From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 14 Sep 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:04:10 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 14 Sep 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Re: eleven? Drugs Re: Stacy/MTV driven idiots -Reply Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. Re: Drugs Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 10 Sep 1995 Re: Drugs Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. SOUNDGARDEN VIDEOS Re: Stacy/MTV driven idiots -Reply In response to Dan..... *** NEW MUSIC *** foofighters RE: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 6 Sep 1995 Re: In response to Dan..... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: DEWGod Subject: Re: eleven? eleven is from LA. i saw them open for candlebox about a year and a half ago. kick ass show. eleven wasn't too bad either, but the crowd wasn't into them. pretty SASSY. Ryan On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Charles Cortez wrote: > does anyone know where the band eleven is from? i am not sure > if they are from seattle or somewhere else... > > -- > >From the collective desks of: | 1994 Need For Speed- > Charles Cortez Trent Michaels | Purple Haze biking > Terri Wengel Nicole McFee | team > Chris Iacofano | **-/TREK BIKES\-** > ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Drugs In a message dated 95-09-11 01:52:31 EDT, you write: >From my observation he seemed to be on drugs......horrible drugs. Now THAT would suck, ya know? I mean, there's a pretty thick line between horrible drugs and not so bad drugs. Pot and LSD are not so bad drugs. Everything else is horrible, with more intense degrees of horrible depending on the drug itself. I hate to see people that are fucked up on drugs...especially people like Ben. The bad thing about it is...Matt, Chris, and Kim are not really that screwed up on drugs. Hiro isn't really, to the best of my knowledge. However, Hiro left and Ben came, and Ben may not have had the same morals that the original members would. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: Stacy/MTV driven idiots -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 September 1995, Stacy Meyrick wrote: >> Seeing as though I've just appointed myself as Mr. Opinion then I'll tell >> all of you that don't own it to run out and buy Foo Fighters, if they >> got a bit more play on MTV most of you probably would. Then DEWGod wrote: >foo fighters is one of the WORST crap-ass bands....... > >by the way, speaking of new releases==the new red hot chili boys album >came out last night. get that before you even THINK of touching the foo >fighters. it really is kick ass. > >sorry about the "heat" of this letter, but i don't appreciate ANYONE >telling anybody, especially on this list, that if something is overplayed >on Mtv that we'll all rush out and buy it because now it's "cool". >not everyone around here is an Mtv driven idiot like you think we are. Hmmmm, interesting. I actually had the Foo Fighters album on my list of things to buy..............after Tumbleweed's new one (that will only have meaning to the Aussies on this list), a Soundgarden old one, the Singles soundtrack, and of course RHCP's "One Hot Minute". Good to see there are varied opinions out there! {would be a rather dull world if we were all the same}. ANYWAY, I wasn't going to bother responding to Stacy's note even though I also took offense when I read her last paragraph, but after seeing DEWGod's response I thought I'd add mine to his (hope you're a he, DEWGod!! sorry if you're not). Because I'm also not an MTV driven idiot! (we don't even get MTV down here btw). Don't put people in categories, Stacy - what made you think that if any band got a bit more play on MTV most of us probably would go out & buy their albums??????? Carolyn the Music Freak but not mindless buyer of 'popular' music!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "When I hand my love in I'll be done" "Save it, just keep it off my wave" "And my youth I pray to keep" **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I think Stacy actually said it meaning that they were a great band who's material people haven;t actually heard because it doesn't get any air play. So if they did people would like them. Dan ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, stacy.meyrick wrote: > Why are clubs so shit? Depends who you ask doesn't it? Indeed... > Seeing as though I've just appointed myself as Mr. Opinion then I'll tell > all of you that don't own it to run out and buy Foo Fighters, if they > got a bit more play on MTV most of you probably would. I saw a clip for "I'll stick around" on Rage (Aussie late-night music show) and was quite impressed. Methinks that it is high on my "must purchase" list! The musical style was similar to Nirvana (for obvious reasons...), but also suprisingly fresh. Anyone else have any comments about Foo Fighters? - - Avatar ------------------------------ Subject: Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Anyone else have any comments about Foo Fighters? > >Avatar > > I have a small comment - why doesn't Dave stand still or at lease do something else than jumping up and down (video put down). Now don't tell me that it's the thing to do when your in a band to jump around. I know that! But he just goes up and down and up and down like he not sure what to do, he just knows he has to do something for the camera. It looks wrong! And while we at it - have you all notices that most of the new songs out all sound like the bands pervious album. Example: Green Days new one sounds just like doogie, Candlebox sounds just the same, AC/DC new release (even the video) could be any one of their old stuff. David Bowie now sounds like NIN's Trend. I sure hope SG doesn't do this, not our boys, surly not our boys. Jamie ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Drugs On Sep 12, 7:56pm, MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > Subject: Drugs > In a message dated 95-09-11 01:52:31 EDT, you write: > > >From my observation he seemed to be on drugs......horrible drugs. > > Now THAT would suck, ya know? I mean, there's a pretty thick line between > horrible drugs and not so bad drugs. Pot and LSD are not so bad drugs. > Everything else is horrible, with more intense degrees of horrible depending > on the drug itself. I hate to see people that are fucked up on > drugs...especially people like Ben. > The bad thing about it is...Matt, Chris, and Kim are not really that screwed > up on drugs. Hiro isn't really, to the best of my knowledge. However, Hiro > left and Ben came, and Ben may not have had the same morals that the original > members would. > > Moon Druid are you saying that Ben might be on drugs or something? - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "To die unsung would really bring you down" -Helmet "When they come to ethnically cleans me, will you speak out, will you defend me?" -Pop Will Eat Itself "I'm high as a kite and my teeth are green. Mary fuckin Christmas" -Dennis Leary ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. >And while we at it - have you all notices that most of the new songs out all >sound like the bands pervious album. Example: Green Days new one sounds just >like doogie, Candlebox sounds just the same, AC/DC new release (even the >video) could be any one of their old stuff. David Bowie now sounds like NIN's >Trend. >I sure hope SG doesn't do this, not our boys, surly not our boys. >Jamie Please god almighty not our boys. Please no, actually I picked up Ultramega Ok the other day. Great stuff there some mild traces of Black Sabbath in there. It's incredible how much Chris's vocals have improved since then. I liked them on Ultramega Ok anyway, but I'm not going to be the one top complain about improvement. Anyway I sincerely doubt that there next album will sound like there old stuff. Kyle Petty son Of Richard sounded differrent. I think when we hear the new album we'll know for sure. Because none of there b-sides sound like they belong to any particular album period they just sound like soundgarden. So I'm not going to worry. Clowm With Bazooka P.S. the version of Beyond the Wheel is incredible on Ultramega, and to think the live version on the UltramegaUnknown Bootleg is even better. I don't think our boys will ever let us down. ------------------------------ From: AFNJ84A@prodigy.com (MR CASEY C CAUGHRON) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 10 Sep 1995 - -- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- - -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > From: The Meter Man > Subject: Matt Cameron. > > I totally agree with Jamie and the rest of you who find Cameron's > drumming FANTASTIC! I've been playing drums for 11 years and he is like > God to me. He was the featured artist in Modern Drummer magazine about > six months ago. The article included transcriptions of a bunch of his > drum tracks. It was here that I learned to play stuff like "Jesus Christ > Pose" and "Wooden Jesus". Actually, in the article Matt admitted that the > drum part to "Wooden Jesus" is a rip off of Steve Gadd, one of his > drumming idols. Gadd played drums with Chick Corea. Matt also said that > Mitch Mitchell (Hendrix's drummer) was another huge influence on him. > Anyways, one of my goals in life is to meet him (like any of you care). > Since John Bonham is dead, Matt has to be the best rock drummer alive! > Just thought I'd say that. > > On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Jovica Popovic wrote: > > > >By the way, no one ever talks about Matt Cameron. my boy is a damn > > >genious on his kit. one of the best in this genre along with the > immortal > > >HERB of PRIMUS. homies ees gooood. > > HERB (Tim Alexander) was also featured on the cover of Modern Drummer about 2 years ago. In the article he listed one of his influences as Matt Cameron. Tim has worked with a few other bands and put out some percussive stuff (ie marimba, xylo, etc). Does anyone know of any solo albums or other work that Matt has done? GOON ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: Drugs In a message dated 95-09-13 12:01:16 EDT, j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu (Limo Wreck) writes: >are you saying that Ben might be on drugs or something? Yeah, pretty much, yes. I don't know for sure, but...it's been implied. I hope not...beleive me, I HOPE NOT!!!! Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: A lot of things to say and not enough time to say it. >And while we at it - have you all notices that most of the new songs out all >sound like the bands pervious album. Example: Green Days new one sounds just >like doogie, Candlebox sounds just the same, AC/DC new release (even the >video) could be any one of their old stuff. David Bowie now sounds like NIN's >Trend. Of course AC/DC sounds the same- there's no other band like them and they don't tend to change their music! Stick with a winning formula that keeps heads nodding up and down to the rhythm... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: Baldrick2@aol.com Subject: SOUNDGARDEN VIDEOS THIS MESSAGE IS FOR j_crocke@e PJ STARR and I have both tried to E-mail you, but we couldn't get through. PJ has a VERY long and detailed list of her compilations...with interviews, Headbanger's Ball clips and videos, MTV Awards, bowling w/Ricky Rachman (sp?)...and a lot of other clips from shows that I'd never even heard of. They are 2 great compilation videos...with just about everything SG has ever been on (NOT THE '94 GRAMMYS OBVIOUSLY, AS WE ALL KNOW BY NOW) and I would recommend them. I don't have the list with me, but I think they were around $12-$15 each...please E-mail PJ STARR @aol.com and she'll be glad to send you the complete list! Baldrick2 ------------------------------ From: DEWGod Subject: Re: Stacy/MTV driven idiots -Reply On Wed, 13 Sep 1995, Daniel Ladle wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 12 September 1995, Stacy Meyrick wrote: > >> Seeing as though I've just appointed myself as Mr. Opinion then I'll tell > >> all of you that don't own it to run out and buy Foo Fighters, if they > >> got a bit more play on MTV most of you probably would. > > Then DEWGod wrote: > >foo fighters is one of the WORST crap-ass bands....... > > > >by the way, speaking of new releases==the new red hot chili boys > album >came out last night. get that before you even THINK of touching > the foo >fighters. it really is kick ass. > > >sorry about the "heat" of this letter, but i don't appreciate ANYONE > >telling anybody, especially on this list, that if something is overplayed > >on Mtv that we'll all rush out and buy it because now it's "cool". >not > everyone around here is an Mtv driven idiot like you think we are. > > > Hmmmm, interesting. I actually had the Foo Fighters album on my list of > things to buy..............after Tumbleweed's new one (that will only have > meaning to the Aussies on this list), a Soundgarden old one, the Singles > soundtrack, and of course RHCP's "One Hot Minute". > Good to see there are varied opinions out there! {would be a rather dull > world if we were all the same}. > > ANYWAY, I wasn't going to bother responding to Stacy's note even > though I also took offense when I read her last paragraph, but after > seeing DEWGod's response I thought I'd add mine to his (hope you're a > he, DEWGod!! sorry if you're not). Because I'm also not an MTV driven > idiot! (we don't even get > MTV down here btw). Don't put people in categories, Stacy - what > made you think that if any band got a bit more play on MTV most of us > probably would go out & buy their albums??????? > Carolyn the Music Freak but not mindless buyer of 'popular' music!!!! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "When I hand my love in I'll be done" "Save it, just keep it off my wave" > "And my youth I pray to keep" > **SOUNDGARDEN** > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > I think Stacy actually said it meaning that they were a great band who's > material people haven;t actually heard because it doesn't get any air > play. So if they did people would like them. > > Dan > > > nope, they just plain suck. ------------------------------ From: The Meter Man Subject: In response to Dan..... I've been playing drums for a long long long time. I think jazz is the coolest drum music to listen to, but as far as rock goes Matt & Co. run the show. Jesus Christ Pose might sound hard when you listen to it, but if you saw the drum music it's really not that tough. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT'S NOT COOL AS HELL!!! I love playing along to that song. Once you learn the drum track you'll NEVER forget it. SG rocks because they're so damn ORIGINAL! I forgot what else I was going to say. Bye. The Meter Man "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a packet of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it." --Jake and Elwood Blues ------------------------------ From: Vu.Nguyen.24@nd.edu (Vu Nguyen) Subject: *** NEW MUSIC *** Hey everyone, I just went to a CD show a picked up a prize. I found a collection of SG's rare recordings from 1987-1992. HERE'S THE SONGS! STOLEN PRAYER "unreleased cornell solo EP 'Song's For Ozzy'" HEART FIST "unreleased cornell solo EP 'Song's For Ozzy'" UNHOLY WAR "unreleased cornell solo EP 'Song's For Ozzy'" BEYOND THE WHEEL "ultramega ok outtakes" NOTHING TO SAY "ultramega ok outtakes" ANGEL ON FIRE "Temple of the Dog" sessions BLACK CAT "Temple of the Dog" sessions REACH DOWN "Temple of the Dog" sessions FLOWER john peel sessions 1989 EVERYBODY'S GOT SOMETHING...MONKEY john peel sessions 1989 THANK YOU...MYSELF john peel sessions 1989 SLAVES & BULLDOZERS Live COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN (ZEP cover) Live All the songs are studio demo-like, so the sound is great! ??? ANYONE INTERESTED IN TRADES ??? Vu Nguyen, Vu.Nguyen.24@nd.edu ------------------------------ From: jgarci01@kepler.poly.edu Subject: foofighters Let me just tell everrybody that i agree with those who have said earlier to go out and buy the foofighters cd, it is great. Dave Grohl is a great all around musician and it is shown here. He sings, plays drums, guitar and bass on the album and all of the songs where written by him. Naturally the music is greatly influenced by nirvana, but it is more along the lines of nevermind, as compared to the harder, less mainstream albums. Oh yeah and everyone stop mocking dave in the video he is new at heading a band and is going to be awkward at first, cmon he has been sitting behind the drums since he was in his teens. Anyway the foofighters album should be bought by all, unless you only had enough money for one album because them i would tell you to buy a soundgarcden album! ------------------------------ From: Askairi Williams Subject: RE: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 6 Sep 1995 Hey man ! When will AIC andSG make an album together ? They would really rock . ------------------------------ From: EJ Fry Subject: Re: In response to Dan..... Being a drummer of 10 years, I must agree. Although, Herb tears shit up and so does Danny Carey of Primus and Tool, respectively. Matt is just an original, solid sounding drummer who hits the skins like a damn caveman. When they opened with Jesus Christ Pose in Berkekley, I creamed. And yes, Steve Gadd is the master. My uncle is buddies with him, he told me they used to call him Steve God. hmmmmm....anyways, it would be cool to hear from more drummers and other musicians on this list, too. fish on SASSkid On Wed, 13 Sep 1995, The Meter Man wrote: > I've been playing drums for a long long long time. I think jazz is the > coolest drum music to listen to, but as far as rock goes Matt & Co. run > the show. Jesus Christ Pose might sound hard when you listen to it, but > if you saw the drum music it's really not that tough. BUT THAT'S NOT TO > SAY IT'S NOT COOL AS HELL!!! I love playing along to that song. Once you > learn the drum track you'll NEVER forget it. SG rocks because they're so > damn ORIGINAL! I forgot what else I was going to say. Bye. > > The Meter Man > > "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a packet > of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it." > --Jake and Elwood Blues > > > > ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 45] ***************************************