a really cool & happening place down here, you know!! Just my ideas, dreams, thoughts, bored that I am with work today, Carolyn the Materialistic Fancier ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: who cares?? On 3 October 1995 (yes already October), Jackhammer wrote: >And for goodness sake, lay off Kim being a woman in a past time - it would >be much like finding out that one of the band members is gay --> to me, it's >interesting, but it wouldn't affect any of my views on their music Hear, hear!! Who really cares if they are gay, were women, go to bed early, love pizzas, hate aeroplanes, don't smoke, do drink, whatever whatever WHATEVER?? Me, I also like 'em for their music. It did amuse me that someone wrote they're now turned off by the Foo Fighters because they sing a song that's supposed to be about someone being gay.....................are people really THAT insecure about their own sexuality that they feel threatened if someone else out in the big wide world is different from themselves???? Get a grip on it, folks!! (ha ha - & I don't mind if you take that literally) {just my crude mind at work .................. sorry!!} Carolyn the Malicious Facade ps: this wasn't supposed to be the start of another debatable topic - so lay off the flames & the responses to this one, please!! once again it's just me being bored at work with just a tiny point to make ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Steve Russell Jnr vs Jovica Popovic Can I just interupt here?(waving hand in the air yelling "my turn"). Does it realy, truly matter if one group 'copies' another group. Every artist has to have influences from somewhere. As long as the copyright laws are not broken, what's the problem (you can't copyright a 'sound' or an 'image'). Personally, if I was in a band - assuming I had some musical talent - I would be flattered if someone else looked like us and put out a single that sounded like us. As long as they didn't copy our lyrics or our tunes. Silverchair, a real good example Steve. When I first saw the Tomorrow video (I think the original video we got in Australia is different to the one shown every where else), the singer stands there with his shoulder length blonde hair, his stripey shirt a la Kurt in "..Teen Spirit" video, and is facial expressions copied from Kurt and Eddie V. I thought "Who does this little prick think he is (obvious answer). I thought the song wasn't bad, but I couldn't get passed the disrespect of the video. Then they put out a couple more singles, and I liked the sound, and now I have a copy of Frogstomp (Shit, I'm 24 y.o., I must be uncool!). Man, they're 15-16 y.o. kids. Most groups sit in obscurity for years before they sell anything. Silverchair just aren't old enough to get their own image/sound, give them time to work on it. How many of you guys out there look like a member of your favourite group? The way I see it, if someone copies your favourite group, it just means you now have two groups making music you can kick to. And, hell, am I SICK of this anti-commercialism band wagon. Face it: commercialism is the backbone of our society. Sorry!(pathetic shrug) If you don't like, maybe you could move to Antarctica or somewhere, or do what the French are planning and nuke the world. Most artists would agree when I say you want as many people to witness your creations as possible. The only way to get your music heard is to a) sell it or b) give it away. Unless you have a money tree plantation and are very generous, you can't afford to give it away. To play music, you need equipment, right? To make record it, you need a recording studio of some kind, right? And you need people to work the gadgets, produce the cd's, sort out all the legal crap, etc. Unless you pay for these, you've got a pretty big Christmas list. One more thing, Re: Stacy Meyrick's mail on 2nd Oct, as well as various other people. Yes, I agree, who cares if a band is from Seattle or not. I buy an album for the music, not because of the reputation of a city. I didn't see the message that started this, but if we were specifically discussing Seattle bands, that's great. Don't flame people for it. Peace and love, man. A heartfelt BRAVO to Jovica P. I agree with every thing you have said. My opinion: if you like someone's music, buy it, listen to it, and laugh insanely at anyone who tells you otherwise. If you are reading this, thank you for bearing with me. Shit, I can ramble on. The Tea Party kicks. David "I'm only faking when I get it right." by you know who. ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Different SG releases? At 03:07 PM 10/3/95 +1000, Carolyn wrote: >Me, I also like 'em for their music. It did amuse me that someone wrote >they're now turned off by the Foo Fighters because they sing a song that's >supposed to be about someone being gay.....................are people really >THAT insecure about their own sexuality that they feel threatened if someone >else out in the big wide world is different from themselves???? My last word on the topic, but I know far too many people who are homophobic. I respect all opinions, but they must be well thought out, and not many can explain their homophobia. I've seen it happen where people are supposedly open minded, but people being gay just makes them cringe. Some people have asked me whether some of the members of Faith No More are gay (and yes, one is), but I'm worried that by saying yes, the people will be turned off their music - THIS IS NOT FAIR! >Get a grip on it, folks!! (ha ha - & I don't mind if you take that literally) >{just my crude mind at work .................. sorry!!} Dirty! Keep an open mind everyone! Hmmm.... A soundgarden question? Need some SG content... A tendancy that I've noted with other bands is to have different releases of the same albums in different countries eg. add more or different songs to albums. Would someone tell me if this is something that Soundgarden do, because it can annoy the hell out of people who like to collect EVERYTHING (which doesn't include me!)? Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Chaos? Sounds cool At 08:55 PM 10/2/95 -0400, MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: >I'll have to check into it. Gun is my fave song of all time. >What are all of YOUR favorite songs? > >Moon Druid > Hmmmm.....rotten question, 'cos I'm one still forming my musical tastes (too young, you see), but to risk leaping into a fire, tip of the hat would go to Faith No More's Epic (affected many people!), a nose in front of Alice In Chain's No Excuses. I haven't given everyone my top ten - why? 'cos I have a blurred distinction of which bands come from Seattle over and above SG, AIC, PJ, Mudhoney... My sum total of all of their CDs/cassettes only makes 9! So I'll spare you all :) Seeyas... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: umm.. I haven't been getting ANY mailing list mail lately. Am I unsubscribed? Is my Internet server messing up? Is no one writing?? HELP So it's not totally Soundgarden unrelated... umm, has anyone out there reading this heard Fluttergirl? It's off the Stolen Prayers demo.. one of the best songs I've ever heard, I think... I really wish Soundgarden would release it, maybe on a single or something... Later! Confusedly yours, stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: Re: My Junk Greetings, I am new to this list. I'e got a CD by an Australian group called Mantissa (self titled debut) - you probably haven't heard of them if you aren't from .au. They've put out another album since, but I haven't heard it. Their sound is like no other band I've heard - it's kind of bluesy metal, I dunno, some of it is good, some is pathetic, their female bassist is hot. David ------------------------------ From: fe666@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles Cortez) Subject: tee shirts.... i have an idea for a shirt.....why dont we just have badmotherfucker on the shirt instead of badmotorfinger just an idea. - -- >From the collective desks of: | 1994 Need For Speed- Charles Cortez Trent Michaels | Purple Haze biking Terri Wengel Nicole McFee | team Chris Iacofano | **-/TREK BIKES\-** ------------------------------ From: LITTLE JOE Subject: Re: My Junk On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, 9304458s wrote: > Greetings, I am new to this list. > > I'e got a CD by an Australian group called Mantissa (self titled > debut) - you probably haven't heard of them if you aren't from .au. > They've put out another album since, but I haven't heard it. Their sound > is like no other band I've heard - it's kind of bluesy metal, I dunno, > some of it is good, some is pathetic, their female bassist is hot. So what's your point? ___________________________ = ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN = =========================== ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Re: I'm being followed by a MoonDruid.... On Mon, 2 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > While munching on a multi-colored cereal, Avatar said... Hmmm, probably Fruit Loops or something... > It will. I felt the same way after my first listening...you know? "ACK!!! > CIRCLE OF POWER SUCKS!!!!" and "Beyond the wheel is better live." and "You > know, part B, the slow stuff, sucks." Yes, I was making comments very similar to those. I tried reversing 665->667 and it sounds very much the same backwards. Except for the "I love you, Satan" bit... :) > Don't worry, Av, you'll like it soon. Cool, gotta get my $30 worth.. > And just to make sure of that, sing the lyrics to Beyond The Wheel. That'll > get you into the song. Yep, already trying to figure them out... Thanks muchly for the advice... - - Avatar ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: SG office bods > > >Second. What is it that compels us to come to this place and yap, yap, yap > >about four guys we don't even know? I mean, I understand why I'm here. I > >have absolutely nothing to do all day and all night, and I can't peel my > >face off of this computer screen. But we can't all be so idle? Or can we? > > I can't speak for the other on this list, but I'm here because I work in a > straight, middle of the road, slightly boring office filled with people who > have no idea who Soundgarden is. Most of my friends and family are nice, > normal, fun people, but again they don't have any idea who Soundgarden is. > Either I'm a freak in the normal world, or I need to change my lifestyle (can't > make to much money here). > > So, to find the SG mail list was a blessing for me. Besides it breaks the pain > of every other e-mail being work related. And the best part is meeting you > really cool people out there - it can be scary at times - to think some of you > are out there, waiting in the shadows, ready to pounce. I got the same feeling > working on the local crisis hot line. How can there be so many sickie out > there - joke!!!!!!! > > Jamie > > > I too work in a boring MOR office, Soundgarden and other bands of an alternative nature keep me sane. Any of my colleagues if they heard SG would probably run out of the room in fear (esp; Jesus Christ Pose!!) they are the sort to favour Mike & the Mechanics and chart shite like that. Give me dark, brooding, poetic heavy, amazing Soundgarden any time!! Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Haters of Silverchair Everywhere Hello, I'd just like to ask everyone who hates Silverchair to keep it to themselves... they were awarded 6 ARIA awards last night at (suprisingly enough...) the ARIA Awards presentation. That's damn good for a group of 15-16 year old kids... What were you people doing when you were 16? Not releasing records that get into the top ten US albums list, that's for sure... I'd be surprised to find that any of you have listened to more than 3 of their songs anyway. For those of you who like to think of Silverchair as "Nirvana in pajamas" well... you're correct to some extent, every band has their influences, but that doesn't mean you should accuse them of having no originality whatsoever. I own Bleach, Nirvana Unplugged, In Utero and Nevermind and can say that their music style is NOT just a rip off of Nirvana, or any other single band. If you haven't heard all of Frogstomp, I suggest you listen to it before you criticise them any further. - - Avatar (If you're still insistent on condemning other peoples musical tastes, either shut up, or buy a shotgun and some shells, load a shell into the chamber, put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger.) ------------------------------ From: lasiu@mojo.europe.dg.com (Liesl A Asiu) Subject: Re: SG office bods >> >> >Second. What is it that compels us to come to this place and yap, yap, yap >> >about four guys we don't even know? I mean, I understand why I'm here. I >> >have absolutely nothing to do all day and all night, and I can't peel my >> >face off of this computer screen. But we can't all be so idle? Or can we? >> >> I can't speak for the other on this list, but I'm here because I work in a >> straight, middle of the road, slightly boring office filled with people who >> have no idea who Soundgarden is. Most of my friends and family are nice, >> normal, fun people, but again they don't have any idea who Soundgarden is. >> Either I'm a freak in the normal world, or I need to change my lifestyle (can't >> make to much money here). >> >> So, to find the SG mail list was a blessing for me. Besides it breaks the pain >> of every other e-mail being work related. And the best part is meeting you >> really cool people out there - it can be scary at times - to think some of you >> are out there, waiting in the shadows, ready to pounce. I got the same feeling >> working on the local crisis hot line. How can there be so many sickie out >> there - joke!!!!!!! >> >> Jamie >> >> >> > >I too work in a boring MOR office, Soundgarden and other bands of an alternative >nature keep me sane. Any of my colleagues if they heard SG would probably run >out of the room in fear (esp; Jesus Christ Pose!!) they are the sort to favour >Mike & the Mechanics and chart shite like that. Give me dark, brooding, poetic >heavy, amazing Soundgarden any time!! > >Daniel Garrett > > I know how you feel, guys. I am trapped within a circle of friends who are into soul, pop and that lovey-dovey stuff, not to mention those monotonic club sounds like jungle and house. Unlike you, I work in a very active environment, lots of travel, training and loads of work, that does not meant that I like it but I guess it's better than you guys. Boredom is a hell of a thing. Liesl ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) Okay, Little Joe, I've gone away and learnt some musical knowledge, is it all right if I continue posting now. I mean, what do you want me to do, agree even if I don't. Somebody found the ability to compare Robert Plant and Chris Cornell, and then, and I'd love to know how this works out because it really amazes me, the Chris Cornell is "better". Would you like me to agree with that? Can I not say that maybe, just maybe I don't, purely because these are two very different artists and even comparing them is pointless, and as you so galantly put "my" comments, nothing short of childish. Can it not be said that both artists are good in their own right, I guess not. Tackling an issue doesn't mean you have to agree with it, it means you have something to say. And finally, can I ask what you think of your own opinion, I find it "interesting". ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Monday 2, October, 1995 From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >My views of Stone Tempah Peirgos will never change(unless they actually >worry those of you that cant stand STP, they wont be around much longer. >(think spin doctors) First - STP - OK, so I have both of their CD's - OK, I have play both CD's - OK, I did enjoy them the first two times - OK, I'm over it. I even have a STP Tee - first time I wash it, it got a hole in the back - I guess all their stuff falls apart fast. I still like their kitchenware and candy bar song (and no I'm not sure that's the name of it). >grunge band anyway...) throw in some surfer music and start doing the >monkee...Jamie might know what I'm talking about. You know, yesterday I had to work real hard to not mention Steven Russell Jr., in any of my posting. See if I mention a name in a posting that ear marks you as a asshole elite group member. Well, DAMN Steven I just mention your sweet name and I will try my best to place it in every posting today..... Relax people, Steven and I are buddies, he helped me across a mud puddle just the other day and I still don't think that was a piece of paper you were trying to pinch. OK, Steven, I'm tired but ready for ya!!!!!! Jamie BTW: Yes, I know what your talking about (surfer music and monkee), but just like today, there were people in to the Beach Boy surfer music (pop tunes of the day) and there were people hearing the real shit - like the blues (Howlin' Wolf, Jimi Hendrix, Muddy Waters, Otis Redding, Etta James, Willie Dixon, Taste, Judy Holiday). I was really young but, guess what type of music I was into. I have been the square peg in the round hole for a long time. WARNING - WARNING Jamie is really tired (put over 16 hours in yesterday - then when home and blew up her CD player), so do not take any offense to anything she may say. WARNING - WARNING This has been an Early Warning Test - If it had been an actual alert... We would have nothing to worry about any more. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: And the wreck of us is the death of us all -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Second. What is it that compels us to come to this place and yap, yap, yap >about four guys we don't even know? I mean, I understand why I'm here. I >have absolutely nothing to do all day and all night, and I can't peel my >face off of this computer screen. But we can't all be so idle? Or can we? I can't speak for the other on this list, but I'm here because I work in a straight, middle of the road, slightly boring office filled with people who have no idea who Soundgarden is. Most of my friends and family are nice, normal, fun people, but again they don't have any idea who Soundgarden is. Either I'm a freak in the normal world, or I need to change my lifestyle (can't make to much money here). So, to find the SG mail list was a blessing for me. Besides it breaks the pain of every other e-mail being work related. And the best part is meeting you really cool people out there - it can be scary at times - to think some of you are out there, waiting in the shadows, ready to pounce. I got the same feeling working on the local crisis hot line. How can there be so many sickie out there - joke!!!!!!! Jamie You apparently have much the same reason for being on the list as I do. Love and kisses Dan ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: All bands really together Dan, I haven't picked up Sap yet. I have ordered it though and I can't wait. B.T.W. As soon as I find a picture of me that I'm not embarassed, by I'll send it to Seth. (Already scanned no less.) Hey Seth, do you prefer GIF, JPEG, or some other format? Greg P.S. -- I finally got a new sig. (Yay!) ****************************************** *** Sieze the day. *** *** Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. *** *** And watch the rolling heads. *** ****************************************** *** greg@sfa.com *** ****************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: More hate - more flames - more shit From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > do, agree even if I don't. Somebody found the ability to compare > Robert Plant and Chris Cornell, and then, and I'd love to know how this > works out because it really amazes me, the Chris Cornell is "better". I do believe I was one of the people comparing Chris and Plant, I do believe I said that Chris was the better of the two. In fact if I remember correctly - I have stated several times that Chris Cornell is a better singer and writer than Robert Plant. I am and always will be a Zep fan. I am and always will be a Soundgarden fan. Comparing the two - pointless - that's what this list is all about, drawing parallel between artist and music in the same categories. Comparing, discussing, sharing ideas, that's why we're here. Nobody's comments on this list are childish. Now if we compared Chris to Michael Bolton - that could be pointless. Jamie PS: Steven, Steven, Steven ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Interesting idea? Dear all, Do any of you have the comedy "Bottom" in you various countries. If you do what do you all think of a collaboration between Soundgarden and the Bum Notes (the band that plays the theme music. Strange or what. Dan ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: O.J. Any predictions on the O.J. verdict? I think he'll be spending a lot more time behind bars. CNN Preview (All times EDT -- That's GMT -400 for you guys out of the U.S.) 12:30 The O.J. Verdict Preview 1:00 Live coverage of the O.J. Verdict 1:30 Live coverage of the L.A. Riots Waiting on the edge of my seat... Greg ****************************************** *** Sieze the day. *** *** Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. *** *** And watch the rolling heads. *** ****************************************** *** greg@sfa.com *** ****************************************** ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: All bands really together Dear all, Talking of collaborations, at the weekend I brought the Alice in Chains double album Jar of Flies/Sap and it has a track by a band apparently called Alice MudGarden which is in fact Alice In Chains, Mark Arm from mudhoney and our main man Chris Cornell. The track is called Right Turn and it is F*^king excellent. If you don't already possess Sap (on it's own in some other countries) then buy it and listen to right turn as it Kick behind. By the way who has already sent their pictures off to Seth and who is still planning to When I have found a decent picture of me I shall send it straight away. All the best Dan ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SG office bods From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Second. What is it that compels us to come to this place and yap, yap, yap about four guys we don't >even know? I mean, I understand why I'm here. I have absolutely nothing to do all day and all night, >and I can't peel my face off of this computer screen. But we can't all be so idle? Or can we? > I can't speak for the other on this list, but I'm here because I work in a straight, middle of the road, >slightly boring office filled with people who have no idea who Soundgarden is. Most of my friends >and family are nice, normal, fun people, but again they don't have any idea who Soundgarden is. > Either I'm a freak in the normal world, or I need to change my lifestyle (can't make to much money >here). > Jamie >I too work in a boring MOR office, Soundgarden and other bands of an alternative >nature keep me sane. Any of my colleagues if they heard SG would probably run out of the room in >fear (esp; Jesus Christ Pose!!) they are the sort to favour Mike & the Mechanics and chart shite like >that. Give me dark, brooding, poetic heavy, amazing Soundgarden any time!! >> >>Daniel Garrett >I know how you feel, guys. I am trapped within a circle of friends who are into soul, pop and that >lovey-dovey stuff, not to mention those monotonic club sounds like jungle and house. >Unlike you, I work in a very active environment, lots of travel, training and loads of work, that does >not meant that I like it but I guess it's better than you guys. Boredom is a hell of a thing. > >Liesl >You apparently have much the same reason for being on the list as I do. >Dan I have gotten so many responses from you guys on this subject. I don't know where to cry or laugh. I wish we all lived in the same area. We could get together for some great happy hours. To all you that fit the above description - - - Hang in there guys - We will get by, We will survive!!!!!! And feel free at any time to post me - I love to talk (even about Soundgarden). Jamie PS: Steven - Steven - Steven ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Re: Re: Steve Russell Jnr vs Jovica Popovic From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Can I just interupt here?(waving hand in the air yelling "my turn"). >a copy of Frogstomp (Shit, I'm 24 y.o., I must be uncool!). >And, hell, am I SICK of this anti-commercialism band wagon. Face it: >commercialism is the backbone of our society. Sorry!(pathetic shrug) If >have a money tree plantation and are very generous, you can't afford to >give it away. >My opinion: if you like someone's music, buy it, listen to it, and laugh >insanely at anyone who tells you otherwise. > >If you are reading this, thank you for bearing with me. Shit, I can >ramble on. >David David, David, David, only 24 and already you have all the markings of a cynical grown up. Yes, everything you wrote is true. I'm sorry you had to learn this at such a young and great age. I do applause you for having the guts to say it out here in cyber space. I look forward to hearing your opinions in the future. Jamie PS: Steven - Steven - Steven ------------------------------ Subject: Re: O.J. From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Any predictions on the O.J. verdict? I think he'll be spending a lot more >time behind bars. > >CNN Preview (All times EDT -- That's GMT -400 for you guys out of the U.S.) > >12:30 The O.J. Verdict Preview > 1:00 Live coverage of the O.J. Verdict > 1:30 Live coverage of the L.A. Riots > >Waiting on the edge of my seat... > >Greg I'll just be glad to not see my family name flashed around the world (and in such a discussing manner). I think all of them (judge, attorneys, members of the press, etc) are guilty of poor taste. Jamie PS: Steven - Steven - Steven ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) I'm still somewhat confused, it seems very necessary on this list to compare and contrast everything possible with Soundgarden, and it's always the same. Okay, I like Soundgarden, and there aren't many days when they don't get played, but everytime somebody HAS to compare them with somebody else, and hey, what do you know, they always come top, kinda expected but don't you think shows a very un-opinionated perspective? Is it possible to have two favorite bands, perhaps three or four, maybe more? I know this is a Soundgarden mailing list but is that as far as it goes? Look at the Cornell/Plant debate, how can two very individual artists, from two very different era's be compared. Neither can be considered better than the other. Both have proved themselves to be what they are, musicians, and both have become influences for many, including myself. I'm not gonna say one is better than the other, because there is no point, music is music, to be listened to, to be talked about, but not to be graded. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Tired of top tens... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Well, i usually like to know other peoples opinions, especially on music, >and for the first 35 Top ten lists, i enjoyed reading them, but i'm >getting to the point now where i really don't care how other people rate >music. It's like Hootie and the Blowfish. I really can't criticize them >as a band, but at the same time i have had my fill of their music. So, >um unless there is something unconventional to say, when will the top ten >lists end? (Expecting 249 flames), j I had my office TV on last night and watched a short piece of the Farmers Aid Concert. I did see and like the last number done by Hoote and the Blowfish. They did a cover of Mustang Sally - that was not to shabby. So no flame here. Jamie PS: Steven - Steven - Steven ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: One happy, dysfunctional, SG loving, family!!! -Reply As long as you can get them to jam with me when they are there I'll be happy. Dan ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: Re: All bands really together >Dear all, > Talking of collaborations, at the weekend I brought the Alice in >Chains double album Jar of Flies/Sap and it has a track by a band >apparently called Alice MudGarden which is in fact Alice In Chains, Mark >Arm from mudhoney and our main man Chris Cornell. The track is called >Right Turn and it is F*^king excellent. Yes, it's a great song...but did you know that somewhere in existence there is a bootleg tape of those sessions. There are more songs by alice mudgarden floating out there. Anyone, Anyone....Bueller, Bueller? Steven ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Member Directory The initiative for a member directory was posteda while ago but it seems nobody cared, I expected to see the faces of those with whom I've become familiar (just by reading their posts). The page just includes one face: Seth's. The URL is: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list/ URB@NO . ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: Top Ten Albums Carolyn, it makes me happy that someone put Violent Femme's first album on their list. And you put it at the top. I mean how socially acceptable were those lyrics in the early eighties? Not very, in my opinion. Which increases my love for their music. But the reason i like it is because it is so honest. "Promise" is just so me i was in awe the first time i heard it. -j ***************************************************************************** "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" -"Plowed" by Sponge ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: tee shirts.... Well, that would definitely set us apart from everyone else, Charles.... ***************************************************************************** "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" -"Plowed" by Sponge ***************************************************************************** On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Charles Cortez wrote: > i have an idea for a shirt.....why dont we just > have badmotherfucker on the shirt instead of badmotorfinger > just an idea. > > -- > >From the collective desks of: | 1994 Need For Speed- > Charles Cortez Trent Michaels | Purple Haze biking > Terri Wengel Nicole McFee | team > Chris Iacofano | **-/TREK BIKES\-** > ------------------------------ From: "Baseflug Michael" Subject: stacy meyrick DOES belong here I think stacy does belong on this list, and there isn't anyone here who has the power to dictate who is and is not allowed to express their opinion, because that is what she's doing, expressing her opinions. I'm not saying I agree with all of her's, I don't, but I agree with her sometimes, especially concerning the comparison between musicians. I agree that this just shouldn't be done. Anyway, back on the topic. Stacy has the right to view her opinions. If ya just don't like them or feel they're just flame-bait, the solution is simple... ignore it and get on with your life. I think its interesting getting ALL points of views on the table, even if some offend others. That's what free speech is all about, imo. everyone has trhe same rights out here. i'll jusmp down from my cricketty old soapbox now. private replies would be best, if you are so inclined. i don't wanna waste this list for such non-related stuff. later, peoples michael B i got scratches all over my arms one for each day since i fell apart ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: POT USA's strings Um, i think it was you, md that was talking about punk being easily played on a three string guitar. I don't know, A5 and D5 can be pretty tricky chords sometimes..... -j ***************************************************************************** "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" -"Plowed" by Sponge ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Yrpupil@aol.com Subject: Re: Stacy I know you'll seriously disagree with me Little Joe, but yes, I think Stacy has a right to be on this list as much as anyone else does. Although he/she doesn't need me to say this and I'm sure you will be hearing from this person yourself. Think about how boring it would be if we all agreed on everything. The "flaming" is kind of interesting and it really doesn't hurt anyone because who cares what others say about you anyway?! Stacy's opinions are kind of brazen(and yes, I think most of us agree that CC has a little more "pull" than Stacy-I don't think his/her Rolling Stone interview has been published yet) but they are just that, his/her opinions. And as someone eloquently stated, opinions are like a**holes,everybody's got one and most people think their's is the only one that doesn't stink.Sorry, didn't mean to be so gross and no,I'm not afraid to write the word but I don't want to offend anyone more than I may have already done. Regarding Soundgarden, does anyone know the alternate lyrics to FOBD which can be sort of deciphered on the demo version of the song? Did I miss them on Seth's web page? Thanks for the information and expecting big flames. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: All bands really together From: seth > Hey Seth, do you prefer GIF, JPEG, or some other format? Doesn't matter. I think I have enough software that I can deal with any image format out there. seth ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Re: Member Directory I own only one picture of myself and it's on my driver's license. BDM On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, URBANO wrote: > The initiative for a member directory was posteda while ago but it seems > nobody cared, I expected to see the faces of those with whom I've become > familiar (just by reading their posts). The page just includes one face: > Seth's. The URL is: > > http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list/ > > URB@NO > . > > "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) Subject: tuesday digestion... Re: The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 3 Oct 1995 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: collaborations From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > Looks like Clown and I like Seal - anyone else think Seal's can put words > together like our main man Chris? Hear, hear! I don't actually have any of his albums, but the singles I heard so far were all excellent. And his singing on Stone Free (Hendrix tribute) is outstanding. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > PS: I liked the idea about the Tee's for our mail list - I'll take two - one > medium to wear and one X-large to sleep in. Well, I think we're quite far away from that. First we would need some volonteers to coordinate the project, someone with artistic talents to design them, someone to find a source of cheap blank t-shirts, someone with access to printing facilities and so on. Volonteers, step right up, don't be afraid. I'm a bit out of place, and am in a middle of moving to another city, so I can't do it myself... > PSS: I also must thank all the response to my Help posting - I will try each > and everyone of them - I did try one thing - did you know that all the lights > in an apartment complex will go out if you touch one of those bare wire to a ... > stating I can't pump my own gas - that was just a simple accident with the gas > pump - really. :-))))) You're too much... :-)))))))) ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Sam M.) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 2 Oct 1995 > And Beavis sayeth unto Butthead > "They copy Pearl Jam do they not?" > And Butthead sayeth back > "No, brother, Pearl Jam copyeth them." > Forgive them for they know not what they do. Actually, STP was around before PJ, but they couldn't land a deal (it wasn't 'in' at the time), so they had to wait for Seattle scene to break the ice. Did you see the episode where they wathced 'Plush' (Beavis: Hey, Eddie Vedder cut his hair and dyed it red!)? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: All bands together From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > Plant is fantasy). Plant can handle the slower type music, his voice does not > lean toward the hard and gut sound that Chris can produce. Blues would be a > good road for these two to travel together - maybe an old Muddy Waters number? Well, it seems that every rock/blues musician alive has recorded a version of 'Hoochie coochie man' so, why look any further? :-) ------------------------------ From: Luis A Betancourt Subject: Re: My Junk > Christ why don't you come save my life... Anyway I just got this live > Pearl Jam album that is absolutely incredible! In fact I just saw them in > New Orleans and they fuckin' kicked ass! They even had Joey Ramone come > on stage and sing with Eddie! This album isn't a bootleg(it sounds too > good but it is an import so my friend paid a lot for it) This may be that > type of C.D. that will be in my system for weeks! PJ have no official live album, except for that Atlanta radio broadcast which ended up on a dozen different bootleg CDs and was later issued in three parts as b-sides to their singles (Dissident, Go and Daugther, if I'm not mistaken). While we're at the subject, they are supposed to issue an live album with one of the european Neil Young concerts that PJ backed him up on. ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: More on "All bands together" > Here's an odd one. What about Matt and Carlos Santana? What kind of latin > rythms do you think Matt could lay down? (O.K., this one may be a little > wierd, but I've always loved the passion that seems to eminate from Carlos.) Radical! Cool, nevertheless. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Monday 2, October, 1995 >My views of Stone Tempah Peirgos will never change(unless they actually >make a halfway decent album). They are a bunch of NO talent copycat rip Yeah, sure. I bet. You, no doubt, even listened to Purple and think it's crap. Of course. >off artists only in the biz to make a buck. They have NO talent (repeated for >a reason) and should never be uttered in the same breath as Soundgarden. Dont soundgarden stone temple pilots soundgarden stone temple pilots Ain't I a nasty? :-) >worry those of you that cant stand STP, they wont be around much longer. Or at least until Wieland get out of jail. Not so soon, I'm afraid. BTW, have you noticed that, so far, you haven't produced _one_single_argument_ against them? Just saying 'they have no talent' repeatedly doesn't actually an argument make. > Have you ever put the guitar riffs to vaseline and SG's "she's a politician" > together? Why did they even bother to change a little bit. They basically > stole the entire thing. Hmm... Never heard that SG song. But the rhythm in Vasoline is mesmerising... Anyway, Vasoline doesn't sound like something SG would do. > Have you done the same thing with SG's Flower and Helmet's "In the Meantime"? Yeah. Helmet has ripped SG off. C'mon. They don't have nothing better to do, but listening to old SG records and picking up riffs from there... > Gulf War. They basically confused the shit out of Neil's audience. Back > to the SY CD's...the new album is OK. I wish I got the package earlier. Well, certainly not the part that heard Neil do 'Arc' and stuff like that. :-) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Monday 2, October, 1995 From: seth > standard is the real talent. Musicians and composers have been > stealing from each other since the beginning of time, and if you look > hard enough, you can convince yourself that virtually nobody creates > an original work. Some are more creative in their thefts than others: Good point. It all goes back to Africa. Whole rock music as we know it stems from Chicago blues. There's this quote I alyways remeber in these situations (forgot the author): 'If the original blues artists had copyright control, then today there would be no rock and roll music'. > Having heard only STP's first album, I would also classify them as a > contemptible ripoff band. If I were to hear their newer efforts, maybe > I would change my mind. Surely. Their second album is as far as you can go from that grunge (tm) sound without actually throwing out the guitar. :-) I even strongly disliked it at first listen just for that fact. Then, after a while, I've gotten over it and now I think it's way better (mature) than Core. - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ Subject: Rolling Stone From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Just got my Rolling Stone: Page 15 - picture of Cornell and the following: After canceling the European leg of last year's tour because of Chris Cornell's strained vocal cords, Soundgarden finished the job at Ireland's Sunstroke festival, with two new songs: "Flies" and "Ty Cobb." An LP is due next spring. Jamie ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: tuesday digestion... Um, i like core better than purple, i felt that stp had an identitiy when they did core. Not to try to limit people to a certain type of music, but, um, it seemed like purple was a pile of songs made to get on the radio. Yeah, i know, like "Lounge Fly" would ever get on the radio. But that's only because of the lyrics, not the music. I mean do you think Any other songs besides the ones that were on the radio from core would actually get played on a top 40 station? That's why i don't like purple, stp seem to be trying to fit in instead of being themselves musically. -j ***************************************************************************** "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" -"Plowed" by Sponge ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: LITTLE JOE Subject: Re: Haters of Silverchair Everywhere On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Avatar wrote: > > Hello, I'd just like to ask everyone who hates Silverchair to keep it to > themselves... they were awarded 6 ARIA awards last night at (suprisingly > enough...) the ARIA Awards presentation. That's damn good for a group of > 15-16 year old kids... Yeah, and they were so high on themselves that they didn't even go on stage to collect their awards, even though they were at the presentation. Instead they sent some little kid and a family friend or someone to collect them. It was a really amateurish arrogant thing to do. > What were you people doing when you were 16? Not releasing records that > get into the top ten US albums list, that's for sure... What does being in the top ten really signify? Anyone with a catchy tune can get there. there are tonnes of bands more talented than Silverchair that never make it to the top ten. Just look at the Australian top ten. 9 out of 10 weeks every song is dance music, and if it's not, it's Janet Jackson or a hair farm like Bon Jovi. > I'd be surprised to find that any of you have listened to more than 3 of > their songs anyway. As a fellow Australian I've been subjected to a bloody lot of it. Don't they get sick of a two-chord progression and singing like Kurt. I mean they are pretty good for their age, but they'd have to get a whole lot better and more original before they could be called musicians let alone 'original' artists. > For those of you who like to think of Silverchair as "Nirvana in pajamas" > well... you're correct to some extent, every band has their influences, > but that doesn't mean you should accuse them of having no originality > whatsoever. I own Bleach, Nirvana Unplugged, In Utero and Nevermind > and can say that their music style is NOT just a rip off of Nirvana, or > any other single band. Come on, it's Nirvana city. When I saw tomorrow for the first time I swore I was looking at an old Nirvana clip. It was the biggest rip-off of all time. It's allright that they have influences but people shouldn't go crazy over poor reworkings of Nirvana and Pearl Jam. This is no criticism of them, they are just playing what they want to, more power to them if they can make mega-bucks with that little effort. > If you haven't heard all of Frogstomp, I suggest you listen to it before > you criticise them any further. > - Avatar > > (If you're still insistent on condemning other peoples musical tastes, > either shut up, or buy a shotgun and some shells, load a shell into the > chamber, put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger.) > ___________________________ = ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN = =========================== ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Re:Best Lyric Howdy, by far and away my favorite all-time lyric of SG would be taken from Jesus Christ Pose-"It wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich, than to bury you poor, in your Jesus Christ Pose." I dunno why, but when Chris belts this tune out it leaves me realing as he carries the note from his trademark, intense scream to an almost devilishly low and dirty growl. OHH, it really flips my trigger just thinkin' about it(!?).... - -Ben.. - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: aae831@Waldo.Angelo.Edu (Greendoc) Subject: Who needs talent? THIS IS NOT A FLAME What is this thing about bands with no talent? I don't care if a band has any form of musical talent, as long as their music sounds halfway decent. Music is all about what kinds of sound waves are converted in your brain to sensations which please the mind. I don't care if Dean Deleo (guitarist for STP) can't play like Kim Thayil (I have no doubt in my mind that this is true). The music they put out is pleasureful (to me). If you don't like it, then don't buy it. Nobody's making you. Greendoc aae831@ramail.angelo.edu "Take, if you want a slice, if you want a piece, if it feels alright" --"My Wave"--SOUNDGARDEN "Oh, well, whatever, nevermind" --"Smells Like Teen Spirit"--NIRVANA ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: The great weiland On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Jovica Popovic wrote: > Actually, STP was around before PJ, but they couldn't land a deal (it > wasn't 'in' at the time), so they had to wait for Seattle scene to break > the ice. You cant honestly believe the list is going to belive this? STP the founders of Grunge...the founders of the Seattle sound? They've secretely been hiding the famous seattle sound from everyone since the late 80's? Only to unleash it upon the masses when .... and you said it not i.... when those copycats from seattle finally started to break! Oh I bow down to the greatness that is weiland...and I'm handing him a junk-filled syringe. Steven ------------------------------ From: URBANO(N) Subject: RE: Well, I do somewhat agree on this. Although two different artists can be co= mpared, the discussion would never reach an end. Eg, for someone who hates = older music (like LedZep), Plant will never reach CC's talent voice or what= ever, on the other hand, eventhough you lock your parents in a room with a= n eternal Soundgarden track, perhaps they will never lower R.Plant from bei= ng a semi-god. I also think that having many favorite bands is just OK, my favorite singer= is a sole guitarrist who nobody knows called Fernando Delgadillo. I think = it is pointless to metion him because he not knows even here in M=E9xico. P= erhaps I'll dedicate him a WWW Page. If you ever hear him you'll notice he = is quite good and of course he is NOT from Seattle. = I might be taking an endless way... URB@NO - ---------- From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) Sent: Martes 3 de Octubre de 1995 2:03 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU I'm still somewhat confused, it seems very necessary on this list to compare and contrast everything possible with Soundgarden, and it's always the same. Okay, I like Soundgarden, and there aren't many days when they don't get played, but everytime somebody HAS to compare them with somebody else, and hey, what do you know, they always come top, kinda expected but don't you think shows a very un-opinionated = perspective? Is it possible to have two favorite bands, perhaps three = or four, maybe more? I know this is a Soundgarden mailing list but is that as far as it goes? Look at the Cornell/Plant debate, how can two very individual artists, from two very different era's be compared. Neither can be considered better than the other. Both have proved themselves to be what they are, musicians, and both have become influences for many, including myself. I'm not gonna say one is better than the other, because there is no point, music is music, to be listened to, to be talked about, but not to be graded. =2E ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Sam M.) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 3 Oct 1995 > >From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) >To: somms@MIT.EDU > > >Ha. My votes weren't counted because I didn't pick Seattle bands in my > top 10, I didn't realise I had to restrict my own musical tastes, and > oh, what a choice there is. I don't even think I have 10 albums by > Seattle bands. How about a new top 10, say, for example, the best 10 > albums that happened to be released in February and on a day when it > rained. Just as pointful if you ask me, but whatever. > Good point. Who's counting anyway? Is the idea that the results will be compiled to form the definitive top ten Seattle albums of the nineties? I've never seen a record store index their collection by city of origin so i cannot see how anyone can gather a pool from which to pick the best from city X. Also, Nirvana is from Aberdeen. The dissident lists are much more interesting anyway since they give the reader some sense of the taste profile of an SG fan. Here's the Top Ten Recordings In My Collection: 1. Band of Gypsies (sefl-titled) - Distributed as "Jimi Hendrix -- Band of Gypsies" but it was supposed to be a new band. B.O.G. survived about two weeks until Jimi decided he wasn't into it and walked off the stage at Madison Square Garden, 2. Physical Graffiti - The best studio album of all time. 3. "Led Zeppelin: Danish TV appearance, 3/69" -- Call it waht you want. I taped this off the popular bootleg video. Page when he was still a technician. 4. Beethoven's 9th Symphony--Roll over Chuck Berry. (Now don't I sound cultured?) 5. The Swing of Delight (Devadip Carlos Santana) -- From Carlos' Buddhist days when he changed his name and played some weird shit with Sri Chinmoy and Herbie Hancock. 6. Ultramega Ok -- The Listadmin is right, as always. This is the best. 7. Spirit of Saint Louis (Rush) -- Bootleg from the Permanent Waves tour. Any pre-Signals live Rush will do just fine. What the hell happened to them? 8. White Album (Beatles) -- I'm not even sure if I have this one but it plays in my mind. Has anyone else notice the similarity between the solos of Thayil and Harrison? 9. Nevermind -- Oh whatever... 10. Sailing the Seas of Cheese (Primus, seguro) -- "There's a foot at the end of each of my legs...There was food inside my mouth today...If a graham cracker gets you off...Is it Luck?" Genius. Honorable mention to Danzig I, Temple of the Dog, and all Zeppelin, Hendrix, and...well most of what I own. I wouldn't have bought them if I didn't like them. These lists are such self-indulgent endeavors. Samson, Sammy, whatever. ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: Top Ten Albums > 3. Offspring - Smash I thought that this album was okay but that Ignition was better. ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: who cares?? > > Hear, hear!! Who really cares if they are gay, were women, go to bed early, > love pizzas, hate aeroplanes, don't smoke, do drink, whatever whatever > WHATEVER?? > > Me, I also like 'em for their music. It did amuse me that someone wrote > they're now turned off by the Foo Fighters because they sing a song that's > supposed to be about someone being gay.....................are people really > THAT insecure about their own sexuality that they feel threatened if someone > else out in the big wide world is different from themselves???? > I completely agree with that. I have a friend who refuses to listen to Blind Melon because he thinks that Shannon Hoon is gay. I don't really listen to them because I don't like their music that much. But judging a band and their music based on sexual preference, religion, drug abuse or whatever is totally wrong. Except of course for oui.. which is just screwed up. ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: SG office bods > I know how you feel, guys. I am trapped within a circle of friends who are > into soul, pop and that lovey-dovey stuff, not to mention those monotonic > club sounds like jungle and house. Most of my friends are into the Dead, Zep, Phish, Dave Matthews and stuff like that. So when I have friends over my house and I start playing something like Fourth of July or Outshined they immediately say "turn this crap off." I mean I like zep, pink floyd, and a little dave matthews but I love Soundgarden. At least they're not into that techno crap.. :) "The Juice is loose..." -A friend's response to The Verdict. ------------------------------ From: LITTLE JOE Subject: Re: your mail Ok stacy, I'm glad to hear ,(but suspicious) of your new found musical knowledge. Hopefully we won't have to put up with any of your abusive rantings any more. Far be it from me to challenge your right to voice your highly esteemed opinion, but once again it seems you failed to read what was plainly put in front of you. My response had nothing to do with any of your previous comments or whatever it is you have dredged up about the Page/Cornell debate. I was merely referring to your 'abuse for the hell of it' of Steven Jr's idea of a top ten Seattle list. This is not to say that you haven't supplied ample postings to which I could have responded, but this is the one that was the most blatant in my opinion and besides on all the others people beat me to flaming you. To quote you: "Tackling an issue doesn't mean you have to agree with it..." - - no but it sure helps if you get your facts straight first. As for my opinion, i'm glad you find it interesting. I'm sorry I can't say the same about yours. Maybe it would help if you tried to present your arguments with some more valid points interspersed through the quagmire of abuse. You don't have to agree but at least be civil. What do I think of my own opinion? Hopefully it is interesting, but I'm certainly not arrogant enough to suggest that it's as important as Chris Cornell's or as you would have us believe, YOURS. ___________________________ = ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN = =========================== ------------------------------ From: Askairi Williams Subject: Missing mail Once again I bring thee good tidings from the land of the collegiate , the land of Westminster College . I am sorry to report that I have been on vacation for 5 days and have not added my , well shall we say , brillant responses and input into the usual intellectually stimulating brew of " Gardner Mix ." I will however be back on the trail of Knowledge and his bastard son Truth very soon . ( Heard it somewhere ( The State ) ? ) Untill then I bid you good Gardening . College Boy ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 59] ***************************************