From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 11 Aug 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 01:38:38 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 11 Aug 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: All Star Line Up All Star Line Up CONT. Re: so what's up with movies ... Movie Tunes Re: so what's up with movies ... chris' vocals Re: not to the list Re: so what's up with movies ... Re: chris' vocals ** New Soundgarden (fwd) Drummers themes, movies, songs Re: themes, movies, songs soundgarden movie music Desert albums re:themes -------------dogs SPEAKING OF SINGLES New Soundgarden Re: Where's Chris? fav bands, movies, soundtracks... Re:SFW Finger Movie Pigeonhed or Wellwater Conspiracy? Mad Season ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ADAMSON RICHARD J Subject: All Star Line Up To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 11:30:59 +1000 (EST) Interesting Concept! I shall try to get THE killer band. On Drums: Matt Cameron (feel, balls, and great non4/4 playing) Bass: Darryl Jones (Jazz, funk and as played with just about everyone eg Sting, Peter Gabriel, Daniel Lanois) Guitar: The combination of Dave Navarro (Jane's Addiction) and Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins) excites me but we can only guess whether the two egos would fit on stage! Keys: Steve Winwood (Yes, he's a dag but kicks arse on the Hammond) Vocals: Its either Chris for power and range or Bono for silk and emotion Political Advisors: Rage Against the Machine. Satrical Humor: TISM Lyrics: ...There are so many greats! Don't know. Dress Sense: Kato from Urge Overkill. I think that's enough for the moment. SEE YA, RICH. ------------------------------ From: ADAMSON RICHARD J Subject: All Star Line Up CONT. To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:32:10 +1000 (EST) On second thoughts I have decided that Flea (Chili Peppers) may be a better choice although John Paul Jones (Led Zep) wouldn't be bad either. In addition I'd have: Punk Ethics: Ian McKaye (Fugazi) Sampling: The dude from the Young Gods Confrontational Performance: GG Allen Album Producer: Malcolm Burn Sex Appeal: Cindy Crawford (I believe she plays a mean Tamborine) Lyrics: A difficult one but my fave would have to be Steve Kilby (The Church) Thanx for Reading, RICH. P.S. Did anyone catch YOU AM I playing with SG? As a long time Aus fan I am interested to know how they went down in the US. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:00:43 -0400 From: UnknMan@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: so what's up with movies ... CC was in the part where Dillion put the stereo in Ms. Fonda's car... he was standing there jamming along with car as is exploded into electrical failure (c: He also appeared w. the band on stage performing "Birth Ritual". Ray (UnknownMan) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 21:35:19 -0700 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: nathan@goodnet.com (Nathan Fuller) Subject: Movie Tunes >>I can think of Pacific Heights, Waynes World, and Singles, of course > >Waynes World? Which song? Add SFW & Basketball Diaries > Well, it was TOTD's "All Night Thing", but close enough. I'm not sure which song was in PH, maybe I'm dreaming. But I think I remember an SG video blairing on the TV while someone was getting killed, or at least brutally wounded. NATHAN@GOODNET.COM :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Everywhere is in walking distance if you have the time" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 14:55:27 +1000 (EST) From: Alex Lyberopoulos To: ClownWithBazooka Cc: UnknMan@aol.com, somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: so what's up with movies ... It has been a long time since i saw the movie but i think the scene with Chris is when Dillon's character installs a new car stereo in his girlfriends' car and turns it on full blast. Chris is a passer by and stops and looks. I don't think he has any lines. PS what about Tad's cameo, that was excellent. On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > > Unk, > I saw the movie singles to, where exactly does cornell have a scene in the > movie? Besides the fact that Matt Dillon Completely stole his look. > Clownwithbazooka > > > > > ****************************************************************************** > > ......Shower in the dark day > Clean Sparks Diving Down > Cool in the water way > Where the Baptized Drown > Naked in the Cold Sun > Breathing Life like Fire > Thought I Was The Only One > But That Was Just a Lie...... -Soundgarden > ******************************************************************************* > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:03:58 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: chris' vocals On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, seth wrote: > > > _Ultramega OK_ is, for me, the best SG album by far. It would > definitely be my desert island disc. On no other album does Chris > display the vocal prowess he shows on this one; I could listen to > "Beyond the Wheel" again and again and never tire of it. If you buy > would you really put the singing from ultramega ok up against the vocals from superunknown, seth? I guess from the above that you would. but imho, chris' efforts on tracks such as fourth of july, limo wreck, fell on black days and the day I tried to live far surpass anything from ultramega. I also think that his voice might be even better on the next album, if blind dogs and kyle petty are anything to go by. just let me reiterate the point of fourth of july for one second. listen closely to the mingling of the two separate vocal tracks. especially the timing and cadence changes between the two. I can just focus on those lyrics repeatedly for hours! have another listen, and tell me what you think. justin ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:05:45 +1000 (EST) From: Alex Lyberopoulos To: seth Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: not to the list On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, seth wrote: > > > other soundgarden albums worth checking out, are Ultramega Ok and > > Screaming life/fopp and any of the bootlegs rated A or -A in Seth's > > Bootleg archive. Screaming Life is kinda raw, But Ultramega is pretty > > decent. Chris shows that great songwriting ability more lyrics than music > > on Screaming But I think they were merely polishing they're playing skill > > s > > because they're old stuff sounds incredible live. > > _Ultramega OK_ is, for me, the best SG album by far. It would > definitely be my desert island disc. On no other album does Chris > display the vocal prowess he shows on this one; I could listen to > "Beyond the Wheel" again and again and never tire of it. If you buy > just one more disc before you die, make sure it's _Ultramega OK_. > > [side note: I didn't compile the bootleg discography; in fact, I've > never heard virtually all of the albums listed, though I saw almost > all of them for sale just today. The boot discog was compiled by > Steve Russell, Jr.] > > seth > You 're kidding right, Chris sings twice as good now then in the past, especially the terrible wailing on UltramegaOK. In my opinion UltramegaOK is Soundgarden's worst album by far, (although it's still pretty good :) and as for displaying vocal prowess the recent live version of Beyond the Wheel shits all over the recorded version. The whole Superunknown album is sang perfectly, screaming the loudest doesn't always have the best impact. For loud incredible screaming Slaves and Bulldozers is great or Cold Bitch. Well okay perhaps i was a little harsh, this is just my opinion. If you are more into punk you might like UltramegaOK better, I don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:06:43 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: Re: so what's up with movies ... On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Alex Lyberopoulos wrote: > It has been a long time since i saw the movie but i think the scene with > Chris is when Dillon's character installs a new car stereo in his > girlfriends' car and turns it on full blast. Chris is a passer by and > stops and looks. I don't think he has any lines. yeah, but I think that he nodded real well. > > PS what about Tad's cameo, that was excellent. > > ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ To: blind dog Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: chris' vocals Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 01:19:00 EDT From: seth > > _Ultramega OK_ is, for me, the best SG album by far. It would > > definitely be my desert island disc. On no other album does Chris > > display the vocal prowess he shows on this one; I could listen to > > "Beyond the Wheel" again and again and never tire of it. If you buy > > > would you really put the singing from ultramega ok up against > the vocals from superunknown, seth? I guess from the above that you would. > but imho, chris' efforts on tracks such as fourth of july, limo wreck, > fell on black days and the day I tried to live far surpass anything from > ultramega. I also think that his voice might be even better on the next > album, if blind dogs and kyle petty are anything to go by. okay, i just threw _superunknown_ in the cd player (wasn't enjoying foo fighters all that much anyway), and i will definitely concede that chris' voice has come a long way in terms of polish and accuracy. maybe i just feel that the newer stuff (which does put eddie vedder to shame) is too polished, and prefer a bit more of the earlier, "testicles-in-a-vise" (i didn't make that up, i read it somewhere) chris. obviously, this is just a matter of opinion, but i think in my case it has a lot to do with the fact that badmotorfinger was my first exposure to the band, and there was still quite a bit of raw, unpolished energy and screaming on that album. perhaps if superunknown had been my first sg experience, i'd think differently, and perhaps I might feel, as Alex indicates in his message, that ultramega ok is sg's worst effort, just "terrible wailing." > just let me reiterate the point of fourth of july for one > second. listen closely to the mingling of the two separate vocal > tracks. especially the timing and cadence changes between the two. I > can just focus on those lyrics repeatedly for hours! have another listen, > and tell me what you think. i agree completely; fourth of july is far and away my favorite song from superunknown. chris' voice is indeed stunning on this track. seth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:45:06 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: ** New Soundgarden (fwd) this is from a guy who I talk to on the alice in chains mailing list. it is very interesting for all of us. read on quickly. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 Aug 95 08:23:00 W From: Picard, Gregg R. SPC To: s325961 Cc: AIC Subject: ** New Soundgarden Justin Wrote the following regarding my Soundgarden post: >>are you for real? this is very good news for me. but are you >>certain? >>could you tell me more, for that matter? >>and once you have seen the show, mail me with a bit of a review. Yeah, I knew Soundgarden was playing a couple of the late summer fests, and then about two weeks ago I found out that they were playing in Offenbach Germany on the 4th of September, so me and a few friends went and got tickets...The tickets do not have the Superunknown cover on them (European concert tickets are usually about 8 inches tall, and 4 inches wide, and they have either the bands current disc cover, tour logo, or a picture of the band on them...) at any rate they have this really strange artwork on them, so I figured it was something they had cooked up for the tour, then about a week ago, I heard on European MTV Headbanger's ball that they would be releasing a new one on 7 Sept, but that's the only details I've gotten thus far...I'll be more than happy to post a review after the show... ------------------------------ From: Sam Lukowski To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:00:44 GMT+1000 Subject: Drummers Can anyone in Brisbane help me out with finding a drummer, please? I know it's not the same kind of music, but the band I am trying to start is a hardcore funk band in the styles of Infectious Grooves, Primus, FNM, RHCP. Don't get me wrong here guys, I still play SG a hell of a lot, but in Brisbane, another style of music is coming....FUNK, and it's a mighty cool style too. Please drop me a line if you can help out. Thanks Sam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 02:25:14 -0400 From: LEM89@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: themes, movies, songs Has anyone seen the movie "KIDS" yet? I found that very powerful & disturbing. My favorite movie: Black Robe (about the destructive & sometimes beautiful mix of European/Native American Indian culture in 17th century Canada.... it is so beautiful to watch, go out and rent it immediately if you haven't seen it yet. Not mainstream crap. A real intellectual movie) Yay! Excellent, thanks for responding to my quest for themes. Slaves and imprisonment is a good one, I hadn't thought of that. But dogs was going to be my next post - two other people noticed it. Did you know that Chris has a lot of dogs? Here's a more obscure one: Heart Attacks "And I'm sparking like a heart attack (Reach Down) I thought there was another one somewhere on Superunknown, but now I can't find it. Am I crazy? more tears/rain: "Tears of the feeble... "Cry if you want to cry, if it helps you see.. "fallin' like rain, into her schemes "While the rest of you harvest the gold "You threw me out cause I went digging for gold "safe outside my gilded cage (like suicide) "four-walled world about the only thing that Chris sings that isn't abstract & poetic is, "I've got the words to come together" I think that is so funny, cause he really does! (the Beatle's cover) It really sticks out as a personal line. I really enjoyed that song "no attention" as I heard it on Self-Pollution radio. I have it on tape. It is one where Chris starts out singing in a sonorous voice, and then escalates to a scream - I like that. It is top notch musically. A soundgarden song is blaring during the one Brad Pitt scene in "true romance" I thought that was a great coincidence, cause I was really into Brad Pitt at the time I rented the movie. Where is Tad's cameo in "Singles"? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:55:30 +1000 (EST) From: Alex Lyberopoulos To: LEM89@aol.com Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: themes, movies, songs Maybe i am wrong (I am not really a Tad fan) but didn't he pick up the phone when one of the girls rang a wrong number and started talking dirty thinking she was talking to her boyfriend? On Thu, 10 Aug 1995 LEM89@aol.com wrote: > Has anyone seen the movie "KIDS" yet? I found that very powerful & > disturbing. > > My favorite movie: Black Robe (about the destructive & sometimes beautiful > mix of > European/Native American Indian culture in 17th century Canada.... it is so > beautiful to watch, go > out and rent it immediately if you haven't seen it yet. Not mainstream crap. > A real intellectual > movie) > > Yay! Excellent, thanks for responding to my quest for themes. Slaves and > imprisonment is a > good one, I hadn't thought of that. But dogs was going to be my next post - > two other people > noticed it. Did you know that Chris has a lot of dogs? > > Here's a more obscure one: Heart Attacks > "And I'm sparking like a heart attack (Reach Down) I thought there was > another one somewhere > on Superunknown, but now I can't find it. Am I crazy? > > more tears/rain: > > "Tears of the feeble... > "Cry if you want to cry, if it helps you see.. > "fallin' like rain, into her schemes > > > "While the rest of you harvest the gold > "You threw me out cause I went digging for gold > "safe outside my gilded cage (like suicide) > "four-walled world > > about the only thing that Chris sings that isn't abstract & poetic is, "I've > got the words to come > together" I think that is so funny, cause he really does! (the Beatle's > cover) It really sticks out as > a personal line. > > I really enjoyed that song "no attention" as I heard it on Self-Pollution > radio. I have it on tape. It > is one where Chris starts out singing in a sonorous voice, and then escalates > to a scream - I like > that. It is top notch musically. > > A soundgarden song is blaring during the one Brad Pitt scene in "true > romance" I thought that > was a great coincidence, cause I was really into Brad Pitt at the time I > rented the movie. > > Where is Tad's cameo in "Singles"? > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:09:50 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: soundgarden movie music outshined is on the true romance soundtrack blind dogs is on the basketball diaries soundtrack ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 14:19:08 +0200 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: eteman@knoware.nl (Peter Vermeulen) Subject: Desert albums My desert albums: Offpring- S.M.A.S.H. Green day- Dookie. Dog eat Dog- All boro kings. Peter Vermeulen I'm not a trendy asshole, i do what i want, i do what i feel like I'm not a trendy asshole, i don't give a fuck, or it's good enough for you. Cause i'm alive. ( Offpring-smash ) Peter Vermeulen e-mail: peteman@knoware.nl adres: Tuindersweg 3a woonplaats: Leermens ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:41:35 -0400 From: ThisRulz@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: re:themes -------------dogs rusty cage And ride a pack of dogs when the dogs are looking for their bones. outshined someone let the dogs out where the dogs are shedding ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:44:39 -0400 From: ThisRulz@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: SPEAKING OF SINGLES did you guys know that chris cornell tried out for the part of cliff? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 11:47:38 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: New Soundgarden To: Somms@MIT.EDU this is from a guy who I talk to on the alice in chains mailing list. it is very interesting for all of us. read on quickly. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- Justin Wrote the following regarding my Soundgarden post: >>are you for real? this is very good news for me. but are you >>certain? >>could you tell me more, for that matter? >>and once you have seen the show, mail me with a bit of a review. Yeah, I knew Soundgarden was playing a couple of the late summer fests, and then about two weeks ago I found out that they were playing in Offenbach Germany on the 4th of September, so me and a few friends went and got tickets...The tickets do not have the Superunknown cover on them (European concert tickets are usually about 8 inches tall, and 4 inches wide, and they have either the bands current disc cover, tour logo, or a picture of the band on them...) at any rate they have this really strange artwork on them, so I figured it was something they had cooked up for the tour, then about a week ago, I heard on European MTV Headbanger's ball that they would be releasing a new one on 7 Sept, but that's the only details I've gotten thus far...I'll be more than happy to post a review after the show... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! This is the best news I have heard all summer, Now if Rage comes out with a new one I'll be in heaven. One Happy Bazooka Toting Clown ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 11:50:09 -0400 From: Yrpupil@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Where's Chris? To Clown with Bazooka In the movie "Singles", Chris is in the scene in which Cliff (Matt Dillon's character) blows out the windows of his girlfriend's car after he installs a new stereo for her.His big acting debut, he gets to nod his head to the sounds of Tad's "Jinx". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:10:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Allan Ferrer To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: fav bands, movies, soundtracks... fav bands: sg, pj, nirvana, nin, mlb fav movies: the crow(I left the theater with one thought.. "Wow"), resevoir dogs, pulp fiction fav soundtracks: singles, the crow fav color: black hmm.. maybe thats far enough... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 14:03:39 -0400 From: Minerva657@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re:SFW yes allan, it does mean "so fucking what"----danielle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:30:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Kelly M Allen Subject: Finger Movie To: somms@MIT.EDU I know it's been a while, but . . . Has anyone seen SFW? I haven't even had access to it here in "Shitsburgh". Did it suck or something???? Krazed Kel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:10:18 -0700 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: nathan@goodnet.com (Nathan Fuller) Subject: Pigeonhed or Wellwater Conspiracy? Could someone fill me in on these bands? Are they truly SG sideprojects? NATHAN@GOODNET.COM :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Everywhere is in walking distance if you have the time" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:54:20 +1000 (EST) From: "JAMES J. LEUTTON" To: Somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Mad Season Could someone out there in big wide net world please tell me some information about mad season. I know that its Mike from PJ, with a few of the AIC guys, and they've done a few songs together, but are there any new developments with these guys. thanks, Jo. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 11] ***************************************