From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 29 Sep 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:22:39 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 29 Sep 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: A few questions... questions Top Ten Re: AIC album? the member directory is alive! Re: Other bands... -Reply Re: Chicka - some answers -Reply Re:SG Live everyone else sends out a top 10 list... Re: Re: Everything and nothing hey.... Re: Top Ten Re:SG Live Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. Re: Suicide? the envelope, please... Suicide? Top Ten List ultramega lyrics Re: favorite ale Re: Top Ten Re: Best Lyric homepage Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Sep 1995 Re: homepage Rolling Stone Back-Issues All Apologies Re: favorite ale Top Ten Lyrics... more lyrics Like Suicide Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. Re: best seattle albums of the 90's New album reference - exhibit 5/C (heh heh heh) Fave drinks One happy, dysfunctional, SG loving, family!!! Rage...now you do what they told'ya! Sex...guitars...and translations... Favorite Drinks (look ma, no "U"!!!) Femine side!!! New Alice in Chains Chris's little education made him want it more... Re: A few questions... Best Seattle Since 1990 24 hours later...a drum roll please.. Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Sep 1995 AIC Album Release Date movies Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Sep 1995 Re: movies Riffs!!! replys I'm suffering Kim Thayil Re: Rage...now you do what they told'ya! ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Peter Scott Subject: A few questions... Hello Soundgarden list. I have been subscribed to the list for about two weeks, so I thought it about time to break my silence; I have one or two questions.... A while ago an English Soundgarden fanzine - Hands All Over, sadly no more (anyone remember it?) - was trying to find out the name of the film which features the Hands All Over video. I remember switching channels a few years back and seeing the HAO video, it was on a TV in someones house and the someone was being stalked by a crazed killer. Does anybody know the name of this film? I have a Soundgarden single that I want to know more about. The single looks like a bootleg record; it is blue vinyl and has live recordings of Sub Pop Rock City and Fopp. The sound quality is really bad and it has a photocopied cover, but the label on the disc looks like any normal record - not the usual blank white label normally associated with bootlegs - and it is on the Pub Sop label (a play on Sub Pop), and what's more it is credited as 'produced by Soundgarden' - what's the story? I saw Soundgarden in Dublin a couple of days before they played the Reading Festival - I had to take a train for 100 miles, then catch the ferry over the Irish Sea, how far have you gone out of your way to see Soundgarden (new story theme perhaps?). Anyway, I think they played a similar set to Reading, did anyone else go to this show? I don't remember seeing New Damage on the Reading set list posted here some time ago, but they did it in Dublin which I was pleased about. In March 1994 Soundgarden played a free show in London at the Shepards Bush Empire - the Superunknown gig, so called because you had to ring a number the day before to see where the show would take place. It was a great show - my most enjoyable SG gig - and it was filmed, I presume for MTV, but I have never seen the film shown - has it been, and has anyone got a video of it? One last thing. Soundgarden didn't really cover Black Sabbath's song Into The Void, it was the same music but totally different lyrics. The lyrics were taken from a letter sent by an Indian chief to an American president. I guess most of you know this, but what I am getting at is I have a copy of the letter, but it's rather long, so if you really, really, really want to know it's full contents I will post it. Thanks for bearing with me, __ /\_ _/\_/ / / \_/\_O/___,_ / \/\_ --^ )__/-_/ \/-( \ PETE / _) SCOTT / / \ ------------------------------ From: "joseph a. burnett" Subject: questions i have been surfing the net for a few weeks now, and was fortunate enough to come across the soundgarden homepage, and now i am up to my eyeballs in lyrics, pictures, and other various material regarding my favorite band. now i have a question. upon looking at the discography, i couldn't find an album i have-----it is a 7-inch called outtakes-----by lo-fi records, with "thank you (falettinme be mice elf again)" and "everybody's got something to hide..." the cover is an extremely old picture of chris.........is this a bootleg? or a rare album? a response from an informed reader would be greatly appreciated.--------------------------Joe ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" maybe this has already been brought up ( i am brand new here) but isn't the day i tried to live rather obviously about suicide? one more time around- would that possibly be a reference to the idea of karma, and reincarnation? hell, the first verse screams it to me. from the view of someone studying psychology, and who has some personal insight into scizophrenia, the story i read is about a psychotic (someone who has a break with reality, they often hear voices in their heads) who decides to kill a bunch of people and then himself, or possibly just himself. either that, or i need to look on the bright side of things. i guess the view stems from the fact that superunknown is such a dark album. dan hearsch ------------------------------ From: scpeters@students.wisc.edu (Steven Carl Peterson) Subject: Top Ten Doooh!! I already unsubscribed for lack of time to read everything, but I just can't pass up a good Top Ten list... 1. Alice In Chains - "Jar Of Flies" 2. Soundgarden - "Badmotorfinger" 3. Stone Temple Pilots - "Purple" (what the hell, you guys all hate STP??) 4. Soundgarden - "Superunknown" 5. Alice In Chains - "Sap" 6. Pearl Jam - "Ten" 7. Pearl Jam - "Vs." 8. Stone Temple Pilots - "Core" 9. Nirvana - "Nevermind" 10. Alice In Chains - "Dirt" And coming in at the honorary (and perfectly appropriate) 11th spot, 11. Eleven - their latest album "Thunk" - any Eleven fans out there? I love their stuff, lots of different influences. Matt Cameron plays on this album, he helped out when Jack Irons took off to join PJ, and I think the coolest song on this album is "Why", which Matt drums on. It just HAS to be about Jack leaving them for PJ, and it rocks b/c it's all emotional and pissed-off like. Check out Eleven's home page on the web at: "http:/www.hollywoodrec.com/eleven". I *honestly* didn't mean for this to turn into an ad for Eleven! Just bought the album yesterday and am still in that constant-listening, "wow this is really cool" mode, ya know? Steve ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: AIC album? On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Daniel Garrett wrote: > > Anyone know when the new Alice in Chains album is due? > -- > Daniel Garrett "...and its raining ice-picks on your steel shore.." > i think it's due right after they do a live performance somewhere, anywhere. in other words, don't hold your breath, you could turn bluer than layne's veins... ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" the foo fighters song is called "this is a call". their other release is "i'll stick around" ------------------------------ Subject: the member directory is alive! From: seth Well, I went ahead and started the Soundgarden Mailing List Member Directory. Everyone has to send me his/her picture. UUencoded or MIME-encoded images are the easiest way to get them to me. If you have a homepage, tell me and I'll link it to your picture. This way, people on the list can get to know each other a little better without having to post countless messages about the best drinks that they've had (no offense to anyone involved in this thread, but does it really relate to Soundgarden at all?). If you don't have access to a scanner, I'll scan the picture for you. My real mail address is on the Member Directory page. For everyone, the address of this new page (which is not linked to the Soundgarden homepage itself) is: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list/ And as if you hadn't noticed, I'm not giving up on this idea. For some reason I thought this would be cool, so it's going to happen even if I have to draw pictures of all of you and put them up. seth ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: Other bands... -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ does anyone know the name of the song that goes @"fingernails are pretty, fingernails are good..." and/or the @ name of the @ artist? The song is the first single from the Foo Fighters' first album (Singer and guitarist is Dave Grohl of Nirvana). I've heard the song a zillion times yet never cought the title of it :P Enjoy. SirD. This is a Call by the Foo Fighters. Dan ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: Chicka - some answers -Reply I'm afraid I have to say this but everyone should by the Foo Fighters album if only for track 9. It's called "for all the cows" and it is completely weird. You have to hear it to understand though. yours (about to get flamed) musically. Dan ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (S. M.) Subject: Re:SG Live D. Garrett's point (9/28) about SG live is well taken. I saw them in '90 opening for Danzig, and 'fraid to say, the headliner was better. The problem for me lay in Thayil's sense of rhythm and general lack of technical ability. Thayil's genius is sound -- I rank him with Hendrix and Page in that department. Unfortunately, there is no substitute for technical prowess in live performance. A comparison can be drawn to the later live performances of Zeppelin as Page's declining brain cell count rendered his solos embarrassingly sloppy, while the riffs still packed a punch. Come to think of it, Zeppelin-SG comparisons abound, as far as particular talents go. Listen to the earth shattering bass drums of Bonham and Cameron. But Cameron will probably live a while and Cornell is a better songwriter than Plant. Well, they're not the reincarnation of Zeppelin, they don't even admit to liking Zep, but they're close enough for me, for now. And who cares if they bomb live -- like LZ they rarely play live anymore. I wonder if this will get in.... Sam ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: everyone else sends out a top 10 list... so Im doing one just for the hell of it.... sorry, im bored here they are... like you care (in no particular order..) 1. Eleven-Thunk 2. Truly-Fast Stories... from Kid Coma 3. Pop Will Eat Itself-Dos Dedos Mis Amigos 4. The Presidents of The United States of America 5. Filter-Short Bus 6. Soundgarden-Superunknown :) 7. Toadies-Rubberneck 8. Soundgarden-Badmotorfinger 9. Foo Fighters 10. Tad-Inhaler let's not forget this cool soundgarden bootleg i picked up called "garden of souls"... if you're thinking about buying it, you're not wasting your money. Oh yeah, does anyone know where I can get those Soundgarden Reading festival bootlegs? Im dying for one :D ok.... ive wasted enough of your time.... cya - -=**=- (trying to be a lil creative.. didnt work. oh well.) love, stolen prayers ------------------------------ From: Zaiga Menke On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > And now what you have all been waiting for, Clown with Bazooka's Top 10, > Album's of Seattle list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > [some part of top skipped] > 6. Nirvana "Nevermind" ??? Nevermind? The most commercial album of nirvana? i'm confused, guys...i always have thought that bleach rules even more. incesticide and in utero are not bad too... But you put in Seattles Top Ten list "nevermind"...i think its wrong. Zaiga, small maniac ------------------------------ Subject: Re: From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >that, or i need to look on the bright side of things. i guess the view >stems from the fact that superunknown is such a dark album. >dan hearsch I think you see just what Chris wants you to see, the dark side. I believe he try's to have us really take notice of the bad in life, so we can try and change them. He wants you to think, does a good job, doesn't he. Your posting was good, hope to hear more from you. Jamie PS to the list: Yes, I;m back, and I'm not going away again........ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Everything and nothing From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) From Kevin: >#1: I am one of the less common mailing list responders, but I do enjoy >learning everything about the band. I just wanted to say that not everyone >that doesn't respond isn't a diehard fan. I'm just an introverted person, I >guess, and I don't get much inside information about SG. The Internet is a haven for introverted people, you can speak your mind and not worry about it. Unless your like me a soft hearted village idiot. Words on paper (or screen) are ease to delete. Test the water, it's not really that bad. >#2: About "Like Suicide": I agree. About every time I heard that song, I >wondered about it, and after seeing the explanation of the lyrics, I too was >moved, greatly. Damn, that's deep. Chris is one of the best songwriters of >all time. Yes, he can get to your heart and soul with only a few words. I never feel hate from Chris's writing, just pain, loneliness, and the need to reach out. Jamie ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: hey.... sorry to bother y'all again... but anyone got any information on the new soundgarden album?... i dont mean there cd plus... i mean the new new album reportedly being released in spring, or something love, stolen prayers ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: Top Ten On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Steven Carl Peterson wrote: > 3. Stone Temple Pilots - "Purple" (what the hell, you guys all hate STP??) > 8. Stone Temple Pilots - "Core" First they arent a Seattle band. so your votes for these two albums dont count. Second, I mentioned in the original post that copycat, rip off's (Silverchair, STP, Brother Cain, Collective Soul etc) (bands without a collective shred of originality) shouldn't be confused and included in the best of Seattle rock albums of the 90's. You could of been more original and mentioned _Dig_. Hello, Goodbye, Steven ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re:SG Live Forwarded message follows: > From @ns.cityscape.co.uk:samm@mail.usa1.com Thu Sep 28 11:08:12 1995 > Received: from punt3.demon.co.uk by bcshq.demon.co.uk with SMTP > id AA7534 ; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:08:10 BST > Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net via puntmail for dgarrett@bcshq.demon.co.uk; > Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:41:16 GMT > Received: from ns.cityscape.co.uk by punt-3.mail.demon.net id aa29223; > 28 Sep 95 10:40 +0100 > Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.21]) by ns.cityscape.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id KAA14860 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:38:29 +0100 > Received: from [204.249.224.3] by MIT.EDU with SMTP > id AA20237; Thu, 28 Sep 95 05:02:43 EDT > Received: from [204.249.225.67] (wmn1-79.usa1.com [204.249.225.79]) by daroq.usa1.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA12622 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 05:03:02 -0400 > X-Sender: samm@usa1.com > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 05:03:38 -0500 > To: somms@mit.edu > From: "S. M." > Subject: Re:SG Live > Status: R > > D. Garrett's point (9/28) about SG live is well taken. I saw them in '90 > opening for Danzig, and 'fraid to say, the headliner was better. The > problem for me lay in Thayil's sense of rhythm and general lack of > technical ability. Thayil's genius is sound -- I rank him with Hendrix and > Page in that department. Unfortunately, there is no substitute for > technical prowess in live performance. A comparison can be drawn to the > later live performances of Zeppelin as Page's declining brain cell count > rendered his solos embarrassingly sloppy, while the riffs still packed a > punch. > Come to think of it, Zeppelin-SG comparisons abound, as far as particular > talents go. Listen to the earth shattering bass drums of Bonham and > Cameron. > But Cameron will probably live a while and Cornell is a better songwriter > than Plant. > Well, they're not the reincarnation of Zeppelin, they don't even admit to > liking Zep, but they're close enough for me, for now. And who cares if they > bomb live -- like LZ they rarely play live anymore. > > I wonder if this will get in.... > Sam > > > > To me Soundgarden are the missing link between Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and something totally mind-numbingly original. When I first heard Badmotorfinger it took me many listens to really get into it and understand it, i'd already got Louder than Love which I thought at the time was ok (I appreciate it far more now!!) but Badmotorfinger is like an utterly seminal album, the lyrics, riffs, song structures, squalls of feedback that are seemingly woven throughout the album and all the weird time signatures make up a mystical, compelling 70 odd minutes of music. Cornell sounds like some kind of primal man possessed, his voice finally come into its own (he sounds much younger and less mature on LTL) and the guitars could'nt fail tuned down to A at times giving a whole new dimension in sound and distancing themselves from all the other HM/Rock bands around at the time (Skid Row, Warrant, Anthrax etc). I probably sound like some gushing fan but this is my take on probably my favourite LP of all time. It is a pity they can't recreate it live (Searching with my good eye closed sounds completely different!), but if they can still cut it in the studio and Superunknown is not a lesser album just different then i'm with them for the duration. Daniel Garrett All my friends are brown & red................... ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) Subject: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. I guess I can see where this is going, so I'm going to try and respond to as much hate mail as possible, clear things up and then drink a large amount of coffee. ClownWithBazooka? I appologise for calling you "dear", I'm sorry if I construed your words, but you did actually say "the four best musicians in one band", to which okay, i said "world", not far out, but fair enough. You also believe you can measure talent, how? Or are you just biased, it seems very much so. Music is to be listened to and enjoyed, not graded or compared which are so fond of doing. Blind Dog? My opinion is still equal to that of Chris Cornell, and yes, that includes whatever form you want to output it. It doesn't mean I am egotistical because I choose to voice it, if that is how you feel about your own opinion then all i can say is that you are an extremely shallow person. I find everyone's opinion interesting, whether I agree or disagree, you should do the same. And I replied in a shitty manner because I do not enjoy being patronised, and you also started the argument by replying in such a manner. I've already apologised for my behaviour, now how about you? Askairi Williams? I misread your mail, my apologies. EJ Fry? Yes, I can see you have your education, if my grant comes through quick enough I'll buy you a plaque to put on your wall, what colour would you like? Jovica Popovic? My point was (again?) that the Neil Young/Pearl Jam album is nothing short of a commercial attempt at selling more records as explained in my previous mail. You replied and said that it wasn't a comercial move because it didn't say PJ anywhere on the inlay, but you know anyway, and so does everyone else, especially MTV and many of the Pearl Jam fans that bought it. And no, Courtney Love is not my idol, your mother is. Good drummer/Bad drummer? I just want to say something on this. People have been saying whose good and whose not and many of you are going off "how" they play, nobody has actually said "what" they play. A good example of this is Larry Mullen Jnr. who I consider to be a good drummer, and someone replied with "what challenging drum songs have U2 ever recorded", if anyone has ever heard "Bullet the Blue Sky" or as already mentioned "Sunday Bloody Sunday" these are good songs, if not for a very catchy, yet uncomplex drum beat, and in my opinion that is more important. Feedback? Girl U Want? Is this really a cover? And has anybody heard the early demo versions of Fell On Black Days and Birth Ritual, I actually prefer these to the album tracks. Top 10 albums? Well, I don't have an order, but I'd say my ten most played are. Pearl Jam - Vitalogy Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine Swervedriver - Mezcal Head Levellers - Levelling the Land Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Mad Season - Mad Season Alice In Chains - Dirt Radiohead - The Bends Reef - Replenish Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes If I could ask one question to Soundgarden, then I suppose I'd ask for a drink because I helped buy the last round. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Suicide? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > We are always talking about how dark and disturbing Chris's >lyrics are. Does this mean that Chris is in fact a kind of emotionally >scarred and disturbed person. If so Let's hope he isn't as f*#ked up as >Kurt Cobain was because I don't think we could handle it if he bit the >bullet (litterally). Of course I don't think he is like that cos he always >seems like a real happy guy on TV interviews. I guess his music is his >way of discarding his misery and torment (and a damn good way it is >too. > Dan Just because you write morbid, dark, disturbing, etc. - doesn't mean your head isn't screw on right. Look at the track record: Clive Barker (Hellraiser series), Ann Rice (Interview with a Vampire), Hemmingway (figure I need a normal type writer in here - if you can consider him normal), Donaldson (T. Convent Trilogy), - sorry, I have a large library and it covers all topic, but for some reason I could only come up with horror type authors - wait how about OJ Simpson last book (shudder). But back to the point (if I have one) you are not always what you write. You look at the above list and say - Well Jamie those people aren't real straight in the head. - No, but they know the way to the bank and laugh the whole way. I'm sure Chris's writing reflects how he views the world, but I bet it's not how his world work. Besides if you read some of my work, you would think I was the gloomiest lady around - and no comments from people out there who have see my work. Jamie PS: I used authors and not song writer to make a point about writing - I feel Chris is a writer not just a song writer. There are allot of artist that write words for songs only - make it sound good with the music, does it rhythm junk. PSS: Just so you don't think book illiterate - my last book purchased was Collin Powell (My American Journal) - got to meet him and have him sign the book. PSSS: There seems to be allot of writers on this list - how about some of your material - I would love to read anything done by the group. Sorry about the length of this, have nothing to do but wait for a new system to come on line. ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: the envelope, please... oh goody...a chance to categorize and rank my artistic interests in an easy-to-comprehend numbered format!!! (just kidding...i love these things) 1. soundgarden - badmotorfinger 2. sunny day real estate - diary (aren't these guys seattle-ites?) 3. alice in chains - dirt 4. soundgarden - superunknown 5. mudhoney - piece of cake 6. nirvana - nevermind 7. best kissers in the world - been there (same question as #2) 8. mad season - above 9. hater - hater 10. (tie) presidents of the u.s.a. (heard their new album last week and it is absolutely phenomenal) AND foo fighters - foo fighters oops, i forgot pearl jam...oh wait, i meant to do that. cool. :) (actually i don't mind `ten', but it all went downhill from there...) i think all of these qualify...e-mail me and scold me if i messed up...later - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Suicide? Dear all, We are always talking about how dark and disturbing Chris's lyrics are. Does this mean that Chris is in fact a kind of emotionally scarred and disturbed person. If so Let's hope he isn't as f*#ked up as Kurt Cobain was because I don't think we could handle it if he bit the bullet (litterally). Of course I don't think he is like that cos he always seems like a real happy guy on TV interviews. I guess his music is his way of discarding his misery and torment (and a damn good way it is too. Sorry for the rant Ta for listening Dan ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Top Ten List Here's my Top Ten Seattle list if anyone cares: 1. Temple of the Dog 2. Pearl Jam -Ten 3. Nirvana- Nevermind 4. Soundgarden- Badmotorfinger 5. Pearl Jam- Vitology 6. Nirvana- Incesticide 7. Soundgarden- Superunknown 8. Sunny Day Real Estate- Diary 9. Pearl Jam- Versus 10. Nirvana- In Utero I know there's not too much variety, but those are my favorites ------------------------------ From: 945818@utb.edu Subject: ultramega lyrics here goes a couple ultramega lyrics, as promised flower along her painful ride alone her pain all of seventeen, eyes of purple green treated like a queen she was a morose seventeen she would do her dance, a painful masquerade spinning you into her web of long love and of pain in her uniform, studded brass and steel kissing napkin, lipstick stains and smearing sincerity along her painful ride alone her pain time crept up on her, she's a lovely grey her reflection looks into him flowers at her grave all your lies all your fears are lies all your fears are lies all your fears are lies all your fears are lies ___________________? clipless, falling, limping, crawling biting fighting back from dying endless ending and comprehending nothing of the scent she's sending loosely buying the tv lie and the maggot man will never cry corraled like a cat with my head hit the sack and i feel like i'm tied to the railroad track. (words/music: cornell) jen i'll get some more out later ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: favorite ale Where can i get a recording of the new version of Big Dumb Sex, or can i at all? (Steve, don't flame me...) -j ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: Top Ten Uh, STP is not a Seattle band..... ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Best Lyric 1) Favorite soundgarden lyric: "The lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead" 2and3) "look on the bright side is suicide" ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: homepage Well, seth i'm sending this to the list because i figure some people on the list might agree w/ me: I can not wait until you put the guitar tablature on the homepage. I know you are busy and all, but, well, when you get the tablature on the homepage, i have this wierd feeling that a lot of people on the list would like to be informed. Well, Flame me if i'm wrong, i guess i'll have to get used to the fire one day anyway.... -j ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. ok ten best albums of the 90's: (not in order) 1:Nevermind 2:In Utero 3:Superunknown 4:Bad Motor Finger 5:Temple of the dog 6: Above 7:Ten 8:Vitology 9:Foofighters 10:Sixteen Stone ------------------------------ From: AFNJ84A@prodigy.com (MR CASEY C CAUGHRON) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Sep 1995 - -- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- >From: Chicka Jackeen >Subject: Other bands... > And what about Sonic Youth's new album? Are there any songs where Thurston Moore keeps his human >mouth shut and lets his magnificent playing do all the talking for the song? If you are referring to Washing Machine I am afraid to tell you that every song has vocals in it. Everyone in the band sings at least once except for Steve Shelley but don't worry there are plenty of length instrumentals. I personally like it better when Kim sings. This album is best compared to thier 1990 album, "GOO". If you like any of the other albums by all means run out and get this one. I have 6 albums and I could listen to them all day long (I have done it before). SONIC YOUTH IS SONIC THERAPY!! GOON P.S. Have you noticed the number of Web sites popping up? Everyone has a site. The back cover of my Sonic Youth CD has an address for Geffen Records. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There's a thing in my memory Holding on for dear life...... Thurston Moore, Sonic Youth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: homepage From: seth > I can not wait until you put the guitar tablature on the > homepage. I know you are busy and all, but, well, when you get > the tablature on the homepage, i have this wierd feeling that a > lot of people on the list would like to be informed. Well, if anyone has any of the tab books and would be willing to transcribe some of them for me, I'd be more than happy to put them on the Web page. I'm not a guitarist, and as much as I want to provide as much Soundgarden information as I possibly can, I don't want to spend $20 for each book. seth ------------------------------ From: Baldrick2@aol.com Subject: Rolling Stone Back-Issues There are 2 ways to get the RS back-issues: Interview with Chris: December 29, 1994-January 12,1995 Year end double issue with David Letterman on cover. #698-699 (counts as ONE issue). Interview with SG: June 16, 1994 (SG on cover) #684 PJ STARR@aol.com She had the June 16, 1994 issue #684 for $5.00, but I don't know if she has December 29, 1994 #698-699. She does a free search for hard to find items. Or, you can get both directly from RS: Back-Issues Rolling Stone P.O. Box 40 Vernon, NJ 07462 Send a check or money order for $10 for each magazine, and make sure you give them the date and issue number. Good Luck! B2 ------------------------------ From: Kate Mercier Subject: All Apologies Hey list-- To be totally honest, I didn't WANT an apology for not being included as one of the "elite"... I just wanted to make the list goers aware that there are active lovers of soundgarden who don't make a post daily, or even weekly. Sometimes, I just don't have anything to say. So: no need to exhaust anyone's supply of humility... just be conscientious. (Added: I never flamed ONE specific person. If I feel the need to, I will address it to that person and that person only. Why post you own personal gripe to hundreds of innocent eyes???) As far as the new list of top ten lyrics (this is so difficult!):{5 ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Re: favorite ale Me too! BDM On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > Where can i get a recording of the new version of Big Dumb Sex, or can i > at all? (Steve, don't flame me...) -j > "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Kate Mercier Subject: Top Ten Lyrics... Favorite SG lyric: I got up feeling so down. I got off being sold out. I kept the movie rolling, but the story's getting old now. I just looked in the mirror and things aren't looking so good: I'm looking California, and feeling Minnesota. Favorite Seattle lyric/verse: ------------------------------ From: 945818@utb.edu Subject: more lyrics Blind dogs run away now it's halloween shave your head and burn your sheets you could be right next door what do blind dogs believe? i don't want to know Chorus: blind following blind run away now it's halloween safe, bed is on your knees bow your head to the trinity that's what blind dogs believe i've heard that before (chorus) dead on my feet where the nightmare walks i fell asleep with three white dogs somebody swim and throw in his sink these things in the air can make you think make you think make you think those are the lyrics for blind dogs. if anyone wants any other specific lyrics, let me know and i'll send them. jen ------------------------------ From: Kazam Ali Subject: Like Suicide Hey all, Just wondering....I just bought the TDITTL single which has the acoustic version of Like Suicide on it. I have to say I absolutely love it!! I'm starting to like it more than the Superunknown version. Which one of the two does everyonge else prefer? I know it's a hard choice since they're both excellent works of art. BTW, that robin interpretation of Like Suicide really sheds a lot of light on the song! Kazam ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: Many things to say but i'm gonna refrain from saying it. On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, BdMtrFngr wrote: > 10:Sixteen Stone > uh.. bush isn't from seattle.. they're from england.. ------------------------------ From: Malkav Subject: Re: best seattle albums of the 90's My 10 most influential Seattle albums of the 1990's: 1. Bleach.Nirvana <- Nirvana started the seattle scene and this is the album that started Nirvana. It wasn't the greatest but it was probably the most influential. 2. Nevermind.Nirvana 3. Badmotorfinger.Soundgarden 4. Ten.Pearl Jam 5. Temple of the Dog 6. Superunknown.Soundgarden 7. Piece of Cake.Mudhoney 8. Vs.Pearl Jam 9. Dirt.Alice in Chains 10. In Utero.Nirvana <- not majorly influencial but i couldn't think of anything else Well after writing this I realize that there are a lot of other great albums out there that have come out before the 90's and from other places rather than seattle. What do you all out there consider the 5 most influencial rock (alternative, classic, punk, whatever) albums of all time. Mine are in no order of preference... Jimi Hendrix- Are You Experienced Pink Floyd- The Wall Pearl Jam- Ten Nirvana- Bleach or Nevermind.. kindda a tie i guess Led Zepplin- well any of their albums really... ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: New album reference - exhibit 5/C (heh heh heh) >"For all I know, our next record is going to be aggressive and >chaotic. I think it's just where we are right now." YYYYYESS!!! I like that old style. And BTW, beautiful interview with Kim. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Fave drinks >mine is Midori Sours! Mine's gotta be Amstiel Light or Schnopps + Coffee. Rum and Coke makes me puke my balls out. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: One happy, dysfunctional, SG loving, family!!! >Just speaking from me though, I kind of feel like those of us who do all the >talking are like family. And I guess that's because we do talk to each other a lot. Hmmmmm...wonder if we could all get together somewhere. Like, meet in Chicago, IL sometime? It's in the center of the US, dontchaknow! (It's also where I live...but don't tell anyone that!!!) Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Rage...now you do what they told'ya! In a message dated 95-09-27 01:11:52 EDT, you write: > Someone, in the midst of the Rage >Against the Machine feud, noted that there is a lot of hostility on this >list. Well..first off I must say that I love Rage. They're great for driving along the road. I do agree with some, but not all, of their views. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Sex...guitars...and translations... While drinking Red Stripe (aahhh, Jamaican good beer!), Jackhammer said, >Big Dumb Sex? It's basically an insult to all those crappy 80's songs that talked about sex. 2 Live Crew is one of them that the song is directed at, ya know? Or the shit-head formerly known as Prince. It's just sort of saying "Hey, you lousy faggots...why do you have to go around the word fuck? Watch THIS!! FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK YOU!!!" (no offense...please, sorry, I didn't mean it. Anyone upset by that, well, you know...) >what sort of guitars do Kim Thayil and Chris Cornell play? They play Gibson guitars. Peavy amps. I love my Gibson. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Favorite Drinks (look ma, no "U"!!!) While drinking a rum and coke, Glenn the canuck said... >It doesn't taste like water, you see... :) Old Milwauke Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Femine side!!! Steve said this while sober...but I was wasted when I replyed!!! >maybe I'm just >a bit outta touch with my 'feminine side' like Dan said.... >Then again, most guys are :) To stay in touch with mine...I usually like to walk around town wearing a dress and high heels. :) <-- See that!! Just kidding!! You're supposed to laugh now!! Seriously, when I first heard that song, I figured it was about a bad dream that he had once. Heard it from another room (bedroom) minds were waking up just to fall asleep (Wake up real fast..notice it's a dream, and fall back asleep) Then, while he tries to go back to sleep, he recaps the entire dream. He gave a gift to a girl, but then he found her just kind of lying there in a garden. He got pissed off when he saw his gift lying there broken, but so was her neck. So instead of making her suffer anymore...he crushed her with a brick. Oh well....my bad. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: New Alice in Chains >Anyone know when the new Alice in Chains album is due? Sorry, man...they broke up a little while ago. Too bad, huh? Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Chris's little education made him want it more... After a few Balzi Balls, J (just J) said... >Clown, that's what i've been saying!! How does he come up w/ those very >inticate lyrics w/ the educational background he has? It's amazing. Coming from a situation a little like Chris's...I must say that when you do a bad job, or when a teacher says "He just can't do it!" it makes you want it MORE. When your math teacher says "He's not cut out for this. He's a C student, if he's lucky." it just wants to make you go back there with that B+ in hand and say "Fuck Off!" I can see Chris being the kind of guy that when he was young, teachers said "That Chris is a bad kid. He just doesn't care about school. He's not any kind of student." so Chris would go home and read through that entire dictionary so he could use words that his teachers wouldn't even *UNDERSTAND*. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: A few questions... How far would I travel to see SG perform? I flew to London from my home state of New York to see the Reading Festival this past August. I drove 10 hours to Toronto to see Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Blues Traveler in August 1993 (my first live SG experience). In 1994, I flew to London and took a bus to Wales to see them in an arena that held only 1,500 people. It would have been ideal if they had actually showed. They canceled only three hours before due to Chris's vocal tribulations. I did, however, receive a full refund from the ticket counter lady who after examining my credit card felt compelled to blurt 'Oh, your the American!' YES, I FELT LIKE THE STUPIDEST PERSON ALIVE. Luckily Chris was well enough to perform in London the following day. In 1994, I also saw them in New York, Boston, Milwaukee, Montreal, Hull and Toronto with Nine Inch Nails. So basically I work to raise money to see Soundgarden live. I will get a life. I will get a life. I will get a life. As for the Shepards Bush performance, I have a hand-held video but haven't found any professional version. Also, the name of the film featuring the Hands All Over video is 'The Heights' (referring to the neighborhood in San Francisco). Michael Keaton (playing a crazed tenant) tries to murder Melanie Griffith (the homeowner) as the video plays on TV. Chris Cornell and his wife went to see the film and were (pleasantly) shocked at how long Soundgarden's part was. The scenes cut back and forth between the attack and the video clip and last the duration of the song. Vikki :-) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ I saw Soundgarden in Dublin a couple of days before they played the Reading Festival - I had to take a train for 100 miles, then catch the ferry over the Irish Sea, how far have you gone out of your way to see Soundgarden (new story theme perhaps?). Anyway, I think they played a similar set to Reading, did anyone else go to this show? I don't remember seeing New Damage on the Reading set list posted here some time ago, but they did it in Dublin which I was pleased about. In March 1994 Soundgarden played a free show in London at the Shepards Bush Empire - the Superunknown gig, so called because you had to ring a number the day before to see where the show would take place. It was a great show - my most enjoyable SG gig - and it was filmed, I presume for MTV, but I have never seen the film shown - has it been, and has anyone got a video of it? __ /\_ _/\_/ / / \_/\_O/___,_ / \/\_ --^ )__/-_/ \/-( \ PETE / _) SCOTT / / \ ------------------------------ Subject: Best Seattle Since 1990 From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) Here are my top 5 picks in order: 1. Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger 2. Soundgarden - Superunknown 3. Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog 4. Alice in Chains - Facelift 5. Singles Soundtrack (does this count?) "In the mirror shows another face Another place to hide it all" Chris Cornell nephend ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: 24 hours later...a drum roll please.. Hey list! after 24 hours the first wave of results are in: Using my super secret method of rating each person's picks (it included the wax and wane angles of the moon + the collective IQ of all ultra conservative republicans plus some magic dust. hocus pocus...viola... Before I start...I'm listening to the Live at the Armory (New York city) bootleg that a kind list member made for me. The date is 6/17/94 and towards the end of the show...the band plays Hand of God! A rather GREAT! version I might add. Well the entire crowds shuts up except for two people who go nuts. just an observation. Back to the list: 1. 77points Badmotorfinger 2. 72pts Superunknown 3. 45pts Nevermind 4. 44pts Temple of the Dog 5. 39pts Ten 6. 36pts Dirt 7. 29pts SAP (come on people...its a 4 song EP) 8. 16pts Piece of Cake (there is hope for some of you) 9. 14pts Vs. 10. 12pts Diary (Sunny Day Real Estate) As for #10, I've heard great things about it...but I've never picked it up. They have a new one coming out the 3rd week in October. Thanks for the 2 people who voted for it. You just reminded me I had to buy it. Others: 11pts Above (mad season) 11pts Jar of Flies 10pts Brad (this guy voted it his fave CD....I wont comment) 8 pts In Utero 8 pts Hater 7 pts Satchel (huh?) 7 pts 8-Way Santa (this is a grunge masterpiece...I highly recommend you pick this up. If not for the cover....the guy on the far left looks exactly like me. cept I have shorter hair and no beard) 6 pts Vitalogy 5 pts Incesticide 4 pts a mark lanegan solo record Others recieving votes: My Brother the Cow, Fast Stories...from Kid Coma, Every good boy deserves fudge, Prez. of the USA, Foo Fighter's, Melvins, Pigeonhed. To the person who voted for Best Kissers in the World. I have no idea if they're a seattle band. I think they recorded something for sub pop a while back....but I'm not sure....anyone, anyone....bueller, bueller. To those who voted for albums released in the 80's, voted for non-seattle bands or didnt rate your selections. Your votes werent counted. Try again. what is the specific heat of argon gas at 110 degrees Rankin?, Steven ------------------------------ From: aae831@Waldo.Angelo.Edu (Kevin J. Wallace) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Sep 1995 To Carolyn (who's not the miserable failure): I do appreciate the input on the issue of people who don't post in on these enlightening conversations of Soundgarden and related bands. I hope, however, that I did not send the wrong message. I in no way intended to break the peace of the posters vs. the nonposters. I can't agree with you more. Oh, yeah.... About the Foo-fighters: I've heard "I'll Stick Around", but is the rest of the album worth going out and buying? All sorts of positive and negative input is welcome. Thanks, guys Greendoc With Peace Offerings Kevin Wallace (Greendoc) aae831@ramail.angelo.edu "Cry, if you want to cry, if it helps you see, if it clears your eyes" --"My Wave"--SOUNDGARDEN "Oh, well, whatever, nevermind" --"Come as you are"--NIRVANA ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: AIC Album Release Date Two new Alice in Chains (a CD-ROM and an audio CD) will be released in the U.S. this coming Tuesday, October 3rd. Also, Soundgarden are set to RESUME work on their next studio album. They recorded the basics of approximately half an albums worth of tunes before the Euro-festival tour began. They are currently in the PRELIMINARY stages of recording. They've maintained in recent interviews that they'd like to keep this one loose, quick and stick to the demos/jams instead of taking two days to record one guitar part (apparently their last producer, talented as he may be, was a bit anal). I assume the ideal goal is to have the album completed for a spring release, but they honesty may finish it much sooner since they are currently producing the album themselves. Whether or not the record will be released prior to spring, even if it is finished earlier is, I assume, an A&M marketing department decision. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: hey.... Author: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com at nylanr01 Date: 9/28/95 5:52 PM sorry to bother y'all again... but anyone got any information on the new soundgarden album?... i dont mean there cd plus... i mean the new new album reportedly being released in spring, or something love, stolen prayers ------------------------------ Subject: movies From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) Saw some posts on movies that Soundgarden were involved with: Lost Angels-music The Heights-music&video Basketball Diaries-music Singles-music&Chris Cornell cameo appearance Are there any others?? Thanks "In the mirror shows another face another place to hide it all" Chris Cornell nephend ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" alice in chains has some stuff done in the studio. they were *supposed* to be at the opening of the rock and roll hall of fame. unfortunately, layne staley has a little intravascular problem, if you know what i mean. you heard it here 35th ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Sep 1995 On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Kevin J. Wallace wrote: > To Carolyn (who's not the miserable failure): > > I do appreciate the input on the issue of people who don't post in on these > enlightening conversations of Soundgarden and related bands. I hope, > however, that I did not send the wrong message. I in no way intended to > break the peace of the posters vs. the nonposters. I can't agree with you > more. > > Oh, yeah.... About the Foo-fighters: I've heard "I'll Stick Around", but > is the rest of the album worth going out and buying? All sorts of positive > and negative input is welcome. > > Thanks, guys > Greendoc With Peace Offerings > > Kevin Wallace (Greendoc) > aae831@ramail.angelo.edu > > "Cry, if you want to cry, if it helps you see, if it clears your eyes" > --"My Wave"--SOUNDGARDEN > > "Oh, well, whatever, nevermind" > --"Come as you are"--NIRVANA > > what i've heard of the new one from the foo fighters, it certainly is better than what i expected. i still think dave grohl should be hiding behind the drums. talk about wasted talent. ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: movies On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, nancy e phend wrote: > Saw some posts on movies that Soundgarden were involved with: > Lost Angels-music > The Heights-music&video > Basketball Diaries-music > Singles-music&Chris Cornell cameo appearance > Are there any others?? > > Thanks > > "In the mirror shows another face > another place to hide it all" > Chris Cornell > > nephend > heretic is on the" pump up the volume" soundtrack. by the way, did anyone else realize that chris cornell was the mime in "singles"? he was hilarious. the other cool thing i noticed in singles was the riff for spoonman shows up in one scene, played on an acoustic guitar in the background. ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Riffs!!! While downing his fifteenth shot of tequila, Dan Garret said... >fave SG riffs, mine are, Cold Bitch and Searching with my good eye closed I tried to play Searching once...it's very tough to do. I love it, but it's hard. Even for rhythm guitar!!! Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: ADAMSON RICHARD J Subject: replys HI All, Yes, sorry, I did mean Larry Mullins Jr...Derr!! Jackhammer - Outshined's verse is in 7/4 while I think the chorus is in 4/4. I don't really remember. Jackovic - Yes, I was trying to say exactly the same thing. The 'commercial' tag is used negatively, constantly. The indie ethics are the source of the problem. Top ten fave albums...well this is hard! John Coltrane - Coltrane's sound Died Pretty - Doughboy Hollow Nick Cave - The Good Son Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Spy Vs Spy - AO MOD TV VERS. Hunters & Collectors - Ghost Nation Portishead - Dummy The Cure - Distenegration The Church - Priest = Aura I may regret this later but if I was stuck with these ten I could survive. Best live bands: The Young Gods, Nirvana, Hunters & Collectors, Smashing Pumpkins, You Am I, Beasts of Bourbon, U2. I have seen all these bands more than once. They all did ONE show that blew me away. The type of gig where you walk out speachless with that euphoric feeling that is only matched by sex. Unfortunately Soundgarden could have been better both times I saw them. Bands to watch: You Am I, Big Heavy Stuff, Front End Loader, Pollyanna. See ya, RICH. ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: I'm suffering BADLY today. {groan} Last night I was at a surprise birthday party for my sister, and this little black duck had waaaaaaaay too much to drink. My head is going KABOOM! KABOOM!! And bloody MoonDruid doesn't help when he writes (very imaginative though, MD, I'm proud of you) things like this: >Steve said this while sober...but I was wasted when I replyed!!! >After a few Balzi Balls, J (just J) said... >While drinking a rum and coke, Glenn the canuck said... >While drinking Red Stripe (aahhh, Jamaican good beer!), Jackhammer said, Holy Cow. Just READING about booze is not helping my woosy tummy or my bleary eyeballs................. And tomorrow is THE sporting event of the year for Australia - the big AFL grand final (Aussie Rules footy, this is) - and my team (Carlton - go blue-boys) is playing - and so I'll just HAVE to consume a few more ales while watching the big game on tv - and then just HAVE to go out on the town to celebrate the big win (I hope) afterwards - partying till dawn - letting my hair down - kicking up my heels - boogying my buns off - and generally just living it up BIG TIME...............how the hell am I going to cope with all this excitement? But hey, I'm a Soundgarden Fan!! I have ENERGY! I have STAMINA!! Of course I'll cope.......................... But in the meantime your very own Music Freak is feeling decidedly Miserably Forlorn right at this very moment. I'll be sending some responses to a few of today's postings next week - this message is about as much as I can handle just now. Till then, stay happy everyone ~ Just Carolyn ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The wreck is going down <---- I'm sure this was written about me..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: "Si tu pouvais savoir..." Subject: Kim Thayil I forget who asked, but I'm pretty sure Kim has never had a sex change. On the same subject (Kim, not sex changes) is his name short for something? Like Kimball in that Rudyard Kipling story? ------------------------------ From: Jeff Rollason Subject: Re: Rage...now you do what they told'ya! I have two Rage promo cd singles w/ b-sides if anyone's interested... JEFF ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 54] ***************************************