From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 9 Sep 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 00:43:52 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 9 Sep 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Re: Pump up the volume. Heretic Re: F*** -Reply I hate fucking teenie-bopper,feel good,shitty dance music. I hate fucking teenie-bopper,feel good,shitty dance music. pump up the volume MTV Music Awards Carolyn/Superunknown/Singles Pubs of shit. MTV video music awards The New Album Re: Pump up the volume. Re: Pearl Jam never had Soundgarden on "Pump up.." (fwd) How clubs suck everywhere GRAMMY AWARDS Dew knows.. (fwd) Dew knows.. Re: Pearl Jam never had Ben incident... SOUNDGARDEN VIDEOS (fwd) Soundgarde song Re: (fwd) Soundgarde song ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Lee Christensen Subject: Re: Pump up the volume. On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Michael Barnes wrote: > > I heard that there is a Soundgarden song on the soundtrack to Pump Up the > Volume. Does anybody know what song this is and where it is in the movie? > Thanks. > Yup, the song is called 'heretic' it is very good :) of course. It appears a bit after half way when the students go crazy in the oval and start burning stuff and running amuck..basically haveing a good time. :) Great movie with an awesome soundtrack...out before all that gen-x hype and stuff it was the start :) seeya _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Sonic DEFsonic e-mail ar303921@mailbox.uq.oz.au ------------------------------ From: Kathryn Mercier Subject: Heretic The song on the Pump up the Volume soundtrack is called Heretic. when I heard it, I thought it was the scariest, raddest most hardcore song in the world. It took me years to be able to listen to SG again. By then, I wasn't fourteen, and I felt the first stirrings of love for SG. "Heretic, burned at the stake..... WITCH!" Kate (who now loves the song!:-)) ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: F*** -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm gonna f***, f***, f***, f***, you." The only thing the > two songs have in common is the word f***. I vow to listen erm... are you afraid of the word "fuck" that you daren't type it? are you afraid of words in general? politically correct? hypocrite? anyway, to make it soundgarden-related, anybody out there to uncover "fresh tendrils"? (english is my fourth language, y'know.) RAITZ I hide my dirty minutes under my dirty mattress and they are making me itch. My time is spilt milk. FNM, "Jizzlobber" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Maybe she isn't allowed to type rude words at her server ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: I hate fucking teenie-bopper,feel good,shitty dance music. Can you believe the shit they play in nightclubs these days? I went to 4 clubs in Brisbane last night... maybe I was just there at the wrong time, but all they were playing was fucking dance and techno! What's the fucking deal? I mean a bit of it here and there is fine, but when they play the same 2 bars of music for 10 minutes, you gotta start worrying about the state of sanity of the general listening public.... What happened to the popular grunge/metal/punk stuff? I mean, you can't dance to them that well, but they make a nice change. "Self esteem" is a song that just goes off every time it's played, but it didn't even get given a chance! One of the clubs was so fucked, that they had episodes of Mr Bean playing on the closed circut TV system, while they were playing those 2 bars of music over, and over, and over... I have severely lost my faith in the night scene around Brisbane, I think I'll confine myself to either: a) Crash and Burn... the best Heavy Metal bar in the city.. or b) My room, where I can listen to what I damn-well like! Is it this bad anywere else? Any other Brisbanites still on the list? What do you think of the current situation, did I just go on a bad night, or what?! ( and as shitty as many of you people think "Green Day" is, they didn't even play that!!! ) ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: I hate fucking teenie-bopper,feel good,shitty dance music. -Reply Dear Avatar, I live in Dorset in England and as far as I know there is one good club here that plays "real" music, it is called "the hothouse" and it is one club out of the hundreds we have here. All of the others play crappy dance music and they aren't worth the bricks they ar built from. If any of you ever come to Dorset (unlikely I know) check it out, handily enough it is right beside the train station in Bournemouth. there is also a cool pub about half a mile down the road from it called "the Gander". You are right though, the quality of clubs has gone right downhill lately. Dan ------------------------------ From: Stuart Davies Subject: pump up the volume To whoever wanted to know the Soundgarden song on Pump up the Volume is Heretic.A b-side from Louder Than Love time also available on the Jap Import Loudest Love along with a few other rarities. Stuart ------------------------------ Subject: MTV Music Awards From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Well I will stick my neck out and be the first to comment on the MTV Music Awards. OH MY GOD, I have stepped into a time wrap and have been transported back to the mid-80's. I hated the 80's music - well at lease 90% of it. That why this new and wonderful sound that came out of Seattle was so good for so many of us. It was new, and loud, and fast, and good, and pounding, and meaningful, and streetwise and etc. etc. etc. Last nights big winners were all pop style music (i.e., TLC, Hootie, MJ). The bands that play were not bad, just not my taste. Red Hot Chilies played well but never really got into it (Dave N. stated at the pre-show, that he was going to leave as soon as he could, that he was not even going to any of the parties). REM played well, Live played well. White Zombie (last act) tried to do some harm, but it was too late. Now we won't talk about Dennis's jokes or anybody jokes - suck big time. Silverchair did a nice job at the pre-show, Bon Jovieeee (cute cute cute - sick humor that's me) perform well. Everyone perform well - wait there was Hole, she (the *itch of music) try her best to cause some problems, but this too was cut short. We were told to watch the Weekly MTV News show for a piece on Love meets Madonna (who cares). All in all it was a nice normal music show, lots of big names and good music - I guess I'm just not normal. I wanted SG, PJ, AIC, I want my file manger back. And the MTV VJ - they have all good senile, they were during this oh how excepting this all is - I'm too cute for words act. Last years show was so good. Did I mention Greenday - if you blinked you miss them. I guess it's time for me to craw back into my dark hole, put some good old fashion blues/heavy rock n' roll on the old turntable, and kill a few bottles of wine. If you think I'm bitching and was all wrong about the show - pick one of the below! You can't argue with a sick mind. The cloudy mind see nothing. Be thankful for fools. Without them, the rest of us wouldn't look so good. To see others, you must only watch; to see yourself, you must look. After posting this I will be off the air until next Tuesday - so I'll read your flames then. Jamie Reality will be less painful than usual today (at lease one can hope so). ------------------------------ From: SS80757@LTU.EDU Subject: Carolyn/Superunknown/Singles Carolyn and other Soundgarden fans: First of all Carolyn, you have a great attitude. I'm glad you didn't take the first message in the wrong way. Back to SOUNDGARDEN. I haven't had time to listen to anything lately because of homework. Last night though, i did give my Silverchair CD a spin. Very cool band and music for guys who are 15-16 years old. Superunknown is such a majestic song. I love the feel of the higher guitar chords with the heart crunching bass and drums. And to bring it all together ........ of course.... Chris's fantastic lyric writing. This makes the song what it is. Simple to understand. Why hasn't anyone written anything like this before. The lyrics look us right back in the face and say "Duhhhhhhh.....Hello....McFly". I love it. I better go before I get to excited. Plus I'm already late for class.. OH Well. It's worth the fun. By the way. The "Singles" soundtrack CD is excelent as you have probably figured out from some of the other messages. I own it and love it. The movie is great too. If you haven't seen it, make it a mission in life. MR. UNKNOWN ------------------------------ From: CARLOS MOISES QUEZADA CHAGOYA Subject: Pubs of shit. I read the messages of bartramb and Daniel Ladle and I think to that, not is only in yours countries, it is in all the world, the new bands need a space in which they can go to play and "scream" their music and that space have it the fuckin techno and other. Here in Mexico you can't go at a bar to listen metal,grunge,or rock in general maybe there are some goods places but is the same case, in general you just can listen dance and techno music. I don't know some much English but I try to say what I think Ok?. atte.GUILLOTINA ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: MTV video music awards Overall the show was OK, but I must say that White Zombie, who were the reason I watched in the first place, totally sucked. The entire band was unable to keep up with the taped part of the song (the keyboards, samples, etc.). It was a poor performance from a great band. And maybe I missed it, but wasn't Quentin Tarantino supposed to appear. I don't remember seeing him. BK ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: The New Album July 21, 1995 interview with Chris Cornell in Seattle, Washington Soundgarden have begun work on their new LP at Litho Studios in Seattle. Litho is owned by Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard. At the moment the band are producing the album themselves. "Michael Beinhorn was so into sounds. He was so, almost, anal about it, that it took the piss out of us a lot of the time. By the time you get the sounds that you want to record the song, you're sick and tired of playing it." As yet, SG do not have a title for the album, nor do they have any track titles apart from 'An Unkind'. "We've got the basics for more than half an album. We've just started, but we're working at an incredibly faster pace than our last couple of records. I think this record, done this way, is gonna cost significantly less than the last record so we can afford to take the chance of it being complete shit!," laughs Chris. "If we end up a month from now being finished with it and half of it's shit we can go 'Well, alright, I guess we can try it the other way again'. We have the time and the financial ability to make big sweeping mistakes more than we used to, but it doesn't fell like it'll be a mistake." Vikki ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: Pump up the volume. All I know is that the song is called heretic, I don't know what version it is, because the first soundgarden song ever recorded was heretic back when Soundgarden was a threepiece, chris on drums and vocals and kim on guitar and hiro on bass. Clown ******************************************************************* Shame Shame Throw Yourself Away Give Me Little Bits Of More Than I Can Take If It Sits Upon Your Tongue Or Naked In Your Eyes Give Me Little Bits Of More Than I Can Try -Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: Pearl Jam never had GREEN RIVER (Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament) - Rehab Doll, Dry as a bone MOTHER LOVE BONE (Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament) - Apple, Shine BRAD (Stone Gossard, circa '92.) - Above MAD SEASON (Mike McCready, '95.) - Shame NEIL YOUNG (PJ sans Vedder) - Mirror Ball Have you ever heard any of those? All top-notch stuff. I personally think every one of those albums is really worth having and listening. Now, can you honestly say that people capable of producing that amount of (good!) music have no talent? Would someone who is rocking hard for 30 years, like Neil Young, make a whole album with them if they had no talent? Now, even if you don't enjoy their music (a shame if you don't) you must give them artistic credit and respect for what they've done. Rod Stewart has been producing "Music" I guess you could call it that since the sixties. He has a body of work that is far greater than the sum of the music generated by Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Alice in chains. He also has been "rocking" for thirty years. But would I call him talented? No. Respect him artiscally? No. Does Neil Young give me a headache? Yes. Do I have a Headache now? Yes. give it up my mind will never change on my opinion of Pearl Jam, unless they do something that changes my mind drastically. Even if that happens I will never change my mind on thier current material. nuff said, Clown - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ From: Knyt@aol.com Subject: Soundgarden on "Pump up.." I'm not sure who asked now, but yes indeed Soundgarden does have a song on the Pump Up the Volume sndtrk. It is a song called "Heretic" -- the guy plays part of it on his radio show. Cornell's voice is unmistakable. Very cool -- the angry screaming Cornell we all love so much. Also check out the Rollins/Bad Brains version of the old MC5 song "Kick Out the Jams." It's original motor city grunge (to use a taboo word) from the early 70's I think. - --I'm luck's last match struck In the pouring down wind-- Knyt ------------------------------ Subject: (fwd) How clubs suck everywhere From: seth A message from someone who seems to have mistaken me for the list: - ------- Forwarded Message From: Kevin L Conrad Subject: How clubs suck everywhere My name is Kevin and I just got online with you guys. I got my first batch of letters today. Who cares right? I just wanted to comment on the situation of the clubs today. I am in Charlotte NC and the situation here is not much better. The bottom line is people are sick and tired of seeing Soundgarden, Nirvana, and Alice in Chains rip off bands. The last wave of rock bands to come out (I'll not mention any names but I think you'll know who I am talking about) have been a poor copy of real grunge music. Don't get me wrong grunge is alive and well but that is thanks to the pioneers i.e. Soundgarden. All that I have seen in the clubs are grunge copies and the general public can see an imposter. This opens up the door for the dance clubs (which seem to be prevelant here) to take over the club market. I play in a band myself and have to admit Soundgarden is a heavy influence in my playing but I have enough respect for them and anyone who listens to music not to be a rip off but try to come up with a new style. Anyway I'm out of here hope to hear from you soon. Kev - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ From: Baldrick2@aol.com Subject: GRAMMY AWARDS Sorry if I passed along the wrong information...but I'm sitting here watching the '94 Grammys again (no mention of SG) & wondering if I've totally lost my mind!!! We ARE talking about the '94 Grammys aren't we??? Does anyone have a copy of the tape of the Grammys THAT DOES HAVE SOUNDGARDEN 'S ACCEPTANCE SPEECH, that that they would like to sell? Please E-mail me at Baldrick2@ aol.com before I totally lose my mind AND my credibility! Thanks. ------------------------------ From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) Subject: Dew knows.. >By the way, no one ever talks about Matt Cameron. my boy is a damn >genious on his kit. one of the best in this genre along with the immortal >HERB of PRIMUS. homies ees gooood. Of course. Matt is percussive GOD! His weird rhythms (dude has 4 hands, 4 legs and two brains, at least!) are a very big part of why I find SG so great. Just today, while listening to that drum intro to Wooden Jesus (off TotD) I found myself thinking: 'MY GOD, HOW DOES HE DO THAT?!?!'... Awesome. I wouldn't be able to pull it off with a couple of friends, and he does it by himself... - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) Dew knows.. >By the way, no one ever talks about Matt Cameron. my boy is a damn >genious on his kit. one of the best in this genre along with the immortal >HERB of PRIMUS. homies ees gooood. Subject: Re: Pearl Jam never had >GREEN RIVER (Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament) - Rehab Doll, Dry as a bone >MOTHER LOVE BONE (Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament) - Apple, Shine >BRAD (Stone Gossard, circa '92.) - Above >MAD SEASON (Mike McCready, '95.) - Shame >NEIL YOUNG (PJ sans Vedder) - Mirror Ball you got a couple of those mixed around. BRAD and MAD SEASONS' titles are switched. but no matter!! i have all and all kick ass. the only one that i would maybe not suggest that EVERYONE get is BRAD. stone is the guitarist, but i think that it is all of his MelLoW PJ reject stuff. 20th Century is a good one off of there, but all in all, you may get it and be like "hey, this is really peachy!!", but you'll be back to Badmotorfinger in about an hour. Q:Why did the monkey fall out of the tree? A:it died. have a nice day By the way, did i mention that Chris & Co. are GODS? ------------------------------ From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) Subject: Ben incident... I picked this up on Alice In Chains list... - ------------------------------------- From: picard@victory4.vcorps.ar Date: 09-08-95 10:12 To: AIC I received this from the comment form on the Web pages; can anyone out there answer this person's question? - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 08:31:18 -0400 From: efrasnel@glo.be To: saperl@MIT.EDU Subject: SG/WEB- Soundgarde song A friend of mine has a Soundgarden bootleg ( big deal, I know, every fan has one :-) )but on this bootleg is a song called "Get on the snake". Chris introduces this song as follows : "Here is a song from a movie wich nobody saw". Does anyone know what movie, and is there a soundtrack? Erwin, Belgium. P.S. Saw them perform at Pukkelpop in Hasselt, Belgium. They were great, even played "Waiting for the sun" (Doors y'know) - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: (fwd) Soundgarde song The movie is "Lost Angels," which stars Adrock from the Beastie Boys. Your friend either has a very limited "Louder Than Live" Promo CD, or the SG Bootleg called "Fortissimo" which is exactly the same. I saw Lost Angels a few months ago, and it was pretty cool. Chris Mackenzie "Leaves growing blood hungry leeches and your fresh deadly roses" - Soundgarden "He caught wind of the big brown beaver so he thought he'd take himself a peek, but the beaver was quick and grabbed him by the kiwis and he ain't pissed for a week (and a half)" - Primus "I know you well, you are a part of me" - TOOL ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 40] ***************************************