From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 3 Sep 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 01:01:25 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 3 Sep 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Re: HORDE Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 2 Sep 1995 I'm writing a column... (fwd) Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 Chris and friends.... Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 Re: Re:Chris's Themes ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 22:44:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Toomey To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: HORDE Not that any of you probably care, but I'm going to HORDE this weekend to see the best rock n' roll band of our generation - The Black Crowes. Don' flame me you, i don't consider Soundgarden to be "rock n' roll." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Matthew Ian Toomey ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Man was born to love- ^ Though often he has sought ^ Like Icarus, to fly too high. ^ And far too lonely than he ought ^ To kiss the sun of east and west ^ And hold the world at his behest- ^ To hold the terrible power ^ To whom only gods are blessed- ^ But me, I am just a MAN." ^ ^ -M. Patton ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 02:01:35 EDT From: AFNJ84A@prodigy.com (MR CASEY C CAUGHRON) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 - -- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- > > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 21:39:35 EDT > From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) > Subject: (fwd) weekly ranting > To: somms@MIT.EDU > > > Comments on weekly ranting > > I think that pearl Jam was looking for a quick buck with vitalogy. I can tell that most of you people are not musicians or play in any bands. Most bands sign a contract for a certain amount of albums. The bands get paid the same regardless. (some contracts allow royalties). Pearl Jam may have been rushed. Who knows. There are lots of bands that are still independent and full of energy (has any one heard of ZOOM, Panel Donor, Molly Mcguire?) I have to admitt that I do listen to a lot more 'local' bands than I do 'major label' but a couple bands arround here have signed to a 'major' Has anyone heard of these 'local' bands now on a 'major label' Season to Risk Kill Creek Truck Stop Love Shiner Grither Paw (I know you have heard of them) Here is a couple true alternative bands The Voluputous Horror of Karen Black Ed Hall GOON ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 02:32:29 EDT From: AFNJ84A@prodigy.com (MR CASEY C CAUGHRON) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 2 Sep 1995 - -- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:34:54 +1000 > To: somms@MIT.EDU > From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) > Subject: Alternate rant > > Just while we're talking about the whole alternative thing, I thought I'd > add my three penneth or so: > > 1. Alternative is a subjective term - it's like the term larger, it means > different things to different people in different situations. To me, > alternative means different to something - hence, alternative music to me > means Mariah Carey stuff, to a Mariah Carey fan it means Soundgarden. I > reckon scrap the whole term as trying to apply to a type of music - it > makes no sense anymore. > > 2. Labelling a band "alternative" does not make that band good or bad - - a > label can be used to ill-effect at times. What I'm getting at is that a > band can be liked or disliked by a group of people just due to it being > called alternative, and this is not good - listen to the music and then > decide. > > 3. It doesn't make a lick of difference to a band's music whether the band > is alternative or not - take for instance, Soundgarden - Soundgarden's > music is Soundgarden's music, regardless of whether they are alternative, > pop, heavy metal, classical etc.etc. > > Hopefully this has made some sense, and I'd like to hear someone's > comments, but please, don't fall into the trap of having to label bands > and only like bands that fall into certain categories - OK? > > Jackhammer. I played in a band called Rusty Mama and the most asked, and also the hardest to answer, was "What kind of music do you play". I would always answer "Well I play Rusty Mama music" (never good enough). I had to resort to descriptions like: "Alternative" we were definately different "Punk" at times "Country" at times "Cow Punk" the most used by us "Rock-a-Billy" like the Reverend Horton Heat "Rock and Roll" Oh yeah, I can forget the self gratifying "Good Music" What it all came down to is you need to listen to us (or any band) and make your own descission. You either like us or dislike us. It doesn't matter what "type" or "kind" of music it is. There are only two choices: 'I like' & 'I don't like' Don't resort to the choices 'good' & 'bad' because you can like bad music if it keeps your interest. GOON ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:17:55 -0400 From: MoonDruid@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: I'm writing a column... Hey! I got a spot, the music column, for the high school newspaper. That means that I gotta come up with a name for it. Whadday think...SOMMS Digest? Somebody give me some ideas. Moon Druid ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 20:01:08 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 To: somms@MIT.EDU > > > Comments on weekly ranting > > I think that pearl Jam was looking for a quick buck with vitalogy. < I can tell that most of you people are not musicians or play in < any bands. < Most bands sign a contract for a certain amount of albums. The bands < get paid < the same regardless. (some contracts allow royalties). Pearl Jam may < have been < rushed. Who knows. If they get paid the same regardless why rush the damn album? There still going to get paid. Secondly a majority of artists get royalties per album, and if Pearl Jam followed in the path of Soundgarden or any other musicians with common sense, they have established they're own publishing companies for there music so they would definitely get royalties per album sold. Third if they just cared about the music(The whole ticketmaster thing) they would have waited to sign with a major label that offered a contract to benefit them. Since soundgarden went major label first they definitely had to have advice that could have helped them. Plus you know little about business, if vs. goes platinium in a week, the next album will have success of a similar magnitude, therefore waiting a few months to record the album could easily be used as a propaganda trick to generate anticipation for a new album, I heard a million times about a new album coming out by a band that was 2 years in the making, that statement is commonly used as propaganda. Btw, I will keep knocking Pearl Jam untill I see fit to stop. Clown With Bazooka There are lots of bands that are still independent and full of energy (has any one heard of ZOOM, Panel Donor, Molly Mcguire?) I have to admitt that I do listen to a lot more 'local' bands than I do 'major label' but a couple bands arround here have signed to a 'major' Has anyone heard of these 'local' bands now on a 'major label' Season to Risk Kill Creek Truck Stop Love Shiner Grither Paw (I know you have heard of them) Here is a couple true alternative bands The Voluputous Horror of Karen Black Ed Hall GOON ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:56:35 -0600 (MDT) From: DEWGod To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Chris and friends.... I am quite new to the list, so as my first message to all, i would just like to say that SOUNDGARDEN FUCKIN' KICKS ASS. Have a nice day. Lovin it Loud, That one new home skillet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 02:37:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Rollason Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 To: somms@MIT.EDU On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, MR CASEY C CAUGHRON wrote: > I can tell that most of you people are not musicians or play in > any bands. > Most bands sign a contract for a certain amount of albums. The bands > get paid > the same regardless. (some contracts allow royalties). Pearl Jam may > have been > rushed. Who knows. Actually, bands such as Pearl Jam, who do receive royalties, may very likely churn out an album because it will make them a "quick buck". Whether it's true in the case of Vitalogy, I don't know (or care). Also, for your info, bands who sign to majors usually sign for a certain number of albums plus a certain number of options, in which the label has the option to release the record or not. As far as royalties go, if you know anyone who is signed to a major or a large indie, and they write their own songs, but are not receiving any royalties (on top of their per diem or salary), then they are getting screwed (assuming they're selling records, of course). Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:32:30 +1000 (EST) From: Avatar To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Re:Chris's Themes On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, LITTLE JOE wrote: > On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Tony Dawe wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > > > > > a couple. btw, how is naked in the cold sun a contradiction? Being naked does > > > > try the sun being cold. the sun is usaly warm. > > You guys are really obsessed with those fourth of july lyrics. I can't > believe you are having such a big debate about being 'naked in the cold sun' > It's a song about the aftermath of nuclear war, the cold sun Chris is > referring to is most likely the sun obscured by the fallout after a > nuclear explosion. > > > ___________________________ > = ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN = > =========================== Yeah, probably... but no matter what it all means, 4th of July is still a great song. It adds to the diversity of the music on Superunknown, even if the lyrics are wierd, have a go at this one: Pale in the flarelight, the scared light cracks and disappears... Can anyone suggest how light could be scared or crack? - - Brad ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 34] ***************************************