From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 24 Aug 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:14:28 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 24 Aug 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: http://www.pollstar.com/ Reading Festival And more for silverchair fans (fwd) Has chris lost the ability to hit the high notes? -Reply Re: And more for silverchair fans (fwd) Re: What makes a fan. Chris's themes Re: Has chris lost the ability to hit the high notes? Re: What makes a fan. a film called Hype Re:Chris's Themes Howdy from Canada/album news (fwd) Howdy from Canada/album news Re: explain yourself :) Re: Howdy from Canada/album news Re: explain yourself :) Re: AIC Record/News from Layne (fwd) Re: Has chris lost the ability to hit the high notes? Internet message Truly CD for sale/trade ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:28:19 -0700 From: Tommi Pasanen To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: http://www.pollstar.com/ Tour dates and venues in Europe source: Pollstar (URL: http://www.pollstar.com/) 08/23/95 Dublin (IRE) RDS Festival 08/25/95 Dronten (NET) Lowlands Festival 08/26/95 Leopoldsburg (BEL) Pukkelpop Festival 08/30/95 Helsinki (FIN) Ice Hall 09/01/95 Stockholm (SWE) Globe 09/02/95 Copenhagen (DEN) Valbyhallen 09/04/95 Offenbach (GER) Stadthalle 09/05/95 Munich (GER) Terminal I 09/06/95 Oberhausen (GER) Turbin Halle 09/08/95 Winterthur (SWI) Winterthur Festival 09/09/95 Reggio (ITA) Omilia Festival Tommi Pasanen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:56:45 BST From: sjohnsto@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Johnston) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Reading Festival Does anyone know if Radio 1 are going to broadcast the Soundgarden set from Reading? There's no way I could've made it there.... too much work :( Anyway I'm relying on a radio broadcast and I thought Radio 1 would be broadcasting on the Sunday ('cause they were going to broadcast them last year) but they're doing a Donington show then instead...... btw Anyone recommend any good live recordings??? I've got Push ( a 2CD set ) but the quality's a bit crap. I'm looking more for B-sides and stuff from the earlier singles 'cause I can't get them over here and really want the stuff I'm missing... Cheers, Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:19:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Kelly M Allen Subject: And more for silverchair fans (fwd) To: somms@MIT.EDU Wheeew! Thank you very much Carolyn! Maybe we need to start a Silverchair mailing list. (I'm sure Seth is thinking the same thing.) It's always exciting (at least for me) to hear directly about stuff like this happening in other parts of the world. That is, other than the U.S. I'm sure you could use a break from all that typing, but whenever you catch your breath (or your fingers catch theirs), More! More! Krazed and It's the Middle of the Week, I Wish I Could Get Away From these Loser Fucks at Work, Kel kmast7+@pitt.edu - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:42:27 +1000 From: Carolyn To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: And more for silverchair fans Hi folks!! Eeeeeeek!! What have I created?? In my very first message only last week you might remember I wrote the following: >Has anyone out there heard of Silverchair, Tumbleweed, Cruel Sea, >Midnight Oil, Hoodoo Gurus?? All pretty good Australian bands. I was >surprised to find mention of Silverchair on the World Wide Web so I guess >someone in the US knows them...... And as you all know that generated quite a lot of talk about Silverchair. SORRY to all you non-Silverchair-lovers!! (although I guess if you don't like Silverchair you wouldn't even be reading this letter - HOWEVER if you don't like Silverchair and ARE reading this, please read on and look at the interview I've typed in at the end - it just might make you dislike them a little less.......) {and an advance warning - this is a long message so grab yourselves a cup of coffee, can of coke, smoke, whatever, and settle down for a bit of a read......} ANYWAY, just to fill you in on the picture ~ On 21/08/95, LEM89 (Laura) wrote: >TOMORROW > >You say that money isn't everything >Well, I'd like to see you leave without it > >{the only part I'm not sure about is "fat boy" What in the world is this >song about?????) And on 22/08/95, Kelly Allen wrote: >Thanks for the info. I couldn't understand what the hell they were >singing in some of the verses. > >Regarding the term "fat boy", I thought it might have to do with a >homeless or extremely poor person talking to some rich, well fed, >selfish, hopelessly clueless bastard (i.e. fat boy). I don't know. Make >any sense to anyone? Okay, Now to my first response. Laura, just thought I'd better let you know you've got a word wrong in your lyrics of Tomorrow - it's "Well, I'd like to see you LIVE without it" in the line above. (not that this matters much). And I had a newspaper article about the band when they first released Tomorrow, and unfortunately I now can't find it. But I do remember that the song wasn't really particularly about anything. It certainly is talking about a fat boy, but not about anything profound. Some of their songs aren't supposed to be taken too seriously/analysed. But some are based on real occurrances {read on for details}..... Getting back to putting you in the picture ~ On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Limo Wreck wrote: >> I've seen a lot of talk about Silverchair so far. Buy the album. They might be >> young but they can fuckin thrash. They also thank You Am I in the credits. On 22/08/95, LITTLE JOE wrote: >Silverchair i'm not so sure about, but You am I are pretty cool. >Silverchair got their name by combining the title of a You Am I song >(Berlin Chair), with a Nirvana song that must have Silver in it somewhere On 23/08/95, DEFsonic wrote: >It was from a Nirvana song that doesn't have Silver anywhere in it. Has >sliver in it tho :) Those kids get mixed up all the time. And now for my second response. I doubt that Silverchair WAS named for a Nirvana song {btw that song Sliver is a fantastic one - I actually listened to it in my car on the way to work this morning} because (as I've mentioned before) Silverchair didn't even like Nirvana. I learned this from an interview of the band just after the Frogstomp album was released, in a great Australian magazine called JUICE (I recommend it to any Aussies out there). Here are a few items/quotes of interest from this interview, done by Rob Johnson from JUICE magazine back around March 1995, talking first about Frogstomp and then talking to Daniel Johns (Silverchair's lead singer): *********************************************************** "At their best, like the opening track 'Israel's Son', Silverchair swing loud & relatively slow...................It sets the tone for the rest of the album; keep it simple at first, grunge it up at the chorus, go apeshit in the middle eight. Drench the melodies in the fuzziest guitar you can get. Which isn't to say the album's bad - these elements are often repeated because it's exhilarating to hear them done well, as they are here. And Johns, despite his age, is a distinctive lyricist. Where the most successful stabs at alternative rock have been characterised by a mixture of cynicism (the legacy of punk) and self-loathing (the legacy of economic depression), Johns' lyrics are characterised by something else - narratives that are spawned from wide-eyed reflection on the world around him, rather than rallying cries about perceived justice. The echoes of alterna-rock predecessors are only there in 'Tomorrow', in the scream of 'You gotta wait, fat boy/Fat boy/Wait till tomorrow'. But when you come to 'Faultline', written about a family friend who died in the Newcastle earthquake, the simplicity of the story, the inability to interpret what has happened - 'It happened so fast/Mother nature strikes once again', he growls - actually works in favour of the song. The same happens with the couplet that opens the bridge of 'Pure Massacre'. When recited, 'There's people crying/There's people dying', it sounds dumb. But when set to Silverchair's guitar blitzkrieg it becomes scary rather than sinister. And heavy guitar rock always works best with these broad brush strokes. It's not a genre given to subtlety. 'It's not really, like, full-on heavy,' says Johns of the album in general. 'It's more the same style as 'Pure Massacre'. It's more - more like Helmet.' As principal songwriter, he isn't shy about his influences - if more than one person has commented on the similarity of his voice to Eddie Vedder's, he has a simple explanation: 'When we started we heard Pearl Jam and went, "Alright, that sounds hell." So that's why we sounded like Pearl Jam. But we've kinda gone off them since then.' This is what Daniel Johns says about playing at festivals like Livid and the Big Day Out, where the band got a chance to meet their musical heroes [like Soundgarden]: 'We didn't talk to them.' Why not? Johns shoots me a look that suggests such a question is almost too stupid for words. 'We didn't want to look like COCKHEADS or anything.' This is probably Silverchair's main concern at this stage in their career - to make good songs and not look like cockheads. While pundits are scratching their heads and asking, 'How do you sell hundreds of thousands of copies of your first single, and then take your maths homework seriously?', the band pay each other out if anyone starts displaying rock star tendencies. Cut to Courtney Love's disastrous Selina's gig in Sydney at the start of this year. Love is standing on stage, saying in a baby-doll voice: 'That guy from Silverchair - he looks like my husband.' A significant portion of the audience shudders - in an evening of ghoulish pronouncements from Love, this must rate as one of the sickest. Then she adds: 'But he sounds like Eddie. And that's not so great.' It was at the Big Day Out in Melbourne when they finally came face to face. Johns was sitting in a tent, chatting to Andy Kent from You Am I, when Love walked past, looked in, and stopped. There was dead silence for about 40 seconds, during which time Love stared at Johns, as if to look right through him. Those who were there say you could have heard a pin drop. What does a teenage kid from Newcastle, who suddenly gets bracketed with bands he admires, do when the wife of Kurt Cobain stares him down? Daniel Johns stared back. Talking about the incident afterwards, he appeared not unimpressed, just disinterested. 'We never really liked Nirvana,' says Johns. 'We liked Pearl Jam and stuff.' [Like Helmet and Soundgarden] To describe the members of Silverchair as naive would be condescending - to a large degree, they know what they're doing. To say they're over-hyped is ridiculous - no one can control what the public wants, and whether they want more or less of anything. They can only respond. The endearing thing about Silverchair is that with this band, what you see is exactly what you get. And the long and the short of it is that these are three 15-year-old guys who have made a good record that lots of people want to buy. [since this interview at least one of them has turned 16] Bed Gillies is in a position to tell the real story: 'Our teachers still give us a hard time about our haircuts,' he says. 'We're like' - and here Chris, who can see what's coming, starts to laugh - 'We're like, "fuck off".' Obviously, Silverchair are having too much fun being themselves to give a damn about being a phenomenon." *********************************************************** Phew! There's my whole lunch break gone with typing all that. Hope at least some of you thought it was worthwhile, hopefully giving those of you who give a shit a bit more insight into the three kids from Australia............. 'til next time ~ Carolyn Australian Lover of Music ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Feel the rhythm with your hands - steal the rhythm while you can" - Spoonman "And my youth I pray to keep" - Black Hole Sun ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:17:12 +0000 From: Daniel Ladle To: JUNKGUNF@aol.com, somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Has chris lost the ability to hit the high notes? -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all! I think this is going to be a very important mini-tour for the boys in SG. I dont know if anyone else has noticed...but chris's voice is different since he had that throat problem last year. Listen to his live voice from the March 94 european tours...then compare that to his voice in the FoBD video and the Self Pollution sessions. He seems to be forcing his singing. (NOTE: He still has the best voice this side of R. Plant and Paul Rodgers). He hasnt been able to hit the high notes since early last year...and he seems to be hiding behind some voice filtering (kyle petty...). How will this change affect the bands music? Will they be forced to go into a more "harder" or electronic effects-laden musical style? Can they still perform a quiet acoustic number such as "Like Suicide" or "Mind Riot"? I hope the answer is YES! SG Euro-fans...keep us posted! Has anyone else heard this change in vocal stylin's? Steve <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dear Steve, If there is a change I'm sure we will be able to notice it at reading this weekend. Tell you after Dan ------------------------------ Subject: Re: And more for silverchair fans (fwd) From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) To: somms@MIT.EDU, kmast7+@pitt.edu (Kelly M Allen) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:21:09 -0400 Silverchair has a Web page at: http://student.uq.edu.au/~s322217/silverchair.html there is information for a mailing list on this page. Jamie > [quoted message deleted to save space -listadmin] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:01:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathryn Mercier Subject: Re: What makes a fan. To: somms@MIT.EDU Hey Ruiz-- You don't need to define a fan for us. Personally, I love Soundgarden and I love Pearl Jam... not on the same level and not for the same reasons! FOr you to say that as a true fan, you have to love all the songs and not take exception to others... that's just B.S. There are some SG songs that kind of make me cringe. And some Pearl Jam. But I choose to love them as whole artists. And I am valid in that. As soon as you define a fan, you limit them. Kate (jacinthe@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:09:12 -0400 From: LEM89@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Chris's themes Here is my grand list of themes in the lyrics of Chris Cornell, which I have been working on for some time. Thanks to people on the SOMMS mailing list for adding to this, especially Clown with Bazooka, for his new themes. Please send in your additions!! CATHOLIC/RELIGIOUS STUFF Jesus Christ Pose Holy water's rusting me I'm going to the holy land don't give me your savior Wooden Jesus I'll cut you in on 20% of my future sin Jesus tries to crack a smile, beneath another shovel load Harvest the souls Say Hello To Heaven In my youth I pray to keep Jesus I can't see my feet pray if you want to pray/if you like to kneel TEARS/RAIN/WATER And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore I'll take the river down to still water pouring down wind bathed in persperation drowned my enemies holy water is rusting me the wreck is going down, get out before you drown damn the water if it's life you want to drink Damn the river burn the wine Swallowing rivers belongs to the sea Cool in the water way where the baptized drown Drown my fear You've got the juice to fill my cup And would it pay you more to walk on water I was crying from my eye teeth Tears of the feeble cry if you want to cry, if it helps you see fallin' like rain, into her schemes Drown me in you And we fall like a tear falling to the ground Soundgarden is a tear in an eye dreaming won't you come and wash away the rain where the river's high And you can't grow feathers in the rain DOGS and ride a pack of dogs when the dogs are looking for their bones someone let the dogs out/they'll show you where the truth is the grass is always greener where the dogs are shedding You call me a dog SNAKES far too long for snakes Get On the Snake Lies the snake GOLD While the rest of you harvest the gold You threw me out cause I went digging for gold safe outside my gilded cage SLAVES/IMPRISONMENT I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run Slaves and Bulldozers And you swear to me, you don't want to be my slave Hands of the slave Slaves are all working four-walled world safe outside my gilden cage CONTRADICTIONS I'm feeling that I'm sober, even though I'm drinking Everything I've held is what I've freed Everything I gave is what I need I got up feeling so down it wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich, than to bury you poor would you take it wrong, or would you make it right whomsoever i've cured, I've sickened now whomsoever I've cradled, I've put you down if this isn't what you see, it doesn't make you blind if you don't want to be seen, you don't have to hide if this doesn't make you free, it doesn't mean you're tied if this doesn't take you down, it doesn't mean you're high If this doesn't make you smile, you don't have to cry If this isn't making sense, that doesn't make it lies had a taste so sour had to think of something sweet you made me disappear/this time I'm sure you will know that I am here my place was beneath you/but now I'm above And, My Personal Favorite lines: It's gonna be too dark to sleep again they say I'm a searchlight soul, but I can't see it in the night give me little bits of more than I can take ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:58:00 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: Has chris lost the ability to hit the high notes? To: somms@MIT.EDU I noticed that chris's voice was a little strained in the Fobd video, but it still sounded good. I think that if he cannot hit the high notes that he will still be able to sing on a acoustic set such as "Like Suicide" and "Mind Riot" but he will probably stay on the low end of his voice. So seasons will be out of the question. But it's probably hard for Chris's throat to heal in a rainy climate like seattles. Especially during the winter months When "fobd" was recorded live. I used to live 2 hours away in orchards washington so I Know the weather pretty well. By the way did anyone hear him on the "self pollution" radio broadcast. That could be a good judge of weather his voice is permanantly damaged. Clown With Bazooka ****************************************************************************** ......Shower in the dark day Clean Sparks Diving Down Cool in the water way Where the Baptized Drown Naked in the Cold Sun Breathing Life like Fire Thought I Was The Only One But That Was Just a Lie...... -Soundgarden ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:06:13 -0400 From: ThisRulz@aol.com To: kam2@axe.humboldt.edu Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: What makes a fan. i'm not talking about every band you listen to, just your most favorite bands. so before you get that stick in your butt up further let me explain. i like alot of bands, but i have very few bands that i would shoot myself if they broke up, i'm talking about absolutely my favorite bands and i think that if they belch on an album i'd buy it. there are fans and then everybody is a "True" fan to at least one band. you can disagree, but that's my opinion. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:07:18 -0400 From: LEM89@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: a film called Hype three questions : 1. Drums4ever: what do you mean you met Chris in a bar and "he wouldn't admit it" ?? You mean he pretended not to be HIM??? And what exactly WAS he drinking? WHy did this make you realize it was him?? 2. I read that there was a movie called Hype about the Grunge phenom from the point of view of the bands - anybody else ever hear of it? Where can I get it?? 3. How did you know that SG was doing this photoshoot in Gas Works park? Did you know about it before or only hear about it later? Why didn't you tell me about it so I could go WATCH?? (drool, drool) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:09:30 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re:Chris's Themes To: somms@MIT.EDU Here is my grand list of themes in the lyrics of Chris Cornell, which I have been working on for some time. Thanks to people on the SOMMS mailing list for adding to this, especially Clown with Bazooka, for his new themes. Please send in your additions!! CATHOLIC/RELIGIOUS STUFF Jesus Christ Pose Holy water's rusting me I'm going to the holy land don't give me your savior Wooden Jesus I'll cut you in on 20% of my future sin Jesus tries to crack a smile, beneath another shovel load Harvest the souls Say Hello To Heaven In my youth I pray to keep Jesus I can't see my feet pray if you want to pray/if you like to kneel TEARS/RAIN/WATER And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore I'll take the river down to still water pouring down wind bathed in persperation drowned my enemies holy water is rusting me the wreck is going down, get out before you drown damn the water if it's life you want to drink Damn the river burn the wine Swallowing rivers belongs to the sea Cool in the water way where the baptized drown Drown my fear You've got the juice to fill my cup And would it pay you more to walk on water I was crying from my eye teeth Tears of the feeble cry if you want to cry, if it helps you see fallin' like rain, into her schemes Drown me in you And we fall like a tear falling to the ground Soundgarden is a tear in an eye dreaming won't you come and wash away the rain where the river's high And you can't grow feathers in the rain DOGS and ride a pack of dogs when the dogs are looking for their bones someone let the dogs out/they'll show you where the truth is the grass is always greener where the dogs are shedding You call me a dog SNAKES far too long for snakes Get On the Snake Lies the snake GOLD While the rest of you harvest the gold You threw me out cause I went digging for gold safe outside my gilded cage SLAVES/IMPRISONMENT I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run Slaves and Bulldozers And you swear to me, you don't want to be my slave Hands of the slave Slaves are all working four-walled world safe outside my gilden cage CONTRADICTIONS I'm feeling that I'm sober, even though I'm drinking Everything I've held is what I've freed Everything I gave is what I need I got up feeling so down it wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich, than to bury you poor would you take it wrong, or would you make it right whomsoever i've cured, I've sickened now whomsoever I've cradled, I've put you down if this isn't what you see, it doesn't make you blind if you don't want to be seen, you don't have to hide if this doesn't make you free, it doesn't mean you're tied if this doesn't take you down, it doesn't mean you're high If this doesn't make you smile, you don't have to cry If this isn't making sense, that doesn't make it lies had a taste so sour had to think of something sweet you made me disappear/this time I'm sure you will know that I am here my place was beneath you/but now I'm above And, My Personal Favorite lines: It's gonna be too dark to sleep again they say I'm a searchlight soul, but I can't see it in the night give me little bits of more than I can take A few more Tears/Rain/Water "Cool In the water way where the baptized drown" ------------------------------ To: somms@MIT.EDU From: clavis@psych.ualberta.ca (Carrie Lavis) Subject: Howdy from Canada/album news Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:04:02 -0600 Hello All! I've been checking out the digest for a couple of weeks but didn't have much to post til now. Don't know if anybody else out there is from Canada, but I was watching Muchmusic last nite (our version of MTV only WAY better) & they said that SG will be releasing a new disc in Oct. The title is Alive in the Superunknown (my guess is it's a live disc then). Apparently, there are segments from the new disc on the new Windows 95 demo stuff. I haven't checked out any of the Windows 95 stuff (not being terribly computer literate, I don't have a clue what it's all about), but maybe someone out there knows something. Anyway, Muchmusic tends to be a pretty reliable source, and I thought you all might be interested. Ciao, Carrie. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 19:39:33 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) Howdy from Canada/album news To: somms@MIT.EDU Hello All! I've been checking out the digest for a couple of weeks but didn't have much to post til now. Don't know if anybody else out there is from Canada, but I was watching Muchmusic last nite (our version of MTV only WAY better) & they said that SG will be releasing a new disc in Oct. The title is Alive in the Superunknown (my guess is it's a live disc then). Apparently, there are segments from the new disc on the new Windows 95 demo stuff. I haven't checked out any of the Windows 95 stuff (not being terribly computer literate, I don't have a clue what it's all about), but maybe someone out there knows something. Anyway, Muchmusic tends to be a pretty reliable source, and I thought you all might be interested. Ciao, Carrie THANK GOD, MORE SOUNDGARDEN. AT LONG LAST MORE SOUNDGARDEN. Clown With Bazooka ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:08:37 +0100 From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: explain yourself :) > It's a sorry day indeed when someone says they like vitalogy more than > ten. Ten was back in the days when PJ had the spark that made them a > great band. Vitalogy represents a complete departure from the sound that > made me, for one, listen to them. Well, not everyone can be like Ramones and play the exact same music for 20+ years. Ten was their first effort, their shot at fame and fortune, and sure as hell they didn't want to gamble with it. So they made it 'by the book'. Vs. established them even further, so on Vitalogy they felt free enough to experiment and try out some new things. Another thing you have to take into acocunt is that during the recording of Vitalogy Mike McCready (lead guitar) was going thorugh a very rough period (sunstance abuse), so he hardy played anything on the album. That pretty much explains the lack of scorching guitar solos and 'raw power' that shocked me at first hearing of Vitalogy. Mike himself told the he is now, in hindsight, surprised that they didn't kick him out of the band. Anyway, now he's back in top-form (Mad Season proves it), so you can expect some powerful music coming our way in the future... > As for the Dave debacle, that doesn't end till they replace Jack > Irons with someone respectable. Well, (as it was debated before) I think Jack is pretty capable of handling the sticks... Refernce: Throw your hatred down (Mirror Ball/NY & PJ). ObSGC: Where can I find a comprehensive list of SG songs (including non-ablum, b-sides, soundtrack songs and stuff like that)? p.s. I've seen my share of idiots not knowing how to get off the various lists I subscribed to (somewhere around 8), but this one takes the cake! I really don't get it, what's with them, 3 in 5 messages are 'unsub me'? - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:33:25 -0400 To: clavis@psych.ualberta.ca (Carrie Lavis) Subject: Re: Howdy from Canada/album news Cc: somms@MIT.EDU On Aug 23, 2:04pm, Carrie Lavis wrote: > Subject: Howdy from Canada/album news > Hello All! > I've been checking out the digest for a couple of weeks but didn't have much > to post til now. Don't know if anybody else out there is from Canada, but I > was watching Muchmusic last nite (our version of MTV only WAY better) & they > said that SG will be releasing a new disc in Oct. The title is Alive in the > Superunknown (my guess is it's a live disc then). Apparently, there are > segments from the new disc on the new Windows 95 demo stuff. I haven't > checked out any of the Windows 95 stuff (not being terribly computer > literate, I don't have a clue what it's all about), but maybe someone out > there knows something. Anyway, Muchmusic tends to be a pretty reliable > source, and I thought you all might be interested. > Ciao, Carrie. > >-- End of excerpt from Carrie Lavis if it is a live album, it could be a double CD set. - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "This is not an exit" -Anthrax "I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL "I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:42:42 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: LITTLE JOE Cc: The Garden Subject: Re: explain yourself :) On Tue, 22 Aug 1995, LITTLE JOE wrote: > It's a sorry day indeed when someone says they like vitalogy more than > ten. Ten was back in the days when PJ had the spark that made them a > great band. Vitalogy represents a complete departure from the sound that > made me, for one, listen to them. I think that you got me wrong. I would take certain songs over other certain songs. and I wouldn't take vitalogy over ten. I would, however, take versus over ten. > that's only one part of the music. Pearl Jam seem to have lost a lot of > the raw energy they used to put into their music, and no matter how well > written the songs may be, there needs to be something in the delivery > before you make good music. This is something that Ten and Versus had, > but Vitalogy certainly does not. if you are looking for raw energy, how is it that you can overlook whippin' and corduroy? > The downswing to me starts with Vitalogy not Versus. To counter your > point on the Vitalogy songs, don't you think: Spin the Black Circle, > Satan's Bed, Stupid Mop, Bugs, Pry To, Aye Davanita and > Last Exit are comparitively bad? Obviously there are good songs on the yeah, most of those songs wouldn't make it onto a best of pearl jam album (perish the thought that there would be some sort of demtel offer where they do the "best of the grunge years" album offer). with, of course, a free set of steak knives :) I would like to say, though, that the original version of satan's bed was a damn fine song (as we both know). if they would have left it alone, instead of making that ymca version, then I would have liked it a lot more. > Everybody knows Ticketmaster are somewhat crooked, but all PJ really > achieved was to deprive a lot of their fans of the chance of seeing them > live, and give them the hassles of trying to get refunds for all the > tickets they had already bought. Anyway in the end they just crept back into by all reports, pearl jam have named new dates for all the ones they missed. can anyone confirm? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:49:54 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: Re: AIC Record/News from Layne (fwd) this is something from the aic list that I thought some of you might be interested in. it's on alice in chains, so sorry if you didn't want to know about it :) it's from layne's landlord. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 21:10:16 -0700 To: "Khadejah J. Dein" Subject: Re: AIC Record I actually talked to Layne for awhile last night, and asked him some questions. He has a one week extension on getting the album done, since they want him to do one more song. So it should be in the can by the end of this week. I asked him if he thought it could still get out by the "advertised release date" of October, and he said he thought it could. We'll see what he knows, I guess. I also asked him about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame show. Based on his answer, I wouldn't hold your breath about AIC being there. They are having some sort of dispute with the promoters about what their role will be. Originally they wanted a title song, but now, since AIC won't be inducted into the hall of fame this year, they want them to find someone else to jam with. It sounds confusing to me, and Layne didn't seem to confident that it would get worked out. I know that Jerry is supposed to play in the Hendrix thing at Bumbershoot on Monday, so that would mean a quick trip to Cleveland. We'll see. Tomorrow is Layne's birthday, in case you didn't know. I think he'll be 28. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:55:49 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: JUNKGUNF@aol.com Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Has chris lost the ability to hit the high notes? On Tue, 22 Aug 1995 JUNKGUNF@aol.com wrote: > dont know if anyone else has noticed...but chris's voice is different since > he had that throat problem last year. Listen to his live voice from the > March 94 european tours...then compare that to his voice in the FoBD video > and the Self Pollution sessions. He seems to be forcing his singing. (NOTE: I thought that he did an exemplary job on self pollution, especially since it was a plug in and play sort of situation. I thought that kyle petty was possibly better than the recorded version. and as little joe has said, they (inc. chris and his voice) really kick some ass on no attention. and there weren't any effects to hide behind either. but then again, who knows until the next record comes out? so, will all our fears turn out to be lies? :) justin ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:18:11 EDT From: RCFT31C@prodigy.com (MR ANTONIO G SABAL JR) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Internet message Thanks for the response. I didn't expect it so soon. The first thing that I want to know is about any future projects that Soundgarden is currently working on. If I'm not mistaken, I do believe that the band will be performing at the Redding festival later this year. If anyone can send me any details about it or on any upcoming releases and/or performances. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. Thanks. tony rcft31c@prodigy.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:09:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Rollason Subject: Truly CD for sale/trade To: Soundgarden mailing list Hi all, I mentioned Hiro's new band Truly and their new album "Fast Stories... From Kid Coma" a while back. I said that the album "might" grow on me. Well, it hasn't. If anyone wants it, contact me. I guess I'd want $12, postage included (it's like new)... I could also knock some off the price if you've got b-sides (I have very few), especially acoustic demos. Jeff Rollason d010889c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 24] ***************************************