From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 5 Sep 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 00:08:20 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 5 Sep 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Re: (fwd) Re: The "cold sun" conspiracy Reading Review -Reply Re: Reading Review -Reply P J Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 4 Sep 1995 cornell Soundgarden tour photos 7" imports Re: I'm writing a column... Re: HORDE versus the others black hole sun 120 min. Re: Vikki & Dan's reviews Re: PJ - Ten Vs Vitalogy???? Re: 120 min. Re: black hole sun Re: 120 min. ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:48:04 +1000 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: The "cold sun" conspiracy > and tell me how they interpret it. But please no more the sun is not cold > messages. > Clown With Bazooka Well, on the sun theme (but not a cold sun!) would someone care to put a meaning to Blackhole Sun - is this a meteorological thing (pretty shallow, eh?) or is this deep and meaningful? All thoughts welcome. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 09:02:05 +0000 From: Daniel Ladle To: somms@MIT.EDU, ansel@morgan.com Subject: Reading Review -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK...everybody now. Big, big, huge, collective sigh of relief. Chris did NOT do permanent damage to his chords. Last year, he was unable to sustain both high and low notes w/o pained concentration and aid from soundboard echoes. At Reading, it was apparent that he must finally have a voice coach. His voice was powerful and controlled with zero effort and his facial expressions and stance were arrogant and teasing (he was laid-back and deservedly proud of himself). The set opened with Chris casually striding to the mike as he checked the tuning on his guitar, to apologize for canceling last years show. SG then went on to make it up with a seamless set. With their decade + experience, they know how to put together 90 minutes with no awkward lapses or inconsistencies. It just flowed. They opened with "Searching With My Good Eye Closed" (always gets the crowd surfing), continued with "Drown Me", "My Wave", "F*** You Up" (Never heard this one before. A concert song? For the new album? A potential B-side?), "Spoonman", "Kickstand", "SuperUnknown", "Mailman", "Black Hole Sun", Fell On Black Days", "Rusty Cage", "Head Down" (Chris remarked "This is always one of my favorites."), "Hands All Over", and a Doors cover which the crowd sang the chorus to (SG usually do one different song in each set as they tour, either a cover or a rarely-played-live tune like "I Love You", which they did at Milwaukee's Summerfest last year). I especially loved the "4th of July" finale (not included in last years set) and Chris's exaggerated thrashing feedback assault in dimmed stage lights to close the evening. Flawless. P.S.: I was nearly unconscious during "Hands All Over" (with NO exaggeration -- complete with sound distortion and large blue splotches beforqe my eyes) after a surfer injured my neck and nose. I was up against the fence in front and ducked when I saw him coming. This was a MISTAKE. With my head bent to the ground, I was perfectly positioned to get my head slammed down into the rail of the fence -- could have knocked my front teeth out given a few inches. Any recommendations on injury prevention? P.S.S.: Did anyone tape last years Grammy broadcast? I would love to buy it, as I had to work late and only heard about SG's acceptance speeches. Vikki <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dear Vikki, O.K. so your review was better than my one but hey a few different perspectives can be a good thing. I don't know about you but the thing I was most impressed by was Chris's new found voice. To me it seemed more powerful than ever and a damn site more tunefull than a lot of the bands who were there. Maybe you are right about the voice coach. Gott'a go now Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 09:06:48 +0000 From: Daniel Ladle To: j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu, ansel@morgan.com Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Reading Review -Reply I believe that Jeremy is right in saying that the "unknown" track was big dumb sex Sorry if everyone is now dissapointed Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 09:17:40 +0000 From: Daniel Ladle To: d010889c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us, somms@MIT.EDU Subject: P J Dear all, Am I the only person in the world who thinks that V's was their best album? Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 21:37:14 +1200 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: charris@i-max.co.nz (Clint Harris) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 4 Sep 1995 > >> I think there is another atomic theme during the song "Fopp (Dub)". During the >> song, there is talk about "odor of scorched flesh permeated the air" and some >> woman with a Japanese name is talking. Anybody know where this is from? > > that song always seemed to make me think of vietnam. isn't there >gunfire in the background? > I thought it actually came from "War of the Worlds" by H.G Wells....I think...anyone know for sure? S'yoo CH... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:16:24 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Davies To: anc11540@anc.ak.ner Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: cornell Cornell's voice began to fail him during the european tour of April.Their penultimate U.K. show was cancelled at only 3 hours notice to allow his voice to recover for the final show in London.The day before his voice was quite weak but he managed to recover in time for the final show but the strain was quite apparent.Soundgarden were supposed to return to the U.K. during August to play 3 gigs and a festival but at some point during the mainland european tour his voice failed once more.Soundgarden managed to return to these shores this year to play the festival they missed the preceeding year. Hope this explains the situation. Stuart Davies ------------------------------ From: saperl@MIT.EDU (seth) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Soundgarden tour photos Date: Mon, 04 Sep 95 18:20:09 GMT The people in charge of the official Soundgarden Web site (which is at http://rocktropolis.com/Soundgarden) have decided to give me images from the band's current tour for my page. The only other place these images can be found is in the Soundgarden area on MSN. So far, I only have a few, but there should be more coming soon. You can check them out at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/tour/ Keep your eyes peeled for exclusive pictures from the Lowlands Festival as well, which should be available in the very near future. For those of you who are used to looking at the unofficial Soundgarden homepage at web.mit.edu, much of the information (including the images) has been moved to www.sgi.net (the space was donated and the server is much faster). In fact, I've mirrored the main page there, so it can be found at either of the following addresses: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/www/somms/ http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/ Enjoy. seth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 15:42:42 -0400 From: JUNKGUNF@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: 7" imports Hey list! due to the fact that I just had a fight with my pine "email editor"....I've been forced to send this message from my previous account. If you have any questions or want to add something to this....please email me at: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu thanks, steven - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --- Here is an update to the bootleg discographies. A big thank you to jake starr for the updated information. If any of you have any of these (especially the live FOPP)...get a hold of me. 7" imports "Incescent Mace"/"Loco Mosquito" Description of cover: red-toned group shot circa 1988 (w/Hiro) - - "Loco Mosquito" is mislabeled - the actual song is "Flower". This version of Flower is straight from the Peel Sessions in 1989. But, this version is BADLY recorded, sped up, more hiss and crackles etc. Other list's claim that this version is a rather early demo of flower. - - "Incescent Mace" is misspelled from orig. Ultramega OK version. This one is slightly better recorded than Loco Mosquito. From the Pyrrhic Victory compilation. Matt is listed as punk. "Gun (live)"/"Thank You (Falletin Me Be Mice Elf Agin)(live)" Description of cover: wierd hand drawn monster Notes: Titled: "Groovy Reaction" from the I-beam in S.F. 2/13/89. EP "Gun" + 3 Rare Tracks. (post sleeve) Description of cover: color live shot of Chris Track listing: Gun/Communication Breakdown/I Love You/Head Injury Notes: Live in Seattle 1988, I Love You is early title for I Awake "Thank You"/"Everybody's got something..." (post sleeve) Description of cover: posed shot of Chris on yellow paper Notes: A-side is Sly and the Family Stone song, B-side is the Beatles song, Ultra-Mega OK outtakes Title: "Garden of Love...Garden of Death...He Plants the Soundgarden" Description of cover: purple-toned garden god (?) Track listing: Earache My Eye/Big Bottom, Notes: Live at Whiskey in LA, same cuts as promo CD Fopp! (live) b/w SUB POP Rock City Description of cover: b&w xerox of King Kong vs. Robot Kong Notes: "On Blue vinyl 7". #289 or 500 limited tour ed....on Pub Sop (not sub pop!) Notes: A-side live at Maxwell's in NJ 8/11/89, B-side live at CBGB's 8/10/89, blue wax, supposedly put out by roadies Cop Killer b/w Cop Killer (live) Description of cover: xerox shot of police officer on blue paper Notes: A-side is Ice-T and Body Count banned studio version, B-side is Soundgarden live from Lollapalooza 1992 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------- Non-CD tapes. (I know there are a ton of these!) 3/12/94 KB Halen Denmark 3/12/94, full show 105 minutes, Grade: B- 6/06/94 Ogden, Utah, full show, 135 minutes, Grade: C+ 7/01/94 Minneapolis, Mn 7/1/94, full show 121 minutes, Grade B+ because it contains the best version of Night Surf! 7/02/94 Milwaukee, WI Summerfest '94, Marcus Amphitheater, Full show (23 songs), Grade: C- If anyone has: 6/14/94 Rochester, NY 8/94 Barrie, Ontario, Molson Ampitheatre 8/93 CNE Stadium, Toronto 7/92 Barrie, Ontario, Molson Ampitheatre ...get ahold of me. These are the shows I've been to! END of Boot Discography V2.45 ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:08:07 -0400 To: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: Re: I'm writing a column... Cc: somms@MIT.EDU On Sep 1, 4:17pm, MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > Subject: I'm writing a column... > Hey! I got a spot, the music column, for the high school newspaper. That > means that I gotta come up with a name for it. > Whadday think...SOMMS Digest? > Somebody give me some ideas. > > Moon Druid >-- End of excerpt from MoonDruid@aol.com not SOMMS.... Soundgarden is sacred. What kind of music anyway? a good name might be.... "the dirt", or "Better than your music" music digest? or simply put, "Lucifer's orchestra" - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "This is not an exit" -Anthrax "I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL "I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:10:38 -0400 To: Matt Toomey Subject: Re: HORDE Cc: somms@MIT.EDU On Sep 1, 10:44pm, Matt Toomey wrote: > Subject: Re: HORDE > Not that any of you probably care, but I'm going to HORDE this weekend to > see the best rock n' roll band of our generation - The Black Crowes. > Don' flame me you, i don't consider Soundgarden to be "rock n' roll." > DOn't mean to start anything, but Van Halen used to rule. Then they replaced DL Roth with Sammy Hagar. i still shudder at the thought... > - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "This is not an exit" -Anthrax "I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL "I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:29:21 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: Daniel Ladle Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: versus the others On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, Daniel Ladle wrote: > Dear all, > Am I the only person in the world who thinks that V's was their > best album? nahh, I agree with you daniel. versus is by far their best album to date. and I think they are going to have to work very hard to top it. maybe they should re-enlist dave? just about all my favourite pearl jam songs come from that album. specifically, rearviewmirror, rats and dissident. every song is cool, and you don't have to wade through the bullshit of hey foxymophandlemama and aye davanita to find the good stuff. I know there are a lot of ten fans out there (that's *you* little joe), but I think that the songs on versus are better written than those on ten. but maybe I've heard alive and jeremy far too many times :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:38:02 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: John Grieves Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: black hole sun On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, John Grieves wrote: > > Well, on the sun theme (but not a cold sun!) would someone care to put a > meaning to Blackhole Sun - is this a meteorological thing (pretty shallow, > eh?) or is this deep and meaningful? I always thought this song was about judgement day. if you watch the clip (and I'm sure everyone here has seen it once or twice :), it looks a lot that way. y'know, all the shit in the world getting sucked away by some other-worldly force? ...won't you come, and wash away the rain... ...drown my fear, till you all just disappear... ...times are gone for honest men... ...heaven send hell away... ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: 120 min. From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:15:16 -0400 Well did anyone see MTV's 120 min. on Sunday night? For once MTV had a half decent show. The show covered the Reading thing. It had a short clip of the bands, the latest video of the bands, and a short interview with the bands. And you ask what bands did they do. OH!! White Zombie, Smashing Pumpkins, Pennywise, Beck, Blind Melon, Silverchair, and YES, YES, YES - Soundgarden. They showed "Fell on Black Days", showed just a second or two of the live performance (they did show Ben so I was happy) and interview Chris and Kim. They were ask about a new album - and did Chris and Kim give a good answer - NOOOOO!. Chris talked about having allot of material and how hard it is to make a choice on what should go on the next release. But no date - since SG has a good manager and record producer - I think they will come out near the Christmas time slot. When Chris was asked why they were doing the European tour - he flatly stated the money. Kim also made a comment about seeing the queen's rear (my word - his was less tactful). All in all the few minutes they were on was good. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:12:21 +1000 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Vikki & Dan's reviews Hey guys, I thought BOTH reviews were good. Fun to read but they made me green with envy that I wasn't there also to give a review of my own!! However, the BIG QUESTION I have IS.......................................... did Vikki get to meet Dan who was wearing his luminous Superunknown T-shirt & his girlfriend on his arm????????????????????????????????????????? Carolyn the Music Freak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Feel the rhythm with your hands; steal the rhythm while you can" - Spoonman "So don't you lock up something that you wanted to fly" - Fell on Black Days "When I hand my love in I'll be done" - Half "Save it, just keep it off my wave" - My Wave "And my youth I pray to keep" - Black Hole Sun **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:25:52 +1000 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: Carolyn Subject: Re: PJ - Ten Vs Vitalogy???? On 4 September 1995 Daniel Ladle wrote: >Dear all, > Am I the only person in the world who thinks that V's was their >best album? > Dan Okay, Dan - firstly you'll probably get a few replies (esp from Clown) telling you off for even THINKING about discussing Pearl Jam on the Soundgarden mailing list. But I won't! The first PJ album I ever bought was Vs. I had listened to Ten but it wasn't mine so I couldn't thrash it over & over on my stereo. Anyway, as a result I like Vs. the best. I reckon as a general rule, the album of a band you hear first you like the most. I just LOVE the "fastness" of the songs on Vs - like Rearview Mirror, Glorified G, Leash, Go, Animal - they are great for pumping you up!............and Rats is just different, really cool...........and nothing can quite beat listening to Eddie's fantastic strong voice in Daughter and Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town (although of course Chris in Black Hole Sun is also very powerful - no I'm NOT comparing them, I REFUSE to)..................and Eddie sounds so MOURNFUL in Indifference that it's hard not to feel moved when listening to it. In fact there's no song on Vs I dislike. That's just my humble opinion. I'm not even going to mention Ten & Vitalogy - - though I think they both have their merits. Still, to me, Vs is the best. {Just got Blind Dog's response - seems he & I have a similar taste in music!} Cheers, Dog, and Dan ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:39:31 +1000 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: Carolyn Subject: Re: 120 min. On 4 September Jamie wrote: >Well did anyone see MTV's 120 min. on Sunday night? >And you ask what bands did they do. OH!! White >Zombie, Smashing Pumpkins, Pennywise, Beck, Blind Melon, Silverchair, >and YES, YES, YES - Soundgarden. Hi Jamie, Can you tell me what Pennywise & Silverchair were like? Your opinion. Were they interviewed too? Just curious. Cheers Carolyn the Music Freak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Feel the rhythm with your hands; steal the rhythm while you can" - Spoonman "So don't you lock up something that you wanted to fly" - Fell on Black Days "When I hand my love in I'll be done" - Half "Save it, just keep it off my wave" - My Wave "And my youth I pray to keep" - Black Hole Sun **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:19:47 +1000 To: blind dog From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: black hole sun Cc: somms@MIT.EDU At 09:38 AM 9/5/95 +1000, blind dog wrote: >On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, John Grieves wrote: >> >> Well, on the sun theme (but not a cold sun!) would someone care to put a >> meaning to Blackhole Sun - is this a meteorological thing (pretty shallow, >> eh?) or is this deep and meaningful? > > I always thought this song was about judgement day. if you watch >the clip (and I'm sure everyone here has seen it once or twice :), it >looks a lot that way. y'know, all the shit in the world getting sucked >away by some other-worldly force? > > ...won't you come, and wash away the rain... > ...drown my fear, till you all just disappear... > ...times are gone for honest men... > ...heaven send hell away... > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > > > Yeah, that makes sense, blind dog! I'm someone who tends to view lyrics very superficially - I never look at meanings of a song unless it basically smacks me in the face and says "LOOK! I AM THE MEANING OF THIS SONG!" Thanks! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:47:40 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: Re: 120 min. On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > They were ask about a new album - and did Chris and Kim give a good answer - > NOOOOO!. Chris talked about having allot of material and how hard it is to > make a choice on what should go on the next release. But no date - since SG > has a good manager and record producer - I think they will come out near the > Christmas time slot. When Chris was asked why they were doing the European so, jamie, does this mean the record will be out for christmas or what? the phrase 'a lot of material' strikes a chord in my heart :) ps. your (jamie) address was causing bounced mail today and yesterday, if I remember correctly. was your mailbox out of order or what? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 36] ***************************************