From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 3 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 00:23:36 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 3 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Hillarious Directory! Re: My Junk Re: All bands together Re: collaborations Re: Hillarious Directory! Re: Re: answers Re: My Junk Re: Kim...was he once a woman? Re: no subject Re: Best Lyric Re: All bands together Re: fell on black days (demo/early version) Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 2 Oct 1995 Re: All bands together my very own flame Re: All bands together Re: Kim...was he once a woman? Re: And the wreck of us is the death of us all Re: All bands together Re: All bands together Re: And the wreck of us is the death of us all Re: My Junk Re: All bands together More on "All bands together" the official site is back up Re: Hillarious Directory! RE: Kim...was he once a woman? Diagnostics Used CD's Uh hold up... Re: MY ten faves, etc..... MY ten faves, etc..... Monday 2, October, 1995 Re: Monday 2, October, 1995 how could I leave this behind? I'm BACK album murmurs Chaos? Sounds cool Moon's Top Ten List... Silverchairmania Re: Chaos? Sounds cool Re: Moon's Top Ten List... Avatar NEEDS the digest! Prez = Punk = Power Chords The other day... Tired of top tens... Replys Stacy Meyrick ------------------------------------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Hillarious Directory! List: Check out the member directory, I never thought our listadmin looked like that. 8^) And please, submit your photos (your real photos I mean). doubtful as always, URB@NO http://campus.ccm.itesm.mx:8090/~al703635/main.html . ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: My Junk At 12:22 PM 9/29/95 -0400, Chicka Jackeen wrote: >Hey, everyone, i'd like to know what your favorite album is that it seems >like no one else has heard of. > Anyone else >have albums like that? > Australian's might know them, but they might not link them with Soundgarden - - I really like Caligula, mainly 'cos of the keyboardist - he knows what keyboards and samplers are for! Caligula's album Rubenesque I found to be really excellent but many may not like their style - they're a bit of techno with a hard-core 16-beat rhythm and screaming guitar I like 'em! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) To: somms@MIT.EDU Ha. My votes weren't counted because I didn't pick Seattle bands in my top 10, I didn't realise I had to restrict my own musical tastes, and oh, what a choice there is. I don't even think I have 10 albums by Seattle bands. How about a new top 10, say, for example, the best 10 albums that happened to be released in February and on a day when it rained. Just as pointful if you ask me, but whatever. And yes, EJ Fry, the Levellers are a fine band. Unfortunately, they don't come from Seattle so they don't count, apparently. Oh, my grant's not through yet so you'll have to make do with the plaque below, a bit cheap I know. If you still want purple, use a permanent marker on the screen, it should work. --------------- | TO MY BEST | | FRIEND | | X X X X X X | --------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: All bands together From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > The tape is mainly a kind of joint effort from a bunch of different bands >working together such as Del the funky homosapien & Dinosaur Junior, >Sir mix a lot & Mudhoney, Run D.M.C & Living Colour and Ice-T & Slayer. >So how about different bands like this for Soundgarden to record with. >I think an interesting if nothing else pairing would be The Shamen & >Soundgarden. > >Could be some interesting suggestions Dan I have always enjoyed two totally different types of bands combining to create something new. Or the occasional jointing of two bands that span a time difference (i.e., Zep and Arrowsmith). There is always the rock band joining with a classical back up (i.e., Deep Purple and the London Symphony or Guns N' Roses on December Rain (no I do not like Guns N' Roses - and that's strictly personality reason - any man that takes pride in hitting a women - is shit)). So who do we joint our beloved SG with - Plant and Cornell??? Kim going one on one with Page???? How about SG and Black Sabbath. Big jump SG with Seal!!!!!!!!! Jamie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: collaborations From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >On the topic of Collaborations, > How about Chris Cornell and Seal Singing Seal's song "Whirpool" > Chris/Seal singing Seasons, and Like Suicide. > Seal/Chris singing Future Love Paradise, If I could, Don't Cry. > Soundgarden and Seal doing: Mood for Trouble, Mind Riot, Head Down, Fell > on Black Days, >Clown Looks like Clown and I like Seal - anyone else think Seal's can put words together like our main man Chris? Jamie ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: Hillarious Directory! Um, where do i find the member directory? -j ***************************************************************************** "do you feel a flame that's burning as the candle dies? do you see the spirits stirring as you close your eyes? do you sense the slow advancement as the twilight thins? do you see the serpent dancing as it shields its skin?" - --The Tea Party, From the album "The Edges of Twilight" ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: Re: From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Subject: Re: animosity? from the list elite? >From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >> freaks, I can't help it if I don't know your name when you never post. We have >> been told that there are over 200 people on this list, so how come the same 10 >> or fewer post all the time. If my posting made you come out of the wood works > Well, I must say that one silly line in a posting sure did something. I received close to 250 responses from old and new member of the list. The last few days has seen some really good input from new people. Please keep it coming. Won't it be great when SG does put out a new CD and starts touring - we will have so much to talk about - and as you all know I love to talk and talk and talk (I'm like that bunny in the battery commercial) - only cuter. >Who are you trying to punish? Us! By depriving us of your posts! How cruel! Thank you Jovica and all the rest of you that posted kind words to me on this subject. Jamie PS: I liked the idea about the Tee's for our mail list - I'll take two - one medium to wear and one X-large to sleep in. PSS: I also must thank all the response to my Help posting - I will try each and everyone of them - I did try one thing - did you know that all the lights in an apartment complex will go out if you touch one of those bare wire to a wall outlet????? You all have know me long enough to tell you - my life tends toward the I love Lucy type world. How many people do you know get locked in a car wash (I did get the window shut before the third pass of the soap spray - it's hard to roll up a window when it's covered with soap). And like I told the Secret Service guys - If you didn't want me in the Oval Office - you shouldn't have left the door open. And I really could have gotten that First Aid instructor untied if my finger hadn't been stuck in the bottle. And one last thing - it is not true that the local gas station have a letter out stating I can't pump my own gas - that was just a simple accident with the gas pump - really. Luv you all ------------------------------ From: Michael K Devlin Subject: Re: answers On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, joseph a. burnett wrote: > first, enough people have already obliterated "steve's" seattle top 10 list > for including STP.......don't forget "stolen prayer--" filter is from > cleveland. to moon druid----Alice in Chains new disc is out the first week > of october. and i feel including the Prez. of the United state of am. in a > seattle top 10 list would be like including candlebox-----both from seattle, > but not part of the scene...........just an opinion........bye JOe > > THIS GUY IS WAY COOL! MD ------------------------------ Subject: Re: My Junk From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >> On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: >> >> > Hey, everyone, i'd like to know what your favorite album is that it seems >> > like no one else has heard of. "Incesticide" is heard of. Soundgarden >> > albums don't count. "Hater" is heard of. I mean albums that might jump >> > out of a bin and stay in your stereo for months at the time. Anyone else >> > have albums like that? >> > >undertow- tool has been in my player for a little while.. of course this >album has been heard of but not really by everyone.. > > Great idea, but this months CD would not sit well with most of you - but, if you must know.... A Beautiful Word (it's a new age type CD - heavy on the drums and lyrics that move the world) - again I know it is not most of your taste - it can found in Ergo type stores "Natural Wonders" "Nature Company". You do know the pallet must be cleans before each course - Last month I played White Zombie to death, this month Beautiful World, next maybe a new SG. Jamie ------------------------------ From: Michael K Devlin Subject: Re: Kim...was he once a woman? THIS IS A BIG LOAD OF BULL SHIT. KIM IS ASIAN, THAT'S WHY HE'S NAMED KIM. DON'T YOU (COLLECTIVELY) EVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MY MAN! "I would love to..." -OJ On Sat, 30 Sep 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > Well guys...I was interviewing a band tonight (which I might be singing for > soon :)...) and one of them reads guitar player. We were talking SG when he > screamed out "Holy shit! Kim Thayil! He used to be a woman!" of course > disturbed by this...I thought for a second. I know only one male Kim...it's > not a common name...is our fave Kim an ex Kimberly? > > Moon Druid > > ...Say it a'int so! - Weezer - Clean band of the decade > ------------------------------ From: Michael K Devlin Subject: Re: no subject HERE WE GO AGAIN. "I pleade the Fifth." -OJ On Sat, 30 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > What issue of spin was that? And does anyone think that certain pictures > of Kim bear a brief resemblance to that Charles Manson guy? (Getting out > my flame reisitors), j > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Best Lyric From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > >> Since we're creating top ten lists, I would like to start my own. Will >> everyone please send me 1) Everyone's Favorite Soundgarden Lyric/Song Verse This is a bit late - Favorite SG Lyric - "Damn" - Big Dumb Sex OK, is one word a lyric - I think so - Chris gives so much feeling to this one word in the song, it's soft and low, almost dark, you could almost miss it - but that one word tells you more than all the I'm gonna in the song. It's not listed on any of the lyric pages either. Jamie ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: All bands together Personally, I'd love to see what happens if you put CC and Jimmy Page in a studio together. I have a feeling the result could only be defined as a religeous experience. Greg ------------------------------ From: Michael K Devlin Subject: Re: fell on black days (demo/early version) MISTAKES CAN HAPPEN IN LYRIC POSTINGS. NOBODY'S PERFECT. "It happens." -OJ On Sun, 1 Oct 1995 devilhead@bbs.cowland.com wrote: > i made a log file of the lyrics to this song off the www page, and it > interprets one of the lines as saying "driving round like spaceships on > mall tires.." umm... i don't know about anyone else... but bald tires > makes a whole lot more sense to me than mall tires... I dunno, i love > soundgarden and everything but I'm not half the expert i wish i was, but > has this occurred to anyone else? > there.. said my piece. > -devilhead (a lame user.. NOT tha band's account) > :) > my $.02... you probably want your money back.. > > > ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Sam M.) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 2 Oct 1995 > > >> Jesus... > >No, my name is Steve. Amen, brother. But you are far too modest. The two sat watching Stone Temple Pilots And Beavis sayeth unto Butthead "They copy Pearl Jam do they not?" And Butthead sayeth back "No, brother, Pearl Jam copyeth them." Forgive them for they know not what they do. ******************************************* Sharing a cigarette with negativity Sitting here like wet ashes with X's in my eyes And drawing flies. ******************************************* Sammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy ------------------------------ Subject: Re: All bands together From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Personally, I'd love to see what happens if you put CC and Jimmy Page in a >studio together. I have a feeling the result could only be defined as a >religeous experience. > >Greg > > Ahhhh Greg, a man of good taste and breeding...... Now do you think Plant and Chris could sing together???? Jamie ------------------------------ From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) Subject: my very own flame > get ready kids....here is a flame..... Oh boy! One of those, finally! And it's mine, mine, all mine... Let's see what we can make of it... > > Oh, I see... So, you're The Enlightened One, the definitive authority on > > what's cool and what's not. > Yes, that would be I. Is it cool for anyone over the age of 17 to like > Silverchair. I think not. If you think it's OK...the line into the high I really don't know. I live in Croatia. I've never heard a note they played. Never seen 'em, never even seen what their album looks like, let alone listened to it. And, what's more, I'm 21. I'm _not_ arguing what their music is worth as I really don't know. What irritetes me, and what I'm talking about is your attitude towards other peoples chioce of music. People have the right to choose and like what they want to, without you telling that what that is. You are entitled to an opinion, yours, but that's it. Nobody appointed you to jugde and put others down for their opinion. You act the same way MTV does: Here it is, like it because I said so. > Kids on the Block and Menudo forms to the left. Do record companies and > shitty butt-rock bands (see above list) exploit artists into sounding like > whatever's HOT at a given moment? I think so. I've been "paying Of course. Fact of life. Not even SG are all free of that sin. > attention" to the music industry for too long to know that what they are > forcing down our throats as "cool"...is just an attempt to rip the last > dollar from your flannel pockets. But, aren't you trying to do the same thing here? You're forcing something else down our throats. Damn, I'm starting to develop a sore throat... > Stone Temple Pilots - The Kingdom Come of the 90's. Possesor of the most > uncharismatic one named lead singers ever. Though he tried to increase his > street cred by becoming a stylish junkie. Smack kills. Unfortunately it > always gets the wrong people. Have you listened to Purple? I bet not. Undisputably great album. And truly far far away from PJ-wannabe style everyone pegged them to be. BTW, one named? Isn't he Scott Wieland? > Silverchair - Soundkindergarden, Pearlvana etc. Not a shred of Never heard. > Dig - During the height of Nirvanamania...MTV reals out these untalented Never heard. > managers and most of all blame yourself for buying into the big lie. Your > stupidity (and mine) guarantees it's gonna happen again and again and > again.... Of course. That's why I'm not a lemming when it comes to music. I listen. But, not to MTV, and even not to 'authoritarian know-alls' like you. I listen to the music and then decide for myself. Hey, I even like Spin Doctors! Have you listened to their rendition of Spanish Castle Magic? Awesome. - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ From: Michael K Devlin Subject: Re: All bands together On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Greg Bensimon wrote: > Personally, I'd love to see what happens if you put CC and Jimmy Page in a > studio together. I have a feeling the result could only be defined as a > religeous experience. > > Greg > I agree. As a long time Led Zep fan, I think any type of work done by Chris and Page together could only be good. That is my opinion, and (by definition) may not agree with yours. MD ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Kim...was he once a woman? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >THIS IS A BIG LOAD OF BULL SHIT. KIM IS ASIAN, THAT'S WHY HE'S NAMED KIM. >DON'T YOU (COLLECTIVELY) EVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MY MAN! Does saying he has the best buns in the group count as something bad????? Hey, this comment can't be any more sillier than saying Kim was a woman - give me a break....... Jamie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: And the wreck of us is the death of us all From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Second. What is it that compels us to come to this place and yap, yap, yap >about four guys we don't even know? I mean, I understand why I'm here. I >have absolutely nothing to do all day and all night, and I can't peel my >face off of this computer screen. But we can't all be so idle? Or can we? I can't speak for the other on this list, but I'm here because I work in a straight, middle of the road, slightly boring office filled with people who have no idea who Soundgarden is. Most of my friends and family are nice, normal, fun people, but again they don't have any idea who Soundgarden is. Either I'm a freak in the normal world, or I need to change my lifestyle (can't make to much money here). So, to find the SG mail list was a blessing for me. Besides it breaks the pain of every other e-mail being work related. And the best part is meeting you really cool people out there - it can be scary at times - to think some of you are out there, waiting in the shadows, ready to pounce. I got the same feeling working on the local crisis hot line. How can there be so many sickie out there - joke!!!!!!! Jamie ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: All bands together > Ahhhh Greg, a man of good taste and breeding...... Now do you think Plant and > Chris could sing together???? > > Jamie That's actually a tough one to answer... First of all, both of their voices are so strong, I'm not so sure how well they would work together. Second of all, their writing styles are so different. Cornell is typically dark and filled with rage, Plant is more fantasy. The times I've seen Plant try to sing really "hard", I wasn't too impressed. Now that I think about it though, maybe something bluesy would work well. Comments, compliments, flames??? Greg B.T.W. I don't want to hear how I'm an idiot for not liking Plant or Zeppelin. Believe me, I am in awe of both. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: All bands together From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >> Ahhhh Greg, a man of good taste and breeding...... Now do you think Plant and >> Chris could sing together???? >> Jamie >That's actually a tough one to answer... >First of all, both of their voices are so strong, I'm not so sure how well they >would work together. >Second of all, their writing styles are so different. Cornell is >typically dark and filled with rage, Plant is more fantasy. The times >I've seen Plant try to sing really "hard", I wasn't too impressed. >Now that I think about it though, maybe something bluesy would work well. >Comments, compliments, flames??? >Greg >B.T.W. I don't want to hear how I'm an idiot for not liking Plant or >Zeppelin. Believe me, I am in awe of both. No, flames here, your right on the money. I have said it before and I'll say it again. Both men have great voices and write well (I do think that Chris is better than Plant - for the reason you have stated Chris is more real world and Plant is fantasy). Plant can handle the slower type music, his voice does not lean toward the hard and gut sound that Chris can produce. Blues would be a good road for these two to travel together - maybe an old Muddy Waters number? Jamie ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: And the wreck of us is the death of us all > I can't speak for the other on this list, but I'm here because I work in a > straight, middle of the road, slightly boring office filled with people who > have no idea who Soundgarden is. Most of my friends and family are nice, > normal, fun people, but again they don't have any idea who Soundgarden is. > Either I'm a freak in the normal world, or I need to change my lifestyle (can't > make to much money here). Alright, someone I can relate to! I spend all day in an office surrounded by people who think I'm either psychotic or juvinile because I'm in to SG, AIC, etc. No, I just like the music. Sorry you can't relate. Know what I mean? Greg ------------------------------ From: Luis A Betancourt Subject: Re: My Junk Hey EJ, I love tool's Undertow but I have another album by them that is better. It might be Opiate I don't know because I got it taped for me on a blank tape and the person who gave it to me (actually he left it in my car) never wrote the name of it. Anyway it has a bunch of cool songs like "You are just a Part of me", and one that has a chorus that goes Jesus Christ why don't you come save my life... Anyway I just got this live Pearl Jam album that is absolutely incredible! In fact I just saw them in New Orleans and they fuckin' kicked ass! They even had Joey Ramone come on stage and sing with Eddie! This album isn't a bootleg(it sounds too good but it is an import so my friend paid a lot for it) This may be that type of C.D. that will be in my system for weeks! luis betancourt (904) 378-1566 lab5150u@grove.ufl.edu On Sat, 30 Sep 1995, EJ Fry wrote: > Ever hear of Opiate by Tool??? I think its even better than Undertow... > > On Sat, 30 Sep 1995, Malkav wrote: > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, everyone, i'd like to know what your favorite album is that it seems > > > > like no one else has heard of. "Incesticide" is heard of. Soundgarden > > > > albums don't count. "Hater" is heard of. I mean albums that might jump > > > > out of a bin and stay in your stereo for months at the time. Anyone else > > > > have albums like that? > > > > > > undertow- tool has been in my player for a little while.. of course this > > album has been heard of but not really by everyone.. > > > > > ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: All bands together > No, flames here, your right on the money. I have said it before and I'll say > it again. Both men have great voices and write well (I do think that Chris is > better than Plant - for the reason you have stated Chris is more real world and > Plant is fantasy). Plant can handle the slower type music, his voice does not > lean toward the hard and gut sound that Chris can produce. Blues would be a > good road for these two to travel together - maybe an old Muddy Waters number? > > Jamie > My blood brother! That would be excellent! Greg "Someday I'll get a catchy sig file going again..." ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: More on "All bands together" Here's an odd one. What about Matt and Carlos Santana? What kind of latin rythms do you think Matt could lay down? (O.K., this one may be a little wierd, but I've always loved the passion that seems to eminate from Carlos.) Come to think of it, how about Matt and Tito Puente (I hope I spelled that right)? Better yet, Matt, Carlos, and Tito. All instrumental. No lyrics to get in the way? Greg ------------------------------ Subject: the official site is back up From: seth here's the scoop: - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Mon, 2 Oct 95 06:51:39 UT From: "Scott Blum" To: "seth" Subject: RE: the site is down? we moved the server. It should work from Rocktropolis now, and all other problems should be solved by the end of Monday. Thanks for the help! - - ---------- From: seth Sent: Saturday, September 30, 1995 12:56 PM To: Scott Blum Subject: the site is down? Neither I nor anyone else has been able to access the Soundgarden site in two days. We just keep getting a "URL not found" error. Even trying to access it from Rocktropolis doesn't work. What's the deal? seth - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Hillarious Directory! From: seth > Um, where do i find the member directory? -j http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list/ seth ------------------------------ From: Michael Barnes Subject: RE: Kim...was he once a woman? I thought Kim was Indian (as in East...) Am I wrong? Pls. let me know. Happy SG day! MB ---------- From: Michael K Devlin[SMTP:mdevlin@ic.sunysb.edu] Sent: Monday, October 02, 1995 9:55 AM To: MoonDruid Cc: somms Subject: Re: Kim...was he once a woman? THIS IS A BIG LOAD OF BULL SHIT. KIM IS ASIAN, THAT'S WHY HE'S NAMED KIM. DON'T YOU (COLLECTIVELY) EVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MY MAN! "I would love to..." -OJ On Sat, 30 Sep 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > Well guys...I was interviewing a band tonight (which I might be singing for > soon :)...) and one of them reads guitar player. We were talking SG when he > screamed out "Holy shit! Kim Thayil! He used to be a woman!" of course > disturbed by this...I thought for a second. I know only one male Kim...it's > not a common name...is our fave Kim an ex Kimberly? > > Moon Druid > > ...Say it a'int so! - Weezer - Clean band of the decade > ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (Muhammad Lee) Subject: Diagnostics Everyone, I would just like to thank everyone for thier responses to my favorite lyrics request. I am going to compile them on sunday so everyone who hasn't done so yet please send them in. The current Leaders are 1)Tie Between Big Dumb sex, The Day I tried to Live, Rusty Cage 2) Rusty Cage 3) Again rusty cage, and Stairway to heaven. For those that missed the first post the request was. 1)Favorite soundgarden verse/Lyric 2)Favorite seattle band Lyric/Verse 3)Favorite Lyric/Verse of all time. I haven't decide yet weather to post a top 5, top 10 or just the number 1 it just depends on how many people write in. Clown With Bazooka _______________________________________________________________________________ There's something about screaming fuck at the top of your lungs that's almost universal. It's a lot more common need than getting high or getting laid. - Kim Thayil _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: JWH7057@ritvax.isc.rit.edu Subject: Used CD's Hey I have been looking for any place to sell or buy some used CD's, mostly soundgarden... if anyone has any, or knows of a good place to go, can you please let me know?? Thanx -Jeff :) ------------------------------ From: Minerva657@aol.com Subject: Uh hold up... first to Seth...i have the same problem at the Rocktropolis site...i thought i just had a crap hookup or something, i dunno...anyway, as to that uh, lovely little thingy sent by so-called soundgarden (heh heh) well, 'tis fun to invent, is it not? lovempathy, danielle ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: MY ten faves, etc..... EJ's TOP TEN (for this week, at least) NOTE: Notice there are no Pink Floyd, Zep, Jimi, Clapton, Mozart, Tchaikovsky,Rossini, etc. albums, for they are God-sent and too divine to be soiled by being put on some mere list. SO, in no particular order: 10-PRIMUS "Frizzle Fry" My boys from the Bay Area back when they sung about weird things like too many puppies, pudding time, some kid named John, some guy named Harold, and toys that wind down. 9-HASH self-titled. Nobody knows about these guys. Why? They're awesome. The song Mr. Hello is enough to make you get all hot and bothered...ummm...yeah. 8-ALICE IN CHAINS "SAP" You know why this is on my list, if not, buy this disc NOW. 7-JANE'S ADDICTION "Nothing's Shocking" No explination needed for this one. 6- LAUNDRY "Blacktongue" This is Herb's (Primus drummer) alter-ego band, and they are incredible. I dont know what a chapman stick is, but it sounds like a bass and it kicks ass. So does Herb. A lot. 5- CHARLIE HUNTER TRIO self-titled This is their album before they got signed to Blue Note. Again, they're from the Bay Area. I love Bay Area bands. Can you guess where I'm from???? 4- TOOL "Opiate" Truly, this is better than the one everybody knows, "Undertow". Honestly! Two live tracks sound like studio perfection. The song Opiate, however, is not for Christian types. Why? TOOL don't like Chritians. I like TOOL. 3- JOHN McLAUGHLIN "Live at the Royal Festival Hall" I'm trying to keep jazz from this list, but this is too good to pass up. My boy Trilok Gurtu is one of the best drummers I've ever heard in my life. You have not heard what good drumming is until you hear this man play. 2- SOUNDGARDEN "Superunknown" and "Badmotorfinger" and "Louder Than Love" 1- see number 2 comments??? questions??? bagels??? ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: MY ten faves, etc..... i would feel left out if i didn't throw in my change into the "top 10" basket.....first of all, its not a seattle top 10 list, cause i probably dont know 10 seattle albums, and even if i do, they arent all my favorites. second, they're not all from the same category of music........so if you are a dedicated "alternative" person (and please note my extreme sarcasm), you probably wont care what i have to say. but if you have an open an educated ear for good music, both lyrically and instrumentally, then you may or may not have heard these bands, but you should: (granted, some are gimmes): 1. FREEDY JOHNSTON-------This Perfect World-------I have yet to find one person outside from my group of friends who has ever heard of this album, or even knows who Freedy Johnston is.....it is by and far the most original, thoughtful, and poetic album i have ever heard.........if you have heard of it, PLEASE email me-----im lonely.......if you havent, please buy it....if you are a human being with thoughts and emotions, you will love this disc. 2. INDIGO GIRLS-------Rights of Passage--------call me a pussy or a lesbian if you like, but if you enjoy lyrically deep music and good voices.......... 3.SOUNDGARDEN........Badmotorfinger..........that's a gimme 4. THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS-------Flood--------if you like to be happy....... which more people shoud be!!!!stop being so repressed!!!!! 5. PEARL JAM..........Unnecessary Roughness (IMport)......for PJ fans, a must......... 6. JIMMY BUFFETT-------Greatest Hits------I like to drink beers to this disc...if you like something else, fine. 7. OFFSPRING-------Smash---------if you want to dismiss them as sellouts, youre missing out on a punk band that actually has something to say..... 8. NOTORIOUS BIG------Ready to Die--------probably not many rap fans here, but........ 9. 311------Music---------Like the Beastie Boys, on a Violent Femmes tip.....very cool 10. DADA--------Puzzle--------if you dig the beatles at all, this is cool. There, i've said it, and of course, this is all recent music, because all time top 10s would probably include none of these, giving way to the doors, dylan, zeppelin, etc.......if you've heard of any of these bands (except the gimmes), email me with info......if you dont like my list, tough......... I throw myself and my opinions to the rath of the SG gods (that would be you guys) JOe ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Monday 2, October, 1995 Hey list! My views of Stone Tempah Peirgos will never change(unless they actually make a halfway decent album). They are a bunch of NO talent copycat rip off artists only in the biz to make a buck. They have NO talent (repeated for a reason) and should never be uttered in the same breath as Soundgarden. Dont worry those of you that cant stand STP, they wont be around much longer. (think spin doctors) Have you ever put the guitar riffs to vaseline and SG's "she's a politician" together? Why did they even bother to change a little bit. They basically stole the entire thing. Have you done the same thing with SG's Flower and Helmet's "In the Meantime"? Just picked up a promo copy of Mark Arm's new band "Bloodloss". If you like Mudhoney you'll like it. Imagine those 60's cop flicks soundtracks juiced up with some good old seattle grunge. (mudhoney was the only real grunge band anyway...) throw in some surfer music and start doing the monkee...Jamie might know what I'm talking about. Got a surprise in the mail from the folks at Geffen records over the weekend. Seems I won some contest (my first actually). I won the entire Sonic Youth CD and video collection. One of the video's was a copy of SY's _1991 the year punk broke_. I highly suggest that you see it. The SY CD's are pretty cool. I saw them open for Neil YOung back during the Gulf War. They basically confused the shit out of Neil's audience. Back to the SY CD's...the new album is OK. I wish I got the package earlier. It was recieved at my house 2 weeks before the general public got a hold of the regular CD....lastly, the thurston moore solo CD is quite good. It's especially good because part of the contest winnings included thurston signing it! Anyone else ever win something similar to this? comments: to the person who repeated the beavis n buttmunch quote about STP, Very good....I cant stop laughing becasue I saw that episode...your quote reminded me of it....LOLOL! Anyone got the capacities to actually make T-shirts? We really should get something printed up. Artists on this list...submit your works of art to Seth. He can put them somewhere on the website...maybe? That is a good idea to wear them at future SG concerts. I'll be at the Toronto, Buffalo (vacinity) and Cleveland shows (work schedule permitting). Maybe I should actually send Seth a picture for the member directory list...hmmmmm...... I'd still like to see my Kyle Petty, Son of Richard idea that I posted a couple of months ago to a.m.s Lastly, they've come to a verdict in the OJ Simpson case. Now's your chance to make a prediction. The verdict will be read at 1pm EST tomorrow. I say the jury will find him not guilty. Steven Albums that never leave my car CD player whenever I go on a roadtrip.... Jesus and Mary Chain - Automatic Tragically Hip - Fully Completely Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Swervedriver - Mescal Head Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Monday 2, October, 1995 From: seth > Have you ever put the guitar riffs to vaseline and SG's "she's a politician" > together? Why did they even bother to change a little bit. They basically > stole the entire thing. This is the kind of stuff that you can't really argue about. Someone has to set a standard and you have to expect that subsequent musical attempts will be based on that standard, even if it means copying it verbatim. Just take comfort in the knowledge that whoever set the standard is the real talent. Musicians and composers have been stealing from each other since the beginning of time, and if you look hard enough, you can convince yourself that virtually nobody creates an original work. Some are more creative in their thefts than others: there is a song by the Doors that contains a huge segment from Aaron Copland's "Billy the Kid", but for some reason, I find merit in this, because I think the Doors had some talent. And then, like you say, there are artists who rip off other artists because their own talent (or lack thereof) is inadequate, which I find intolerable. Having heard only STP's first album, I would also classify them as a contemptible ripoff band. If I were to hear their newer efforts, maybe I would change my mind. > Anyone got the capacities to actually make T-shirts? We really should > get something printed up. Artists on this list...submit your works of > art to Seth. He can put them somewhere on the website...maybe? That is > a good idea to wear them at future SG concerts. I'll be at the Toronto, > Buffalo (vacinity) and Cleveland shows (work schedule permitting). Maybe > I should actually send Seth a picture for the member directory > list...hmmmmm...... Hey, good idea. Send me a picture. And all of you people out there better send me pictures as well. As for T-shirt artwork, send that to me too, and I will put it on another Web page so we can all look at it. In fact, to make it fair, I won't associate anyone's name with his/her artwork so it can be judged objectively. Hey, the artwork doesn't even have to be something you want to see on a T-shirt. It would be cool just to see some kind of Soundgarden image that each of you create (whether it be a scanned drawing or painting or a computer-generated graphic). Did I mention that the member directory is at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list/ Look at it. Send me pictures. seth ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: how could I leave this behind? On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, John Grieves wrote: > Whilst on the discussion of deep and meaningful lyrics, would anyone care to > analyse Big Dumb Sex? Me, being the shallow kinda lyrics' meanings finder I'll have a go john. and how are exams looking, btw :) I read that they wrote big dumb sex because they were tired of bands like aerosmith, ac/dc and motley crue writing songs with sexual innuendo type lyrics, where they don't literally say that they want to jump someone's bones (sorry). where they just skirt around the issue, like aerosmith with their song 'big ten inch...record'. so they wrote big dumb sex, a song that could not be misconstrued. so I guess that they aren't deep and meaningful lyrics at all. but hiro was in the band then, and he didn't like to play the song, because of it's (sorry again) cock rock overtones. maybe overtones was the wrong word to use :) but anyway, that is supposed to be their comedy song. I don't particularly like it, but I've heard them do big bottoms, and that is a crack up. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: I'm BACK and this time hangoverless. Thanks for the concern & the hangover tips I received from some of you............... My Carlton team won the Grand Final (killed 'em, in fact) and there was loads of celebrating done by me on Saturday night. Yes, my Soundgarden Stamina shone through. Anyway, having had a holiday yesterday there's even MORE soundgarden mail to read & some to respond to. I'll be getting around to it this afternoon. This message was just so's you all know I'm not dead (yeah - sorry to give you bad news like that) ~ Carolyn the Maddening Female ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: album murmurs I was reading a little article on soundgarden in the latest rip (?) magazine, and it was talking about what the guys are up to at the moment. the publicist said that they were playing the reading festival because they like to just turn up, sit around, come on and play, watch everyone else and talk to their friends. it would be a lot less stressful then headlining their own tour. but perhaps most important of all, the source said that the band has written "thirty killer new tracks", which is just music to my ears. I'd be happy to see another long album in the vein of superunknown, where the cd has about 15 songs on it, and they all go for about five minutes each. the more the merrier, I guess :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Chaos? Sounds cool Soon to enter the elite group ;) Devilhead said... >i've heard about this A&M video chaos volume 9 that has like 4 >soundgarden videos on it, any chance of me finding it anywhere? or how >about the video for flower, is that possible to find? i've heard that >there's a video for gun but i've never seen it. any ideas? I'll have to check into it. Gun is my fave song of all time. What are all of YOUR favorite songs? Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Moon's Top Ten List... From the home office in Sioux City Iowa...here's tonight's top ten list!!!! TOP TEN RECORDINGS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.......... 10 - Tad - Inhaler 9 - Pearl Jam - Vitalogy 8 - AIC - Dirt 7 - Z - Shampoo Horn 6 - Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger 5 - Hater - Hater (???) 4 - Candlebox - Candlebox 3 - ...HA!!!...HA!!! DOH!!! I couldn't hold it in!!!! ROTFLMFAO!!!!! okay, let's try this again.... 3 - Uhhhhhhhh....let's skip three 2 - Soundgarden - Superunknown 1 - Soundgarden - Louder Than Love Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Silverchairmania And the winner...BY WAY OF KNOCKOUT...is Steve!!!! >Yes, that would be I. Is it cool for anyone over the age of 17 to like >Silverchair. I think not. If you think it's OK...the line into the high >school cafeteia to view the collective works of the great 80's bands New >Kids on the Block and Menudo forms to the left. Do record companies and >shitty butt-rock bands (see above list) exploit artists into sounding like >whatever's HOT at a given moment? I think so. I've been "paying >attention" to the music industry for too long to know that what they are >forcing down our throats as "cool"...is just an attempt to rip the last >dollar from your flannel pockets. Look at it this way. SG was young when they first signed in Sub Pop. SUB POP!!! Not Capitol (Silverchair is on Cap, right?) or A&M for that matter. Live signed on Radio-Active for their first album. NKOTB signed on...oh who the fuck cares. Silverchair has been thrown to the top faster than Gomer Pyle can say "Schzam" because they were rambunctious teen-agers that wanted to see what it was like at the top. Soundgarden signed on Sub Pop, then SST, BEFORE they signed on A&M. Geffen, A&M, and Sony were knocking on Soundgarden's doors after they released Screaming Life. "Nope, give us a while." SG said. They came out with Fopp, A&M, Geffen, and Sony (with joint effort from Capitol too) said "Sign on us!!! We'll give you BIIIIG bucks!!!" and SG said, "Uhhhh...nope. We want to find out for ourselves what the industry is like." so they went to SST for UltramegaOK. David Geffen...the little fag...said "Nope, if you're gonna turn away from us, then wer're turning away from you." Sony said..."Hey, if you're not gonna take our offer, the buzz off. Good luck." Capitol said..."You know what? FORGET IT!!! DEAL'S OFF!!!" A&M said..."Good idea. That's pretty smart of you, actually. We're still available once you put out this album, so let's keep in touch, and if you're still intrested, so are we." That, my friends, is A) Why SG is on A&M and B) What sets the boys apart from most other groups. Moon Druid ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Chaos? Sounds cool From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Soon to enter the elite group ;) Devilhead said... > >>i've heard about this A&M video chaos volume 9 that has like 4 >>soundgarden videos on it, any chance of me finding it anywhere? or how >>about the video for flower, is that possible to find? i've heard that >>there's a video for gun but i've never seen it. any ideas? I have been looking to A&M video chaos V9 for some time now. No, one (record or video stores) have a listing of it. So, if anyone knows how to get your hands on it. SPEAK UP........ Jamie BTW: A few more hours and I will have put most of my week in already. Remember people - I get punchy and post strange things when I get tired - So beware, beware, I'm ever were ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Moon's Top Ten List... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >From the home office in Sioux City Iowa...here's tonight's top ten list!!!! > >TOP TEN RECORDINGS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.......... > >10 - Tad - Inhaler >9 - Pearl Jam - Vitalogy >8 - AIC - Dirt >7 - Z - Shampoo Horn >6 - Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger >5 - Hater - Hater (???) >4 - Candlebox - Candlebox >3 - ...HA!!!...HA!!! DOH!!! I couldn't hold it in!!!! ROTFLMFAO!!!!! > okay, let's try this again.... >3 - Uhhhhhhhh....let's skip three >2 - Soundgarden - Superunknown >1 - Soundgarden - Louder Than Love > >Moon Druid > > So, where the devil is Mother Love Bone. Jamie ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Avatar NEEDS the digest! While munching on a multi-colored cereal, Avatar said... >I bought UltramegaOK on my holiday and was a bit disappointed with it >after hearing BadMotorFinger and Superunknown... maybe it will grow on me... It will. I felt the same way after my first listening...you know? "ACK!!! CIRCLE OF POWER SUCKS!!!!" and "Beyond the wheel is better live." and "You know, part B, the slow stuff, sucks." Well, now my favorite song is Smokestack Lightning. Either that or Mood For Trouble. Or maybe it's All Your Lies. No, it's Flower. No....it's all of them. Don't worry, Av, you'll like it soon. And just to make sure of that, sing the lyrics to Beyond The Wheel. That'll get you into the song. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Prez = Punk = Power Chords Grote said... >i finally broke down and bought it and it is phenomenal. loopy, screwy >lyrics with some nifty instrumentation. (2-string bass, 3-string >guitar) i LOVE it. one of my favorites, and i've only owned it for >three days. Well, the one thing about them is they're a punk band...even if it's not obvious. Punk is a few power chords, so a three string'll do, and a two string bass'll do also because you can hit the important notes. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: The other day... The other day i went into Monster ecords on Franklin street and i saw "Ultramegaunknown". It was 30 bucks. i looked in my wallet. i didn't have even have 30 bucks to eat with for the rest of the week. "Ultramegaunknown" is now hidden in the store where only i (and maybe trained cd-sniffing police dogs) can find it. But i still don't get to listen to it. I miss being in high school. (Sighing in a Leonard Cohen afterlife), j ***************************************************************************** "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" -"Plowed" by Sponge ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Tired of top tens... Well, i usually like to know other peoples opinions, especially on music, and for the first 35 Top ten lists, i enjoyed reading them, but i'm getting to the point now where i really don't care how other people rate music. It's like Hootie and the Blowfish. I really can't criticize them as a band, but at the same time i have had my fill of their music. So, um unless there is something unconventional to say, when will the top ten lists end? (Expecting 249 flames), j ***************************************************************************** "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" -"Plowed" by Sponge ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: ADAMSON RICHARD J Subject: Replys Hi All, Tried to send this off a while ago but the mail box was full. Yes, sorry, I meant Larry Mullins Jnr. Derr!!! Jackhammer - I think Outshined is in 7/4 or at least the verse is. The Amiga Advertiser - Precisely my point about the negative use of 'commercial'. Thank you. Top ten albums...this is hard! John Coltrane - Coltranes Sound Died Pretty - Doughboy Hollow Nick Cave - The Good Son Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Hunters & Collectors - Ghost Nation The Cure - Distinegration The Church - Preist = Aura Swervedriver - Raise Jeff Buckley - Grace I'm going to hate myself for this but if I was stuck with these albums I could survive. Best live bands: The Young Gods, Grant Lee Buffalo, Hunters & Collectors, U2, Beasts Of Bourbon, Smashing Pumpkins, You Am I, Nirvana, Spy vs Spy, Front End Loader. I've seen some of these bands many times. They all did ONE shoe that blew me away. Unfortunately, Soundgarden failed to deliver on both occasions I saw them. Bands to look out for: You Am I, Front End Loader, Big Heavy Stuff, Pollyanna, Budd, Crow. See ya RICH. ------------------------------ From: LITTLE JOE Subject: Stacy Meyrick Do we really need Stacy Meyrick on this list? It's a tough choice to reduce to just 10 all the fine albums that have come out of Seattle. It seems Mr/Miss Meyrick can't tackle any subject put up on this list without finding some way of turning it into an abuse fest. It's not a matter of restricting your musical taste, it's more a matter of reading the question. Who cares if you don't like the category, it was only meant to be fun. Just one final point for you Stacy. Your opinion isn't as important as Chris Cornell's and for that matter anyone else's on this, I don't think it even rates as intelligent comment, all it ever is is mouthing off. Grow up, and get some musical knowledge before you come with your arrogance again. ___________________________ = ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN = =========================== ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 58] ***************************************