From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 17 Sep 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 02:50:38 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 17 Sep 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: lots of random stuff Cyberian Rhapsody Soundgarden makes me happy. Re: GREAT DRUMMERS Re: Substance Abuse Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Boring guitar posture? Unplugged type thing alternative or grunge informative Re: Substance Abuse RE: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 15 Sep 1995 Acoustic/Unplugged type thing who will be the neil young of 2015? Nationality guess what! It's almost Christmas Re: alternative or grunge informative Re: who will be the neil young of 2015? Soundgarden Digest, Satur Re: Big Dumb Internet User Acoustic/Unplugged type thing Smokestack Lightnin' Re: GREAT DRUMMERS ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: lots of random stuff From: seth * As for a Woodstock-type gathering of us Soundgarden list people, the person to contact is definitely NOT me. If someone wants to arrange such a meeting, though, I'd consider attending it. It might be interesting; we can spend hours discussing how much we like Soundgarden and how much we hate Pearl Jam. We can have a big cake in the shape of Ben's Lyle Lovett-looking head and an Eddie Vedder pinata filled with copies of BMF/SOMMS. * In answer to some of the posts that have appeared recently asking list members about their ages and whether or not they play instruments: I'm 20 (just turned 20 on Sunday) and have been playing the viola for 12 years. I played violin briefly, when I was 3 and 4 years old (Suzuki nursery school, where playing the violin is mandatory). I've just started learning to play the piano. * I don't own _Supermainstream_, but I'd be interested in getting a tape copy if someone would make one for me. In return, I can make a copy of _Superuninterview_, which is, like it sounds, an interview with the SG boys. The second half of the CD includes only the answers, so DJs could fake the interview (the questions are in the insert). * I just found out that my suitemate has met SG and that they actually still correspond. She claims to have Valentine's Day and Christmas cards from the boys, which she's having her mother send to her here at college. If and when I see these cards, which she claims feature unique SG photos, I'll scan them and make them available for everyone. * I haven't had any time to work on the Web page recently, but I will get to it and add more stuff soon. Look for more articles and images, especially (MoonDruid, thanks for the article you sent me). There should also (finally) be some sound clips soon (Tom, any news?). * SEND YOUR UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO SAPERL@MIT.EDU * I'm still dealing with bounced mail. Let me know if certain addresses are giving you trouble. I already know about MCI.NET and I've removed the troublesome address. Unfortunately, mail remains in the queue there for 150 hours or so, so you could still receive bounced messages that you wrote several days ago. Send any questions or comments to me and I'll do my best to answer them. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ Subject: Cyberian Rhapsody From: seth I'm still not quite sure what this is all about, but apparently there is some kind of online concert that will feature, among others, Soundgarden. Since I don't know what the hell is going on, check out http://www.theparamount.com/intertainet/ for more info. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: brian arend lucas Subject: Soundgarden makes me happy. Alright. Let's just all stop with the talk about lyrical meaning, musical quality, past records, and everything else about SG for a moment. Let's just take a moment to think about how it's pretty cool to have a band that we like so much it makes us feel good, and also gives us a feeling of pride when sharing it with others. "Hey what's your favorite band? Mine is *********." "My favorite band is Soundgarden." Now, don't tell me that doesn't give you a certain feeling of satisfaction. I'm not a psychotic SG follower but I'd like to acknowledge that it's just good that they are present. I hope you guys know what I mean. ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: GREAT DRUMMERS On Sep 15, 5:10pm, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > Subject: GREAT DRUMMERS > > I would just like to add one more drummer to the list. > ** BRAD WILK From Rage Against The Machine: Ever hear "Township Rebellion" or > "Know your Enemy" or just about any other song on rage's album this guy rips > shit up!!!! He's incredible live, he can pund out a beat like machine gun. > Clown > > -- > sorry. i don't listen to RAtM. i think they suck. - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "To die unsung would really bring you down" -Helmet "When they come to ethnically cleans me, will you speak out, will you defend me?" -Pop Will Eat Itself "I'm high as a kite and my teeth are green. Mary fuckin Christmas" -Dennis Leary ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Substance Abuse On Sep 15, 7:31pm, MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > Subject: Substance Abuse > > While we're at it... Not that it's any of our bussiness, but does any of > > them have a history concerning substance abuse? > > I ALWAYS figured that Hiro did...but then I started to doubt myself. Chris > does Acid now and then, to the best of my knowledge...Kim, don't know, > neither do I with Matt. Seriously, though...compared to other bands, like the > Red Hot Chili Peppers, Soundgarden seems to be on the lower end of substance > abuse. > > Moon Druid >-- End of excerpt from MoonDruid@aol.com if any of you guys read the Roling Stone interview w/ Chris, he doesn't do drugs.he might smoke a joint or something but not fuckin acid. Jesus Christ. - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "To die unsung would really bring you down" -Helmet "When they come to ethnically cleans me, will you speak out, will you defend me?" -Pop Will Eat Itself "I'm high as a kite and my teeth are green. Mary fuckin Christmas" -Dennis Leary ------------------------------ From: fe666@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles Cortez) Subject: Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame I recently took a trip down to the rock and roll hall of fame (its ten minutes from my house), and found it to actually have a section all on soundgarden in it. The only catch is, the admission is 11 bucks, but it is definately worth it. Some of the soundgarden memorbilla they have is a 5 year old picutre of chris cornell,various concert posters from the early days, the guitar chris cornell played in the loud love video, matt cameron drum sticks, and the first soundgarden tee shirt ever made.... oh yeah, the other part of the museum is pretty cool too, they have two jimi hendrix guitars and the orginal penned version of purple haze.... well gotta go, -Lara - -- >From the collective desks of: | 1994 Need For Speed- Charles Cortez Trent Michaels | Purple Haze biking Terri Wengel Nicole McFee | team Chris Iacofano | **-/TREK BIKES\-** ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Boring guitar posture? >As far as jumping up and down in the video, I thought it was kind of >funny, because it was so video-ey. I don't think that Dave really >intended it to look natural. I thought it was a lot better than all that >boring guitar-posturing. I get so sick of that. I love that!!! I love watching the guy standing there leaning back a little bit, it's so much fun, because everybody does it...and they don't even realize it!!! Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Unplugged type thing > How about it, what other songs do you feel the guys could do in the unplugged >vein? As I said earlier...Mood For Trouble. Also... Beyond The Wheel Hand Of God Hands All Over Jesus Christ Pose Outshined Hunted Down Limo Wreck Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: "BARRIGA SAMAME ERIKA LILIANA" Subject: alternative or grunge informative I am at the upc university and i have a very long work. but the problem is that i dont have information of the alternative music or grunge . i have a problem cos i dont have the exact information of what is grunge or alternative. I know some gossips but is not necesary to do my work. Also if is possible if you have the information about the meanings of the songs of the grunge music.....you know about pearl jam , soundgarden, alice in chains, nirvana, mother love bone, candlebox, and if you have more about lyrics of seattle's band. thanks ....... iwould be very pleased...... ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: Substance Abuse In a message dated 95-09-16 13:43:24 EDT, j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu (Limo Wreck) writes: >if any of you guys read the Roling Stone interview w/ Chris, he doesn't do >drugs.he might smoke a joint or something but not fuckin acid. Jesus Christ. Ummmm...like...4th of July is about an acid trip he had. Maybe that's an old acid trip though...nevermind. Moon Druid - If you ain't chokin', then you ain't tokin! ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Acoustic/Unplugged type thing >P.S. who else thinks Soundgarden should come out with some >acoustic/unplugged type of stuff? I dunno...it's not REALLY their style. They could pull it off, but I have this odd feeling that the next album is going to be a metal album. Oh, and BTW, Mood For Trouble would be pretty sweet if it was acoustic. Moon Druid - I did not want to kill!!! ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: who will be the neil young of 2015? so ya'll want to hear SG unplugged? I dont. It would be OK if they were actually trying something "new"...but the unplugged formula is old and boring. I guess it would alright if they 'wanted' to do it for their own personal satisfaction. (as opposed to some record company weasels recommendations). Actually if CC ever left to do a solo project...(Songs for Ozzy EP, Seasons, Like Suicide (acoustic)) - I'd love to hear CC solo with a National Steel Guitar. Just his voice and the music. We'll probably be hearing this 15-20 years down the road. When all the greying Seattle band members head for their rocking chairs. (and their acoustic guitars) Rock music is cyclical...everything eventually repeat's itself. Who will be the Neil Young of 2015? Steve "you look like you've been losing sleep", said the stranger on a train I fixed him with an ice-cold stare and said "I've been having those dreams again" "the chevron star...a burned out bar...and I'm talking in my drink" "without this safety-net your free... to find serene pleasure of speed" ------------------------------ From: WshuWerHre@aol.com Subject: Nationality Hi--I just have a question..Anyone know Chris's nationality? Thats all---thnks. ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: guess what! It's almost Christmas Hey list! one more thing to add to today's hang-over induced ramblings.... In the new SUB POP catalog their is a book that will be going on sale sometime in october. It's a book of charles peterson photographs. In case you didnt know (and i know alot of you dont)...charles peterson is the official SUB POP photographer. He's been documenting the scene from the beginning. His style is sort of all hair and blured images. Right above the photograph of a SUB POP backpack...there is the Screaming Life album cover in its entirety. You can see a roadie and the room they're playing in. Anyway...The book is called Screaming Life - BY Charles Peterson with michael azarrad. It's hardcover - (would this be a coffee table book?) and sells for $35.00 Here is the exact ad. - -------- BOOKS Screaming Life - by Charles Peterson with Michael Azarrad An indepth photographic documentation of the Seattle scene from its finest photographer, Charles Peterson. Tons of fabulous photos (like the one above, and the one of the cover of this catalog (a crowd shot - ed.) of groups such as mudhoney, nirvana, soundgarden and more. Written by michael azarrad. First 45,000 copies include a compilation of classic SUB POP hits. Hardback $35.00 Available in October. Call for details. If anyone is interested in this...email me. I will be emailing SUB POP and inquiring about its availability on monday. I'm more than happy to share the info.... It's not even thanksgiving and I'm thinking of christmas presents! Damn capitalistic culture!!!!! :-) nothing "more" to say, steve ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: alternative or grunge informative On Sat, 16 Sep 1995, BARRIGA SAMAME ERIKA LILIANA wrote: > I am at the upc university and i have a very long work. but the > problem is that i dont have information of the alternative music or > grunge . i have a problem cos i dont have the exact information of > what is grunge or alternative. I know some gossips but is not > necesary to do my work. > > Also if is possible if you have the information about the meanings of > the songs of the grunge music.....you know about pearl jam > , soundgarden, alice in chains, nirvana, mother love bone, candlebox, > and if you have more about lyrics of seattle's band. Ok, first lesson. Don't you dare ever call Candlebox a Seattle band again or even use their names in the same sentence with Soundgarden, MotherLove Bone, Pearl Jam, AIC, Nirvana, Screaming Trees, or even Mudhoney. Hope i was of some help. -j ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: who will be the neil young of 2015? The Neil Young of 2015 will be Dave Matthews. ------------------------------ From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Satur Saturday's digest response... - ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi > P.S. who else thinks Soundgarden should come out with some > acoustic/unplugged type of stuff? I don't think that would work. I don't see what would Kim and Ben do in such situation. On the other hand, a solo acoustic effort by Chris would kick major ass, IMHO. - ------------------------------ From: j Subject: Supermainstream > three piece? Also i have a desperate need to know who did the original > "Smokestack Lightining"? That song and "Incessant Mace" can please even Lynrd Skynrd did the original Smokestack. They're a southern rock outfit who is not longer around, since some band members died in a plane crash. - ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: GREAT DRUMMERS > There's been a lot of discussion about Matt lately so i figured i'd replace my > typical rant by making a summarized list of great drummers in MUSIC. I'd like to add 'sweat covered beast' called Dave Abbruzzesse, ex-PJ. He had that incredoible way of sneaking in quiet cymbal fills, ghost snares and stuff like that. Try to listen to a remixed version of Even Flow (the one on the single and the video), or any PJ bootleg with him on drums. Lars Ulrich (Metallica), Will (?) Clahoun (Living Colour), Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden), Stewart Copeland (The Police) and Ginger Baker (Cream) deserve to be mentioned also. - ------------------------------ From: ThisRulz@aol.com Subject: Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. > why do people care what the lyrics mean??? not everyone listens to songs Because music has a certain impact on me, my emotions and my mood. If I just wanted a kick ass rock I would be listening to Aerosmith, AC/DC and stuff like that. But, I mean, how many songs about getting laid and speeding on a highway do we need? I want music I listen to to be both musically and intelectually chalanging. Soundgarden, among others, cover both points pretty well. - ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: GREAT DRUMMERS > I would just like to add one more drummer to the list. > ** BRAD WILK From Rage Against The Machine: Ever hear "Township Rebellion" or > "Know your Enemy" or just about any other song on rage's album this guy rips > shit up!!!! He's incredible live, he can pund out a beat like machine gun. Yeah! He pounds mean hip-hop rhythms... [guess I better run for cover now] - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Re: Big Dumb Internet User On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > THIS MESSAGE IS FOR ALL YOU IDIOTS THAT CANNOT FIGURE OUT THAT YOU UNSUSCRIBE > TO THE SAME EMAIL ADDRESS THAT YOU SUSCRIBE TO. THAT THE MAILING LIST IS SENT > TO MAILING LIST USERS SO HOW IN THE HELL IS THAT GOING TO HELP UNLESS THE LIST > ADMIN IS READING THAT DAY. Hey Clown... that's a pretty cool idea you got going on the sublect line... - - Big Dumb Internet User - (Sung to the tune of "Big Dumb Sex") I know what to do, E-mail SAPERL@MIT.EDU!!!!! etc... (I can't actually remember the rest of the song, just heard it on a bootleg once... :) ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Acoustic/Unplugged type thing >P.S. who else thinks Soundgarden should come out with some >acoustic/unplugged type of stuff? I dunno...it's not REALLY their style. They could pull it off, but I have this odd feeling that the next album is going to be a metal album. Oh, and BTW, Mood For Trouble would be pretty sweet if it was acoustic. Moon Druid - I did not want to kill!!! ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Smokestack Lightnin' On Sun, 17 Sep 1995, Jovica Popovic wrote: > From: j > Subject: Supermainstream > > > three piece? Also i have a desperate need to know who did the original > > "Smokestack Lightining"? That song and "Incessant Mace" can please even > > Lynrd Skynrd did the original Smokestack. They're a southern rock outfit > who is not longer around, since some band members died in a plane crash. Um, the original version of smokestack lightning was written and performed by Howlin' Wolf. Here's the details: HOWLIN' WOLF - Smokestack Lightnin' (Chester Burnett, Arc Music Corp, BMI) Recorded in Chicago, January 1956/ Originally released as Chess single 1618 Howlin Wolf: Vocals, harmonica Hosea Lee Kennard: Piano Hubert Sumlin, Willie Johnson: Guitar Willie Dixion: Bass Earl Phillips: Drums Steven - - Your "still hungover" discography keeper - -"Thank God for cable TV when you're sick!" ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: GREAT DRUMMERS Neil Peart is awesome indeed. But beyond sheer technique, he's not very groove oriented, yknow? Have you ever heard him try to play jazz?? He can't swing at all, he plays so straight. But with Rush he's kick ass, and yes, his drum solo I saw was amazing to say the least. On Fri, 15 Sep 1995, Greg Bensimon wrote: > What about Neil Peart? I've seen him live a couple of times, and he's played > about the most awe inspiring solos I've ever heard during YYZ. I mean, the > man can play live anything Trent Reznor can lay down with a drum machine! > Speed, power, vision... What else can you ask for? > > (I guess I'm a pretty big Rush fan.) > > Greg > > ***************************************** > *** Hello, don't you know me? *** > *** I'm the dirt beneath your feet. *** > *** --------------------------------- *** > *** Greg Bensimon *** > ***************************************** > ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 48] ***************************************