From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 1 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 01:50:59 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 1 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Clutch Re: Best Lyric Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. Re: Sex...guitars...and translations... Re: My Junk Re: My Junk Re: My Junk Re: My Junk no subject Re: My Junk Re: nephend and filter Re: no subject Rocktropolis Re: favorite ale Stereo Re: Moon Druid Let's not censor ourselves?!?! Fine...but GROW UP!!! Record bins! SOMMS T-Shirts! Re: Rocktropolis Re: favorite ale Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 30 Sep 1995 Top Ten.. everyone else is doin it! really, now Feeling the heat. ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Kevin Clifford Lien Subject: Clutch Someone askedi f anyone has heard of the band Clutch. I think they are a very good band, but I'm not sure some of you guys out there would like it. The singer has a very death metalesque grinding voice but the music doesn't sound like death metal (although it is quite heavy at times). A lot of their songs are just fun. If you feel like trying them I would recommend their first LP called Transnational Speedway Anthems (the new one is OK but their first one is better IMHO). The song A Shogun Named Marcus is a good time (my favorite Clutch song). That's all for now. Kevin ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Re: Best Lyric On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > Since we're creating top ten lists, I would like to start my own. Will > everyone please send me 1) Everyone's Favorite Soundgarden Lyric/Song Verse > 2) Everyone's Favorite Seattle Band Lyric/Song Verse > 3) Everyone's Favorite Song Verse of all time. OK. Here goes: #s 1 and 2: "Bit down on the bullet now I had a taste so sour I had to think of something sweet Love's like suicide Safe outside my gilded cage With an ounce of pain I wield a ton of rage Just like suicide." --C. Cornell #3: "And as we wind on down the road Our shadows taller than our soul There walks a lady we all know Who shines white light and wants to show How everything still turns to gold And if you listen very hard The tune will come to you at last When all are one and one is all To be a rock and not to roll." --R. Plant "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. Stacy- I would like a purple colored plaque, and a great big kiss. Thank you. ej ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. I noticed the Levellers as one of your top ten. HUZZAH! Celtic rock!!! I love them, I didn't think anybody knew of them! ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: Sex...guitars...and translations... Chris also plays on Gretch hollow body electics, and Kim has been seen with Guilds from time to time..... On Thu, 28 Sep 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > While drinking Red Stripe (aahhh, Jamaican good beer!), Jackhammer said, > > >Big Dumb Sex? > > It's basically an insult to all those crappy 80's songs that talked about > sex. 2 Live Crew is one of them that the song is directed at, ya know? Or the > shit-head formerly known as Prince. It's just sort of saying "Hey, you lousy > faggots...why do you have to go around the word fuck? Watch THIS!! FUCK, > FUCK, FUCK, FUCK YOU!!!" (no offense...please, sorry, I didn't mean it. > Anyone upset by that, well, you know...) > > >what sort of guitars do Kim Thayil and Chris Cornell play? > > They play Gibson guitars. Peavy amps. I love my Gibson. > > Moon Druid > ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: My Junk I have that one, its great! My album for this catagory would be the self-titled release: "Hash". It rocks, especially track3, "Mr. Hello". Check it out!!!! On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, The Back Door Man wrote: > "Going Back Home" by the Ginger Baker Trio. > > BDM > > On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > > > Hey, everyone, i'd like to know what your favorite album is that it seems > > like no one else has heard of. "Incesticide" is heard of. Soundgarden > > albums don't count. "Hater" is heard of. I mean albums that might jump > > out of a bin and stay in your stereo for months at the time. Anyone else > > have albums like that? > > > > "'Cause I heard it in the wind > and I saw it in the sky. > And I thought it was the end > and I thought it was the 4th of July." > --C. Cornell > > > ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: My Junk Ever hear of Opiate by Tool??? I think its even better than Undertow... On Sat, 30 Sep 1995, Malkav wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > > > > > Hey, everyone, i'd like to know what your favorite album is that it seems > > > like no one else has heard of. "Incesticide" is heard of. Soundgarden > > > albums don't count. "Hater" is heard of. I mean albums that might jump > > > out of a bin and stay in your stereo for months at the time. Anyone else > > > have albums like that? > > > > undertow- tool has been in my player for a little while.. of course this > album has been heard of but not really by everyone.. > > ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: My Junk On Sat, 30 Sep 1995, EJ Fry wrote: > Ever hear of Opiate by Tool??? I think its even better than Undertow... > yeah i have.. i haven't heard it though but i did hear that it was a lot better.. unfortunately i'm too poor to buy it.. :( ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: My Junk On Sat, 30 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > I have undertow. It jumps out of my cd player back into its case very > quickly. (No offense, it just doesn't affect me the way my other music > does) Oh, by the way, that means you get another vote. -j > well i have been listening to some sweetwater recently.. they're not the greatest but they're kindda cool.. ------------------------------ From: fe666@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles Cortez) Subject: no subject hey, did anyone check out the new spin magazine? they did this really cool article where they aged some music personalities,and one of them just happened to be chris cornell at age 51. he looked very scary. anyways, they predicted that chris cornell would go onto a solo career and the rest of the band would hire the talentless singer from candlebox. yeah sure. - -- >From the collective desks of: | 1994 Need For Speed- Charles Cortez Trent Michaels | Purple Haze biking Terri Wengel Nicole McFee | team Chris Iacofano | **-/TREK BIKES\-** ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: My Junk recordS that stays in my player alot: Hagfish - ... Rocks Your Lame Ass. post-'punk' band from my native Dallas. the Nixons - Foma. Another Dallas (kinda)-based group. Very dark, yet spirited. Helmet - Betty. NYC 'noise' band, but I'm sure ya'll have heard of them. RayDavid with Slingshot ------------------------------ From: Heather V Fielding Subject: Re: nephend and filter hello everyone boy nephend i think you're right about filter. i bought the cd as soon as i heard "hey man nice shot" and have been a devoted fan ever since. they're not sg, but they're pretty damn good. and so last tuesday i heard them live. an excellent show. everclear opened (saw something about them in todays somms) and they were even better. of course, i'm now suffering from the side effects of any great concert...my ears are ringing 5 days later. heather @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ inside, always trying to get back inside @ @ but it's so heard to penetrate this thick @ @ skin... @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: no subject What issue of spin was that? And does anyone think that certain pictures of Kim bear a brief resemblance to that Charles Manson guy? (Getting out my flame reisitors), j ------------------------------ Subject: Rocktropolis From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) Hi, just wondering if anyone was having the same problem I am. I have been trying the access the Rocktropolis/Soundgarden site and keep getting an error message "requested URL not found, http error: 404". I keep getting this message on the URL for Soundgarden and just plain Rocktropolis too. Is this just from my online access or are they doing something to the site? Thanks in advance for any help. "In the mirror shows another face another place to hide it all" Chris Cornell nephend ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: favorite ale On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > Where can i get a recording of the new version of Big Dumb Sex, or can i > at all? (Steve, don't flame me...) -j > It is on the Japanese EP "Loudest Love" which is pretty hard to find nowadays. Its also on the 12" single for "Loud Love" Chris Mackenzie "Why aren't they singing - take you're vitamins, be a nice person?" - Soundgarden, Big Dumb Sex (New Version) "I dreamnt of Cindy & her thorazine screams and her perma-teen light & I've seen her loose her mind" - Truly, Angelhead ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Stereo >But, I would like to ask a question of all you bright guys on the CD player. I >have a simple problem. My CD player will not pick up the voice on the second >cut of Hater (Who Do I Kill). All I get is the music no words. I have played >the CD on other CD equipment and there is no problem - the word are there. Can >any one out there tell me why this is happening. Yes, check and make sure that your stereo is hooked up to the speaker PERFECTLY!!! Check all the cables to that speaker, from the CD out to the speaker in...and push them in tightly. Hope that works. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: Moon Druid I believe that =B4 Johan =C said this =E but his ASCII is a =E9 wierd. =H3.. >So, you play guitar. Do you play in a band? What kind of guitar do you play? >How long have you played? What kind of music; own material or covers? Funny you should say that. Right now, I have no band...but I might soon. See, this band is looking for a new vocalist, and I play a little guitar (back to my good-old Fender Acoustic) so I might be in a local band. >How can a man sing in that pitch, Chris kicks a whole lot of ass. >It would be fun if you could answer. As a singer myself...here's the exact deal. Chris has a very low voice (Beyond The Wheel, Power Trip) when he sings naturally. But, he sliped into a head voice for almost every other song (Hunted Down, Mood For Trouble, Gun, Big Dumb Sex, and more) and that is what made him sound a little weak. In order to flip into your head voice, it's just a natuaral thing. Instead of singing from your chest, sing from your head. It'll leave you sounding like a wussy soprano guy...but with a little work you'll have a Chris voice. BUT...for Badmotorfinger, he was able to extend his _NATURAL_ voice into the range needed for the songs. If you listen, you can hear a distinct difference in the notes from the transition of Louder to BMF. BMF is lower, but stronger, because that's where Chris is natural. For you and me and half the world to cover Chris is tough, however. He has such a low Bass voice that most people don't have. Then, when he gets into the head voice, he stretches higher in that so he has a lot of range up there. Practice, practice, practice. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Let's not censor ourselves?!?! Fine...but GROW UP!!! S.M. - Uninvited Company - Said this... >First, let's not censor ourselves here and just call it Badmotherfucker. No! We already went through this, if you would have read your earlier messages. Maybe they did want to call it Louder Than Fuck and Badmotherfucker but they didn't, and I see no reason to call it something it's not. So please, grow up, and call it by it's true name. We may know the truth, but I don't think we are doing to band any justice. >Second, I'm afraid I don't hold it in as high regard as some others here. Okay, agreed. But I still feel it is one of the strongest albums ever. It is a transition, it is dark, it is sac-religious, and it is a statement. >"Face Pollution" blows my mind. But "Mind Riot" is unlistenable (Cornell Oh be quiet. If you _UNDERSTOOD_ Mind Riot, you might like it. Next time...try and I-N-T-E-L-L-I-G-E-N-T response. It is one of my favorite songs soley for the fact that it is about fighting with yourself. >And what's the deal with the saxophones? It adds a new twist. We could easily say "What's the deal with the Clarinet, Cello, and Melotron?" We could say "What's the deal with the crash cymbol, china boy, and bass drum?" and we could say "What's the deal with the guitar?" It all adds a twist that we may never have heard before. >Let's face it, it was a transitional album. They had lost the unbridled >ferocity of Yamamoto, and Shepherd hadn't yet added his touch. In fact, Yamamoto isn't exactly ferocious in my mind. Yamamoto is talented, smart, and angry. Listen to Circle Of Power. That's anger. That's skill. >There wil never be another "Power Trip" or "I awake" (perhaps my two favorites of >all, musically). Seriously? I don't really see I Awake as a skillful song. It's good, but it's nothing compared to Limo Wreck or Mood For Trouble. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Record bins! >Hey, everyone, i'd like to know what your favorite album is that it seems >like no one else has heard of. "Incesticide" is heard of. Soundgarden >albums don't count. "Hater" is heard of. I mean albums that might jump >out of a bin and stay in your stereo for months at the time. Anyone else >have albums like that? Yep...'Z' Shampoo Horn. The band's name....Z. It's Dweezil and Ahmet Zappa....sons of Frank. They rock. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: SOMMS T-Shirts! >Well, I can tell you how the folk from PJ list does it... We made Garden >Of Stone t-shirts (my idea, although I didn't get one) so it's easy to >recognise fellow list members on the concert site. It works pretty well. >I won't be able to attend any US SG shows (for obvious reasons), but >maybe a SOMMS t-shirt wouldn't be a bad idea? Rocks! Great idea. Who wants to start an idea for one? Moon Druid ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Rocktropolis From: seth > Hi, just wondering if anyone was having the same problem I am. I have been > trying the access the Rocktropolis/Soundgarden site and keep getting an > error message "requested URL not found, http error: 404". I keep getting > this message on the URL for Soundgarden and just plain Rocktropolis too. > Is this just from my online access or are they doing something to the site? > Thanks in advance for any help. Yes, the official Soundgarden page is down, it seems. You can still access Rocktropolis via http://rocktropolis.com (instead of using the underground.net address), but when you get to the "city" imagemap and click on "Soundgarden" you get the same "URL not found" error. I've sent email to the folks in charge and hopefully I'll have some news as to what's going on soon. seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: favorite ale From: seth > > Where can i get a recording of the new version of Big Dumb Sex, or can i > > at all? (Steve, don't flame me...) -j > > > It is on the Japanese EP "Loudest Love" which is pretty hard to find > nowadays. Its also on the 12" single for "Loud Love" And don't forget the CD and 7" (UK release) versions of the "Loud Love" EP, too. seth ------------------------------ From: soundgarden@beryl.emerald.net Show me the power child greeting from the Soundgarden site, official. Greeting from a turbuled head. Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: "Si tu pouvais savoir..." Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 30 Sep 1995 > From: MoonDruid@aol.com > Subject: Kim...was he once a woman? > > Well guys...I was interviewing a band tonight (which I might be singing for > soon :)...) and one of them reads guitar player. We were talking SG when he > screamed out "Holy shit! Kim Thayil! He used to be a woman!" of course > disturbed by this...I thought for a second. I know only one male Kim...it's > not a common name...is our fave Kim an ex Kimberly? > > Moon Druid > > ...Say it a'int so! - Weezer - Clean band of the decade Kim Thayil was not a woman! Just because his name is "Kim" doesn't" mean it's short for Kimberly. Think about it guys. Even when women have sex changes, they are not nearly as hirsute as Kim is. ------------------------------ From: "T.C." Subject: Top Ten.. everyone else is doin it! My top ten 1. Temple Of The Dog 2. Soundgarden - Superunknown 3. Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger 4. Soundgarden - Fresh Deadly Rarities 5. Soundgarden - Screaming Life/FOPP 6. Soundgarden - Ultramega OK 7. Soundgarden - Louder Than Love 8. Brother Cane - Seeds 9. Stone Temple Pilots - Purple 10. Alice In Chains - Jar Of Flies can you see a pattern developing in the first 7? ,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';, ,;';,anc11540@anc.ak.net,;';, ,;';, LoTEcH ,;';, ,;';, (Tom) ,;';, ,;';,www.ak.net/anc11540,;';, ,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';, ------------------------------ Subject: really, now From: seth Anyone else bother to pick apart the message that was sent from "soundgarden@beryl.emerald.net"? It was actually sent from someone at campus.ccm.itesm.mx (which accounts for the IP address 148.241.155.13 in the headers). Would either of the two people on the mailing list with accounts on campus.ccm.itesm.mx like to confess or shall I just admit that I have far too much time on my hands? seth (bored listadmin) - ------- Forwarded Message Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA25392; Sat, 30 Sep 95 17:58:58 EDT Received: from Beryl.Emerald.Net by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA11695; Sat, 30 Sep 95 17:57:32 EDT Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 17:57:32 EDT From: soundgarden@beryl.emerald.net Message-Id: <9509302157.AA11695@MIT.EDU> Received: from MIT.EDU ([148.241.155.13]) by beryl.emerald.net (post.office MTA v1.7.1.1 evaluation license) with SMTP id AAA289 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 14:57:45 -0700 Apparently-To: Show me the power child greeting from the Soundgarden site, official. Greeting from a turbuled head. Soundgarden - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Sam M.) Subject: Feeling the heat. I hope I'm not anathema now for dissing Badmotorfinger. I still think its a great disc. It's alot better than anything a Flock of Seagulls ever did. Question: I'm new around here. Does the digest not come on weekends or did I get booted? I haven't done anything too bad so I assume the former, but I'm a really paranoid individual. "Can you help me Occupy my brain?" Song BY Ozzy. Entry by Sammy. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 56] ***************************************